by Booney » Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:28 am
by bennymacca » Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:30 am
Dogwatcher wrote:Exactly. So...I wonder how their opponents will feel about it.
Remember, Uni already cops flak from other SAAFL clubs for not producing juniors and skiving off the rest of the competition - not my thoughts, by the way. However, I've read and heard it plenty of times over the years.
by bennymacca » Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:34 am
Dutchy wrote:bennymacca wrote:
Attendances are UP. Ignore any facts you like but they are.
By letting in people for free, a fact you ignore.
Memberships are down and they are a clubs lifeblood. Will the Crows care when a couple of clubs fold because of their entry in the next couple of years?
The SANFL are not in the position to bail any clubs out.
Writing is on the wall and the financial reporting period later in the year will be fascinating.
by heater31 » Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:36 am
bennymacca wrote:Dutchy wrote:bennymacca wrote:
Attendances are UP. Ignore any facts you like but they are.
By letting in people for free, a fact you ignore.
Memberships are down and they are a clubs lifeblood. Will the Crows care when a couple of clubs fold because of their entry in the next couple of years?
The SANFL are not in the position to bail any clubs out.
Writing is on the wall and the financial reporting period later in the year will be fascinating.
I haven't ignored that fact at all. But I also think that whether or not a centrals supporter becomes a member has little to do with the crows entering the competition.
by bennymacca » Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:41 am
heater31 wrote:bennymacca wrote:Dutchy wrote:bennymacca wrote:
Attendances are UP. Ignore any facts you like but they are.
By letting in people for free, a fact you ignore.
Memberships are down and they are a clubs lifeblood. Will the Crows care when a couple of clubs fold because of their entry in the next couple of years?
The SANFL are not in the position to bail any clubs out.
Writing is on the wall and the financial reporting period later in the year will be fascinating.
I haven't ignored that fact at all. But I also think that whether or not a centrals supporter becomes a member has little to do with the crows entering the competition.
But why would a Centrals supporter buy a membership to the CDFC when they can purchase an AFL club membership and get in for nothing?
by UK Fan » Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:41 am
bennymacca wrote:So crowds are down for a centrals west Adelaide game because of the crows and port Adelaide, and in no way related to the fact that they both suck this year.
Makes sense.
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by Pseudo » Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:43 am
bennymacca wrote: I also think that whether or not a centrals supporter becomes a member has little to do with the crows entering the competition.
by Pseudo » Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:48 am
bennymacca wrote:And I would contend that I would not have gone to the centrals crows game this year had I not had a free ticket.
by tipper » Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:55 am
Pseudo wrote:bennymacca wrote:And I would contend that I would not have gone to the centrals crows game this year had I not had a free ticket.
And there it is in the proverbial nutshell, folks. The SANFL has sacrificed attendance and membership from dyed in the wool long term fans who would put their money behind their convictions, only to attract bludging freeloaders like our compatriot beenymacca here. Let them abuse first-order statistical measures as much as they like; nobody is being fooled.
by Rising Power » Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:57 am
bennymacca wrote:Dogwatcher wrote:Exactly. So...I wonder how their opponents will feel about it.
Remember, Uni already cops flak from other SAAFL clubs for not producing juniors and skiving off the rest of the competition - not my thoughts, by the way. However, I've read and heard it plenty of times over the years.
Not sure how a uni team could possibly have juniors, but I guess that is beside the point.
In fact if the crows were going to align with anyone in the ammos it probably makes sense that it is with uni, for that reason.
How the other ammos clubs feel about it? Interested to see. Would it mean they will always play div 1?
by bennymacca » Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:00 am
Pseudo wrote:bennymacca wrote: I also think that whether or not a centrals supporter becomes a member has little to do with the crows entering the competition.
Throw a metaphorical stone on This August Forum and you could hit any number of posters who have not taken membership of their SANFL club because of the admission of garbage teams into the competition. Not little to do with it, but everything to do with it.
by heater31 » Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:00 am
bennymacca wrote:heater31 wrote:bennymacca wrote:Dutchy wrote:[quote="bennymacca"]
Attendances are UP. Ignore any facts you like but they are.
By letting in people for free, a fact you ignore.
Memberships are down and they are a clubs lifeblood. Will the Crows care when a couple of clubs fold because of their entry in the next couple of years?
The SANFL are not in the position to bail any clubs out.
Writing is on the wall and the financial reporting period later in the year will be fascinating.
I haven't ignored that fact at all. But I also think that whether or not a centrals supporter becomes a member has little to do with the crows entering the competition.
But why would a Centrals supporter buy a membership to the CDFC when they can purchase an AFL club membership and get in for nothing?
by areaman » Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:01 am
bennymacca wrote:This is a good post, and I agree with you to a certain extent. But I still don't quite know why the crows entering the comp stops you from attending the eagles presentation night.
If it does it may say more about you than the crows.
by mighty_tiger_79 » Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:03 am
bennymacca wrote:Pseudo wrote:bennymacca wrote: I also think that whether or not a centrals supporter becomes a member has little to do with the crows entering the competition.
Throw a metaphorical stone on This August Forum and you could hit any number of posters who have not taken membership of their SANFL club because of the admission of garbage teams into the competition. Not little to do with it, but everything to do with it.
As I said, you can't be that "died in the wool" if you chuck a tantrum and leave when something doesn't go your way.
by bennymacca » Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:03 am
heater31 wrote:bennymacca wrote:heater31 wrote:bennymacca wrote:[quote="Dutchy"][quote="bennymacca"]
Attendances are UP. Ignore any facts you like but they are.
By letting in people for free, a fact you ignore.
Memberships are down and they are a clubs lifeblood. Will the Crows care when a couple of clubs fold because of their entry in the next couple of years?
The SANFL are not in the position to bail any clubs out.
Writing is on the wall and the financial reporting period later in the year will be fascinating.
I haven't ignored that fact at all. But I also think that whether or not a centrals supporter becomes a member has little to do with the crows entering the competition.
But why would a Centrals supporter buy a membership to the CDFC when they can purchase an AFL club membership and get in for nothing?
by bennymacca » Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:04 am
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:bennymacca wrote:Pseudo wrote:bennymacca wrote: I also think that whether or not a centrals supporter becomes a member has little to do with the crows entering the competition.
Throw a metaphorical stone on This August Forum and you could hit any number of posters who have not taken membership of their SANFL club because of the admission of garbage teams into the competition. Not little to do with it, but everything to do with it.
As I said, you can't be that "died in the wool" if you chuck a tantrum and leave when something doesn't go your way.
chucking a tantrum you call it, others call it principles and clearly on this issue you have none
by stan » Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:07 am
Rising Power wrote:bennymacca wrote:Dogwatcher wrote:Exactly. So...I wonder how their opponents will feel about it.
Remember, Uni already cops flak from other SAAFL clubs for not producing juniors and skiving off the rest of the competition - not my thoughts, by the way. However, I've read and heard it plenty of times over the years.
Not sure how a uni team could possibly have juniors, but I guess that is beside the point.
In fact if the crows were going to align with anyone in the ammos it probably makes sense that it is with uni, for that reason.
How the other ammos clubs feel about it? Interested to see. Would it mean they will always play div 1?
Seems they've always been in Div 1 anyway, although I think they might have dipped down to Div 2 for a season a few years ago then got promoted again. I would think the normal relegation/promotion rules would apply. If they're constantly having their best players pulled up into the SANFL it couldn't be good for team stability so they may well fall down the ladder and in to Div 2. The only argument against that is they may have an influx of new, good players (more than they normally get through lower fees, central location, etc) attracted by the prospect of playing SANFL.
by stan » Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:09 am
by areaman » Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:20 am
bennymacca wrote:As I said, you can't be that "died in the wool" if you chuck a tantrum and leave when something doesn't go your way.
by bennymacca » Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:36 am
areaman wrote:bennymacca wrote:As I said, you can't be that "died in the wool" if you chuck a tantrum and leave when something doesn't go your way.
I'd be pretty concerned about anyone who blindly accepts what happens and doesn't question and evaluate what their club does.
Dyed in the wool refers to support for the team and players no matter how poorly they are performing.
Dyed in the wool does not mean blind acceptance of the bad decisions and administration of the club.
Would you still support the Crows if they decided to relocate to Darwin or Hobart?
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