by Panther Pack » Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:19 pm
by dedja » Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:21 pm
Panther Pack wrote:If Lokan doesn't lift the bays could Chiggy also take on the Senior Coach's role and at the same time save the club some money by doing 2 jobs?
by heater31 » Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:23 pm
dedja wrote:Squawk wrote:heater31 wrote:Clearly they had to wait until the verdict was handed down. Innocent until proven guilty. Would have been a bigger debacle if they arsed him last season when they discovered the allegations then to have a not guilty.
Actually, under employment law it is possible to sack someone on the balance of probabilities, and therefore the club could have dismissed him once the 30 charges were laid on the basis that evidence existed to lay charges and that this brought the employer's reputation in to disrepute.
The thing that surprised me the most was that if they weren't going to sack him when he was charged, the club should have suspended him as soon as he was charged.
All conjecture unless we can all review his employment contract. I think you are trying to reference unfair dismissal laws, which are murky and difficult to interpret and adjudicate at the best of times, and would also potentially involve significant legal expenses.
I'm very comfortable with the way the issue was handled.
by heater31 » Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:24 pm
Panther Pack wrote:If Lokan doesn't lift the bays could Chiggy also take on the Senior Coach's role and at the same time save the club some money by doing 2 jobs?
by dedja » Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:25 pm
by Panther Pack » Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:25 pm
dedja wrote:Panther Pack wrote:If Lokan doesn't lift the bays could Chiggy also take on the Senior Coach's role and at the same time save the club some money by doing 2 jobs?
So predictable PP, 51 years is a long time in't it?
by Pseudo » Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:32 pm
Panther Pack wrote:dedja wrote:Panther Pack wrote:If Lokan doesn't lift the bays could Chiggy also take on the Senior Coach's role and at the same time save the club some money by doing 2 jobs?
So predictable PP, 51 years is a long time in't it?
Ha ha great response I actually got a good laugh.
Wasn't around in 64 but trust me when we had Fuller I was begging for Kerley to return
by Squawk » Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:33 pm
dedja wrote:Squawk wrote:heater31 wrote:Clearly they had to wait until the verdict was handed down. Innocent until proven guilty. Would have been a bigger debacle if they arsed him last season when they discovered the allegations then to have a not guilty.
Actually, under employment law it is possible to sack someone on the balance of probabilities, and therefore the club could have dismissed him once the 30 charges were laid on the basis that evidence existed to lay charges and that this brought the employer's reputation in to disrepute.
The thing that surprised me the most was that if they weren't going to sack him when he was charged, the club should have suspended him as soon as he was charged.
All conjecture unless we can all review his employment contract. I think you are trying to reference unfair dismissal laws, which are murky and difficult to interpret and adjudicate at the best of times, and would also potentially involve significant legal expenses.
I'm very comfortable with the way the issue was handled.
by dedja » Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:46 pm
by dedja » Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:47 pm
Pseudo wrote:Panther Pack wrote:dedja wrote:Panther Pack wrote:If Lokan doesn't lift the bays could Chiggy also take on the Senior Coach's role and at the same time save the club some money by doing 2 jobs?
So predictable PP, 51 years is a long time in't it?
Ha ha great response I actually got a good laugh.
Wasn't around in 64 but trust me when we had Fuller I was begging for Kerley to return
We've been begging for Kerley to return too...
by Squawk » Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:56 pm
dedja wrote:You're quite entitled to that opinion, no problem with that at all, but hindsight always has 20/20 vision.
Perhaps you could advise Essendon who appear to have been struggling with some coach issues of their own for a while.
by Dogwatcher » Fri Jan 23, 2015 2:11 pm
Squawk wrote:dedja wrote:You're quite entitled to that opinion, no problem with that at all, but hindsight always has 20/20 vision.
Perhaps you could advise Essendon who appear to have been struggling with some coach issues of their own for a while.
Actually, I've been saying the same thing (offline) in relation to all of them - Liam Jurrah, Steven Milne, etc etc. So my thoughts are not with hindsight, it's just that I didn't publicly express them at the time.
The thing is that the football world (and sporting world in general) like to do things a bit differently when it comes to legal transgressions. Often with "kid gloves". And the AFLPA is very very happy about that.
On the Hird matter, I agree with you too. In my view, there is one law for everyone. It should be applied to the circumstances of each case. It should not be applied any differently whether it is James Hird or rookie draft pick no 44.
by dedja » Fri Jan 23, 2015 2:12 pm
Panther Pack wrote:dedja wrote:Panther Pack wrote:If Lokan doesn't lift the bays could Chiggy also take on the Senior Coach's role and at the same time save the club some money by doing 2 jobs?
So predictable PP, 51 years is a long time in't it?
Ha ha great response I actually got a good laugh.
Wasn't around in 64 but trust me when we had Fuller I was begging for Kerley to return
by UK Fan » Fri Jan 23, 2015 2:25 pm
fester69 wrote: I'm full of "pish and wind" !!You can call me weak !!
MW wrote: Well call me a special asshole!.
Booney wrote: I'm a happy clapper **** stick.
by on the rails » Fri Jan 23, 2015 2:48 pm
Booney wrote:Yes and no. UK rarely posts about Centrals, hardly ever posts anything positive and usually just runs in, throws a hand grenade and runs for cover.
by UK Fan » Fri Jan 23, 2015 2:50 pm
on the rails wrote:Booney wrote:Yes and no. UK rarely posts about Centrals, hardly ever posts anything positive and usually just runs in, throws a hand grenade and runs for cover.
Kettle, pot and black - see if you can put them in a sentence with some other words - sums you up beautifully!
fester69 wrote: I'm full of "pish and wind" !!You can call me weak !!
MW wrote: Well call me a special asshole!.
Booney wrote: I'm a happy clapper **** stick.
by Dogwatcher » Fri Jan 23, 2015 3:02 pm
by RustyCage » Fri Jan 23, 2015 4:24 pm
Panther Pack wrote:Just out of curiosity was Graham "Studley" Cornes ever in the running to take over from Stevens?
by RB » Fri Jan 23, 2015 5:02 pm
Dogwatcher wrote:In this thread, guys?
by Bounce of the ball » Fri Jan 23, 2015 5:28 pm
dedja wrote:Squawk wrote:heater31 wrote:Clearly they had to wait until the verdict was handed down. Innocent until proven guilty. Would have been a bigger debacle if they arsed him last season when they discovered the allegations then to have a not guilty.
Actually, under employment law it is possible to sack someone on the balance of probabilities, and therefore the club could have dismissed him once the 30 charges were laid on the basis that evidence existed to lay charges and that this brought the employer's reputation in to disrepute.
The thing that surprised me the most was that if they weren't going to sack him when he was charged, the club should have suspended him as soon as he was charged.
All conjecture unless we can all review his employment contract. I think you are trying to reference unfair dismissal laws, which are murky and difficult to interpret and adjudicate at the best of times, and would also potentially involve significant legal expenses.
I'm very comfortable with the way the issue was handled.
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