by Dutchy » Mon Dec 08, 2014 11:23 pm
by bennymacca » Tue Dec 09, 2014 12:37 am
kickinit wrote:bennymacca wrote:kickinit wrote:Dutchy wrote:Lobbe signed until end of 2019, 5 years? Big risk IMO, not sure why they had to go for a 5 year contract for him? Thoughts?
A big risk? A big risk would be playing lindsay thomas when there is no oscar to be won.
not sure why you needed to be a tool about it. 5 years is a LOT, for a ruckman especially, and whilst he is good, i am not sure he would have had tons of clubs lining up to give him huge contracts
You serious? He can go with every ruck men in the comp and with out a doubt has the best tank out of all of them. With free agent now allowing players to move clubs much easier, you would be stupid not to lock away your key players for long term contract. Port want to keep Lobe to the end of his career and a 5 year deal is what is needed.
by stan » Tue Dec 09, 2014 8:40 am
Dutchy wrote:I think the whole competition is seeing a massive over correction due to free agency, and by doing this are taking huge risks around injury, form and cap pressure in the years to come. 3 years would have been ideal for Lobbe IMO.
by Booney » Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:15 am
by Booney » Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:20 am
stan wrote:Dutchy wrote:I think the whole competition is seeing a massive over correction due to free agency, and by doing this are taking huge risks around injury, form and cap pressure in the years to come. 3 years would have been ideal for Lobbe IMO.
Agree with this. Starting to see longer contracts to combat free agency.
by mighty_tiger_79 » Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:51 am
by Dutchy » Tue Dec 09, 2014 12:53 pm
Booney wrote:He was contracted for 2015, so 16/17/18/19 means it was a 4 year extension, not a 5 year contract. Semantics, maybe, but that's the accurate version.
At 25 now ( turned 25 on Dec 2 ), he'll be 29 going 30 and has been our lead ruckman for two years. Very positive signs that the group is set to challenge for some time and I doubt he'd be on any more than $325-375k.
He's one of only a few ruckman who played pretty much all year as the sole ruckman. Sides like Sydney ( Pyke/Tippett ) Hawthorn ( Hale/McEvoy/Ceglar ) West Coast ( Cox/Natinui ) played more like 1.5 or 2 ruckman, sides like Adelaide, Port, North etc pretty much ran with one and a little back up from a tall forward. So when it comes to solo lead ruckman, he's one of the premier ones in the comp. With the assistance of Ryder I expect Lobbe to be one of premier big men in the competition.
So how is it that strange? Not like it's $9m over 10 years.
by Rik E Boy » Tue Dec 09, 2014 1:17 pm
Booney wrote:He was contracted for 2015, so 16/17/18/19 means it was a 4 year extension, not a 5 year contract. Semantics, maybe, but that's the accurate version.
At 25 now ( turned 25 on Dec 2 ), he'll be 29 going 30 and has been our lead ruckman for two years. Very positive signs that the group is set to challenge for some time and I doubt he'd be on any more than $325-375k.
He's one of only a few ruckman who played pretty much all year as the sole ruckman. Sides like Sydney ( Pyke/Tippett ) Hawthorn ( Hale/McEvoy/Ceglar ) West Coast ( Cox/Natinui ) played more like 1.5 or 2 ruckman, sides like Adelaide, Port, North etc pretty much ran with one and a little back up from a tall forward. So when it comes to solo lead ruckman, he's one of the premier ones in the comp. With the assistance of Ryder I expect Lobbe to be one of premier big men in the competition.
So how is it that strange? Not like it's $9m over 10 years.
by whufc » Tue Dec 09, 2014 1:20 pm
by Booney » Tue Dec 09, 2014 1:48 pm
Dutchy wrote:Booney wrote:He was contracted for 2015, so 16/17/18/19 means it was a 4 year extension, not a 5 year contract. Semantics, maybe, but that's the accurate version.
At 25 now ( turned 25 on Dec 2 ), he'll be 29 going 30 and has been our lead ruckman for two years. Very positive signs that the group is set to challenge for some time and I doubt he'd be on any more than $325-375k.
He's one of only a few ruckman who played pretty much all year as the sole ruckman. Sides like Sydney ( Pyke/Tippett ) Hawthorn ( Hale/McEvoy/Ceglar ) West Coast ( Cox/Natinui ) played more like 1.5 or 2 ruckman, sides like Adelaide, Port, North etc pretty much ran with one and a little back up from a tall forward. So when it comes to solo lead ruckman, he's one of the premier ones in the comp. With the assistance of Ryder I expect Lobbe to be one of premier big men in the competition.
So how is it that strange? Not like it's $9m over 10 years.
The extension gives him 5 years at the footy club and he gets paid whether he gets injured or form slips, Considering he is so important to your club I highly doubt he would be signing an extension for $325k, just above the average AFL wage of $270k.
I think its a great deal for the player but not so much for the club, and may restrict who you can re-sign in coming years.
by Fricky » Tue Dec 09, 2014 3:32 pm
Booney wrote:Dutchy wrote:Booney wrote:He was contracted for 2015, so 16/17/18/19 means it was a 4 year extension, not a 5 year contract. Semantics, maybe, but that's the accurate version.
At 25 now ( turned 25 on Dec 2 ), he'll be 29 going 30 and has been our lead ruckman for two years. Very positive signs that the group is set to challenge for some time and I doubt he'd be on any more than $325-375k.
He's one of only a few ruckman who played pretty much all year as the sole ruckman. Sides like Sydney ( Pyke/Tippett ) Hawthorn ( Hale/McEvoy/Ceglar ) West Coast ( Cox/Natinui ) played more like 1.5 or 2 ruckman, sides like Adelaide, Port, North etc pretty much ran with one and a little back up from a tall forward. So when it comes to solo lead ruckman, he's one of the premier ones in the comp. With the assistance of Ryder I expect Lobbe to be one of premier big men in the competition.
So how is it that strange? Not like it's $9m over 10 years.
The extension gives him 5 years at the footy club and he gets paid whether he gets injured or form slips, Considering he is so important to your club I highly doubt he would be signing an extension for $325k, just above the average AFL wage of $270k.
I think its a great deal for the player but not so much for the club, and may restrict who you can re-sign in coming years.
With Lobbe ( 25 ), Ryder ( 26 ), Redden ( 23 ) and the recently recruited Billy Frampton ( 199cm ) we've got cover for the next 2-3 years and beyond. I'd imagine Port will go for another tall or two in the next draft too. ( Depending upon the progress of Harvey and Shaw )
With the recent spate of signings beyond 2016 I'm not too worried about how the squad is tracking. Many of the players who have signed on are on 3-4 year deals, clearly the club has spent time considering payments and players, I would imagine, have been wise with how greedy they have been.
by kickinit » Tue Dec 09, 2014 7:01 pm
Dutchy wrote:Booney wrote:He was contracted for 2015, so 16/17/18/19 means it was a 4 year extension, not a 5 year contract. Semantics, maybe, but that's the accurate version.
At 25 now ( turned 25 on Dec 2 ), he'll be 29 going 30 and has been our lead ruckman for two years. Very positive signs that the group is set to challenge for some time and I doubt he'd be on any more than $325-375k.
He's one of only a few ruckman who played pretty much all year as the sole ruckman. Sides like Sydney ( Pyke/Tippett ) Hawthorn ( Hale/McEvoy/Ceglar ) West Coast ( Cox/Natinui ) played more like 1.5 or 2 ruckman, sides like Adelaide, Port, North etc pretty much ran with one and a little back up from a tall forward. So when it comes to solo lead ruckman, he's one of the premier ones in the comp. With the assistance of Ryder I expect Lobbe to be one of premier big men in the competition.
So how is it that strange? Not like it's $9m over 10 years.
The extension gives him 5 years at the footy club and he gets paid whether he gets injured or form slips, Considering he is so important to your club I highly doubt he would be signing an extension for $325k, just above the average AFL wage of $270k.
I think its a great deal for the player but not so much for the club, and may restrict who you can re-sign in coming years.
by bennymacca » Tue Dec 09, 2014 7:10 pm
by kickinit » Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:01 pm
bennymacca wrote:No because you run the risk of signing someone up on big dollars and that gives you less room to move.
by Dutchy » Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:42 pm
kickinit wrote:
Restrict us in the coming years? It's no different to giving him a 3 year extension and then a 2 year extension.
by kickinit » Wed Dec 10, 2014 6:35 am
Dutchy wrote:kickinit wrote:
Restrict us in the coming years? It's no different to giving him a 3 year extension and then a 2 year extension.
No difference? Wow...
by Booney » Wed Dec 10, 2014 9:12 am
bennymacca wrote:No because you run the risk of signing someone up on big dollars and that gives you less room to move.
by Dutchy » Wed Dec 10, 2014 9:36 am
kickinit wrote:Dutchy wrote:kickinit wrote:
Restrict us in the coming years? It's no different to giving him a 3 year extension and then a 2 year extension.
No difference? Wow...
Yep. Lobbe isn't on big coin that is going to restrict us cap wise in the coming years. The fact is your only going on about it because your trying to have another crack at port adelaide. The only thing you post about on the afl board is port adelaide, it's actually becoming pretty pathetic. How about you just worry about the roos and how many times Thomas is going to flop this year
by Booney » Wed Dec 10, 2014 10:20 am
by JK » Wed Dec 10, 2014 11:23 am
Booney wrote:For that I think some would be prepared to take a small cut and keep the group together, Gray being no exception.
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