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Re: End of season movements. FA, trades, bullshit etc.

Postby am Bays » Wed Oct 15, 2014 8:34 am

stan wrote:Tom Boyd is just looking for the first chance back to Victoria. That is all. Its abit soft and piss poor. I would trade him to the dogs, seriously. Enjoy that environment where even the captain wants out. Or trade him to the saints and he can get flogged each week for the next few years.


Why is it poor?

He's a talented kid who was always going to play at the AFL level. Why shouldn't he play where he want's to after he has done his mandatory two years as per the AFL rules (he's followed the rules by going to the club that drafted him for his 1st contract) . I mean if the club doesn't like them after two years they will "cut" them why can't the player "cut" the club after two years??
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Re: End of season movements. FA, trades, bullshit etc.

Postby HH3 » Wed Oct 15, 2014 8:46 am

Coz he's only done ONE year and wants out....
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Re: End of season movements. FA, trades, bullshit etc.

Postby bennymacca » Wed Oct 15, 2014 8:47 am

ive said this before, but this isnt about tribal club loyalties anymore, this is their workplace. and if they are employable and want to work somewhere else, they should be able to.
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Re: End of season movements. FA, trades, bullshit etc.

Postby nuggety goodness » Wed Oct 15, 2014 8:54 am

bennymacca wrote:ive said this before, but this isnt about tribal club loyalties anymore, this is their workplace. and if they are employable and want to work somewhere else, they should be able to.

Especially considering they don't get to choose where they go initially...
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Re: End of season movements. FA, trades, bullshit etc.

Postby Mr Beefy » Wed Oct 15, 2014 9:00 am

nuggety goodness wrote:
bennymacca wrote:ive said this before, but this isnt about tribal club loyalties anymore, this is their workplace. and if they are employable and want to work somewhere else, they should be able to.

Especially considering they don't get to choose where they go initially...

When they go in the draft they agree to play 2 years at whatever club drafts them. They have to suck it up or not play AFL.
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Re: End of season movements. FA, trades, bullshit etc.

Postby bennymacca » Wed Oct 15, 2014 9:10 am

Mr Beefy wrote:
nuggety goodness wrote:
bennymacca wrote:ive said this before, but this isnt about tribal club loyalties anymore, this is their workplace. and if they are employable and want to work somewhere else, they should be able to.

Especially considering they don't get to choose where they go initially...

When they go in the draft they agree to play 2 years at whatever club drafts them. They have to suck it up or not play AFL.


or they can request a trade, and that can be denied of course but they are within their rights to request it
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Re: End of season movements. FA, trades, bullshit etc.

Postby nuggety goodness » Wed Oct 15, 2014 9:16 am

Mr Beefy wrote:
nuggety goodness wrote:
bennymacca wrote:ive said this before, but this isnt about tribal club loyalties anymore, this is their workplace. and if they are employable and want to work somewhere else, they should be able to.

Especially considering they don't get to choose where they go initially...

When they go in the draft they agree to play 2 years at whatever club drafts them. They have to suck it up or not play AFL.


i get that but its a bit stiff IMO.

18 year old kid, probably never left home gets drafted interstate away from all his mates and family and is forced to be there

imagine if any other industry did that.

50 odd sparkys finish trade school and your boy is the best of the lot, gets picked up by Con's dodgy electrical (apologies to any Con's out there) in Tibooburra NSW on a two year deal. spends the first year out there and hates it then wants to come home AND an experienced sparky says, yeah i wanna go to Tib...

Con says no deal!

you're a jerk Con, a real jerk!!!
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Re: End of season movements. FA, trades, bullshit etc.

Postby MW » Wed Oct 15, 2014 9:21 am

IF they got paid north of 100k to do it I'm sure they would...
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Postby Jim05 » Wed Oct 15, 2014 9:21 am

Just make all contracts 1 year max, the system will soon sort itself out
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Re: End of season movements. FA, trades, bullshit etc.

Postby MW » Wed Oct 15, 2014 9:33 am

imagine the speculation year after year...that would never work
there is nothing wrong with the current contract system except for free agency IMO
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Re: End of season movements. FA, trades, bullshit etc.

Postby Mr Beefy » Wed Oct 15, 2014 9:56 am

nuggety goodness wrote:
Mr Beefy wrote:
nuggety goodness wrote:
bennymacca wrote:ive said this before, but this isnt about tribal club loyalties anymore, this is their workplace. and if they are employable and want to work somewhere else, they should be able to.

Especially considering they don't get to choose where they go initially...

When they go in the draft they agree to play 2 years at whatever club drafts them. They have to suck it up or not play AFL.


i get that but its a bit stiff IMO.

18 year old kid, probably never left home gets drafted interstate away from all his mates and family and is forced to be there

imagine if any other industry did that.

50 odd sparkys finish trade school and your boy is the best of the lot, gets picked up by Con's dodgy electrical (apologies to any Con's out there) in Tibooburra NSW on a two year deal. spends the first year out there and hates it then wants to come home AND an experienced sparky says, yeah i wanna go to Tib...

Con says no deal!

you're a jerk Con, a real jerk!!!

Rather than go to Con's he can always try his luck getting a job at his local sparky for a fraction of Con's wage and then get another job to supplement his income
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Re: End of season movements. FA, trades, bullshit etc.

Postby nuggety goodness » Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:07 am

Mr Beefy wrote:
nuggety goodness wrote:[quote="Mr Beefy]When they go in the draft they agree to play 2 years at whatever club drafts them. They have to suck it up or not play AFL.[/quote]

i get that but its a bit stiff IMO.

18 year old kid, probably never left home gets drafted interstate away from all his mates and family and is forced to be there

imagine if any other industry did that.

50 odd sparkys finish trade school and your boy is the best of the lot, gets picked up by Con's dodgy electrical (apologies to any Con's out there) in Tibooburra NSW on a two year deal. spends the first year out there and hates it then wants to come home AND an experienced sparky says, yeah i wanna go to Tib...

Con says no deal!

you're a jerk Con, a real jerk!!![/quote]
Rather than go to Con's he can always try his luck getting a job at his local sparky for a fraction of Con's wage and then get another job to supplement his income[/quote]


somewhere like visy as an ambassador would probably work

what you're saying is not fulfill his dream and settle for Con's poor little brother George (aka SANFL) or the rich cousin Jonny (aka SAAFL or country league) while 'moonlighting' as a Maccas drive through attendant... sounds great!
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Re: End of season movements. FA, trades, bullshit etc.

Postby Jim05 » Wed Oct 15, 2014 11:58 am

Stanley plus pick 60 to the Cats for pick 21 is a done deal apparantly.
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Re: End of season movements. FA, trades, bullshit etc.

Postby Jim05 » Wed Oct 15, 2014 12:00 pm

Rumours the Crows have entered the race for Ryder, pick 10 has been mentioned. Cant see it happening, has made his mind up about going to Port
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Re: End of season movements. FA, trades, bullshit etc.

Postby bennymacca » Wed Oct 15, 2014 12:02 pm

Jim05 wrote:Rumours the Crows have entered the race for Ryder, pick 10 has been mentioned. Cant see it happening, has made his mind up about going to Port


would be great for the crows, but cant see it happening
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Re: End of season movements. FA, trades, bullshit etc.

Postby woodublieve12 » Wed Oct 15, 2014 12:02 pm

Jim05 wrote:Rumours the Crows have entered the race for Ryder, pick 10 has been mentioned. Cant see it happening, has made his mind up about going to Port

i was actually saying this to someone last week, that the cows should go after him.. Crows need to be ruthless.. Gee, i hope they get him just for sh1ts and giggles... Will be very entertaining as a neutral
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Re: End of season movements. FA, trades, bullshit etc.

Postby Frosty » Wed Oct 15, 2014 12:15 pm

I can't wait to see what sort of game plan Chris Scott is looking to implement at Geelong with Hawkins/Clark/Stanley all in the side - sounds like a kick it in quick, long and high (if that's possible) and hope someone can take a mark. Not quite sure how this is going to play out!
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Re: End of season movements. FA, trades, bullshit etc.

Postby Pup » Wed Oct 15, 2014 12:30 pm

I like the Stanley trade, I think he has a huge amount of potential
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Re: End of season movements. FA, trades, bullshit etc.

Postby Pup » Wed Oct 15, 2014 12:32 pm

am Bays wrote:
stan wrote:Tom Boyd is just looking for the first chance back to Victoria. That is all. Its abit soft and piss poor. I would trade him to the dogs, seriously. Enjoy that environment where even the captain wants out. Or trade him to the saints and he can get flogged each week for the next few years.


Why is it poor?

He's a talented kid who was always going to play at the AFL level. Why shouldn't he play where he want's to after he has done his mandatory two years as per the AFL rules (he's followed the rules by going to the club that drafted him for his 1st contract) . I mean if the club doesn't like them after two years they will "cut" them why can't the player "cut" the club after two years??


Because that's not how the system works or should work.

Free Agency is for that, If you are loyal and work hard for the club that selected you then eventually you will be able to have that choice. The quicker clubs put their foot down and say no i am not trading you this year and next year unless we get a good deal (GWS) then you can go into the PSD and try your luck but we are not going to get held over a barrel just because you are a little homesick/have been offered more money.
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Re: End of season movements. FA, trades, bullshit etc.

Postby gadj1976 » Wed Oct 15, 2014 12:33 pm

Pup wrote:I like the Stanley trade, I think he has a huge amount of potential


Yep, I'm surprised Carlton didn't go after him and St Kilda didn't fight to keep him more!
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