locky801 wrote:Can we get back on the topic, if you want an umpires discussion make a new topic
Some would argue junior football has become all about umpires
by Look Good In Leather » Wed May 28, 2014 11:28 pm
locky801 wrote:Can we get back on the topic, if you want an umpires discussion make a new topic
by ezydoesitbigfella » Thu May 29, 2014 12:07 am
Look Good In Leather wrote:locky801 wrote:Can we get back on the topic, if you want an umpires discussion make a new topic
Some would argue junior football has become all about umpires
by Lightning McQueen » Thu May 29, 2014 11:20 am
Pag wrote:I've seen you do a couple of SAWFL games this year mate, loved the way you went about it.Lightning McQueen wrote:ezydoesitbigfella wrote:Lightning McQueen wrote: I wouldn't umpire in the SAAFL no matter what they paid. I do NEMJFA, SAWFL and APFL but whenever I umpire with ammo umpires I'm left bewildered.
Bewildered? How?
One of the "head" umpires of the SAAFL was observing a women's game that I was umpiring, I talk a lot while I'm umpiring, it lets the players know what I'm thinking and how I see things.
The observer came over to me at quarter time and said "You can't tell the players to knock the ball out of the packs, it's seen as onfield coaching, opposing coaches don't like it".
At the end of the game I went to shake the other umpires hand and said "well done" He pulled his hand away and said "You can't shake my hand out here in front of everyone, we'll shake hands in the rooms".
I just said "well ##$% ya then, if you're that pedantic"
He was an ammo's umpire too.
I like the country feel and you get less idiots rocking up as they tend not to want to waste their $6 by getting booted out whereas in the city you get random dickheads rock up to a game with a full esky, get maggoted and find it fun to throw as much shit at the umpire as they can, they tend to not have any real alliance with either club too.
It has nothing to do with any clubs.
I've had heaps of umpires in my time give us a 'knock it out' when the ball is on the bottom of a pack. I'll never listen, I'd keep it in, but to say it's onfield coaching is just crap.
I remember the best umpire I ever had as a junior was Doug Tallboy, still umpring in the APFL, simply because he was always talking to the players.
by Pag » Thu May 29, 2014 11:50 am
I worked with and under Doug in the CDJFL as well, while I was at Uni to make some extra cash. He was a great coach for younger umpires as well.Lightning McQueen wrote:Pag wrote:I've seen you do a couple of SAWFL games this year mate, loved the way you went about it.Lightning McQueen wrote:ezydoesitbigfella wrote:Bewildered? How?
One of the "head" umpires of the SAAFL was observing a women's game that I was umpiring, I talk a lot while I'm umpiring, it lets the players know what I'm thinking and how I see things.
The observer came over to me at quarter time and said "You can't tell the players to knock the ball out of the packs, it's seen as onfield coaching, opposing coaches don't like it".
At the end of the game I went to shake the other umpires hand and said "well done" He pulled his hand away and said "You can't shake my hand out here in front of everyone, we'll shake hands in the rooms".
I just said "well ##$% ya then, if you're that pedantic"
He was an ammo's umpire too.
I like the country feel and you get less idiots rocking up as they tend not to want to waste their $6 by getting booted out whereas in the city you get random dickheads rock up to a game with a full esky, get maggoted and find it fun to throw as much shit at the umpire as they can, they tend to not have any real alliance with either club too.
It has nothing to do with any clubs.
I've had heaps of umpires in my time give us a 'knock it out' when the ball is on the bottom of a pack. I'll never listen, I'd keep it in, but to say it's onfield coaching is just crap.
I remember the best umpire I ever had as a junior was Doug Tallboy, still umpring in the APFL, simply because he was always talking to the players.
Should've come and said "hi".
I agree, Dougy is the best umpire I've seen and it's a pleasure umpiring with him, he is a great teacher as well, I've learnt so many little things from him that make huge differences.
by Lightning McQueen » Thu May 29, 2014 12:08 pm
Pag wrote:]I worked with and under Doug in the CDJFL as well, while I was at Uni to make some extra cash. He was a great coach for younger umpires as well.
I really enjoyed my time umpiring but injuries from my own footy meant I was barely able to walk on a Sunday, let alone chase around Under 12s, 13s or 14s.
by Look Good In Leather » Thu May 29, 2014 12:33 pm
ezydoesitbigfella wrote:Look Good In Leather wrote:locky801 wrote:Can we get back on the topic, if you want an umpires discussion make a new topic
Some would argue junior football has become all about umpires
No.....only you. Move on.
Topic is Junior Football.
by Mr Beefy » Thu May 29, 2014 12:44 pm
by Robb_Stark » Thu May 29, 2014 12:45 pm
Mr Beefy wrote:Junior football to me is about getting a decent breakfast on a Sunday morning and checking out the MILFs, oh, and I'll watch my lad play and/or umpire.
by Lightning McQueen » Thu May 29, 2014 1:03 pm
Mr Beefy wrote:Junior football to me is about getting a decent breakfast on a Sunday morning and checking out the MILFs, oh, and I'll watch my lad play and/or umpire.
by Mr Beefy » Thu May 29, 2014 1:28 pm
Lightning McQueen wrote:Mr Beefy wrote:Junior football to me is about getting a decent breakfast on a Sunday morning and checking out the MILFs, oh, and I'll watch my lad play and/or umpire.
I only get to umpire the older kids .
by ezydoesitbigfella » Thu May 29, 2014 8:50 pm
Look Good In Leather wrote:
No, any discussion about junior football these days seems to end up about umpires and according to a number of posters here it is expected of clubs to repeatedly tell spectators that "umpires are human".
It's all become a bit of a joke, umpires are starting to be treated like they are bigger than the game.
by locky801 » Thu May 29, 2014 9:48 pm
by bulldogs » Thu May 29, 2014 11:47 pm
by jo172 » Fri May 30, 2014 8:58 am
locky801 wrote:Mercy rule not working in Junior footy, well not in the NEMJFA at the moment, huge results over the weekend with most U15/U16 games decided by over 10 goals, think from memory from U11 to U16 games was about 40 out of 59 games that had the mercy rule bought into play. May as well say goodbye to it, the system is not working and to be honest never has
Also very disappointing to hear that some clubs are not playing by the new rules and having sides even up. Heard of a few on the weekend that played 18 against 14 or 15, not on, pity those in charge did not intervene as they did at the u14 game i was at when we had to even up due to an injury, although i dont agree they are the rules and you abide by them
by Sheik Yerbouti » Fri May 30, 2014 4:25 pm
jo172 wrote:locky801 wrote:Mercy rule not working in Junior footy, well not in the NEMJFA at the moment, huge results over the weekend with most U15/U16 games decided by over 10 goals, think from memory from U11 to U16 games was about 40 out of 59 games that had the mercy rule bought into play. May as well say goodbye to it, the system is not working and to be honest never has
Also very disappointing to hear that some clubs are not playing by the new rules and having sides even up. Heard of a few on the weekend that played 18 against 14 or 15, not on, pity those in charge did not intervene as they did at the u14 game i was at when we had to even up due to an injury, although i dont agree they are the rules and you abide by them
NEMJFA not re-grading after 3/4 rounds like they have in past seasons is a rather curious decision to me.
There are some teams running around White Grades that no one has got within 25 goals of over the first four rounds. Ditto other teams running around red divisions who have barely scored a goal. I accept that there's no perfect solution and that one team is always going to win the flag and one team is always going to come last but the abandonment of a system that in my opinion was working is farcical.
by jo172 » Fri May 30, 2014 4:29 pm
Sheik Yerbouti wrote:jo172 wrote:locky801 wrote:Mercy rule not working in Junior footy, well not in the NEMJFA at the moment, huge results over the weekend with most U15/U16 games decided by over 10 goals, think from memory from U11 to U16 games was about 40 out of 59 games that had the mercy rule bought into play. May as well say goodbye to it, the system is not working and to be honest never has
Also very disappointing to hear that some clubs are not playing by the new rules and having sides even up. Heard of a few on the weekend that played 18 against 14 or 15, not on, pity those in charge did not intervene as they did at the u14 game i was at when we had to even up due to an injury, although i dont agree they are the rules and you abide by them
NEMJFA not re-grading after 3/4 rounds like they have in past seasons is a rather curious decision to me.
There are some teams running around White Grades that no one has got within 25 goals of over the first four rounds. Ditto other teams running around red divisions who have barely scored a goal. I accept that there's no perfect solution and that one team is always going to win the flag and one team is always going to come last but the abandonment of a system that in my opinion was working is farcical.
Eastern Park in the 16's down to white div, Salisbury North moved their 16's to 15's with a few permits.
by Sheik Yerbouti » Fri May 30, 2014 6:03 pm
by beeroclock » Fri May 30, 2014 6:10 pm
jo172 wrote:Sheik Yerbouti wrote:jo172 wrote:locky801 wrote:Mercy rule not working in Junior footy, well not in the NEMJFA at the moment, huge results over the weekend with most U15/U16 games decided by over 10 goals, think from memory from U11 to U16 games was about 40 out of 59 games that had the mercy rule bought into play. May as well say goodbye to it, the system is not working and to be honest never has
Also very disappointing to hear that some clubs are not playing by the new rules and having sides even up. Heard of a few on the weekend that played 18 against 14 or 15, not on, pity those in charge did not intervene as they did at the u14 game i was at when we had to even up due to an injury, although i dont agree they are the rules and you abide by them
NEMJFA not re-grading after 3/4 rounds like they have in past seasons is a rather curious decision to me.
There are some teams running around White Grades that no one has got within 25 goals of over the first four rounds. Ditto other teams running around red divisions who have barely scored a goal. I accept that there's no perfect solution and that one team is always going to win the flag and one team is always going to come last but the abandonment of a system that in my opinion was working is farcical.
Eastern Park in the 16's down to white div, Salisbury North moved their 16's to 15's with a few permits.
I'd be thrilled to stand corrected, but is this across the board or a special allowance?
I should add, I observe many divisions, but the only one I'm familiar with is U14 Whites. In That Grade Hectorville is better than the second place side by 20 goals (but admittedly lost a trial match to the top Red team by 30 goals). Probably goes to show the effect of losing the 'Blue Grade' from that age group.
by Red Rocket » Sat May 31, 2014 11:07 am
by Bulls forever » Sat May 31, 2014 11:44 am
locky801 wrote:Mercy rule not working in Junior footy, well not in the NEMJFA at the moment, huge results over the weekend with most U15/U16 games decided by over 10 goals, think from memory from U11 to U16 games was about 40 out of 59 games that had the mercy rule bought into play. May as well say goodbye to it, the system is not working and to be honest never has
Also very disappointing to hear that some clubs are not playing by the new rules and having sides even up. Heard of a few on the weekend that played 18 against 14 or 15, not on, pity those in charge did not intervene as they did at the u14 game i was at when we had to even up due to an injury, although i dont agree they are the rules and you abide by them
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