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Re: HFL Division 1 (Central)

Postby Windbag » Sat Jun 06, 2015 9:19 pm

Association match scores anybody?
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Re: HFL Division 1 (Central)

Postby Look Good In Leather » Sat Jun 06, 2015 10:08 pm

Windbag wrote:Association match scores anybody?


River Murray FL 10.0 (60) d HFL Division1 0.0 (0) - forfeit
Mallee FL 14.16 (100) d HFL Division2 11.12 (78)
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Re: HFL Division 1 (Central)

Postby Windbag » Sat Jun 06, 2015 10:49 pm

Thanks, results up on Sporting Pulse, should have checked there first
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Re: HFL Division 1 (Central)

Postby Legs Man » Sun Jun 07, 2015 11:43 am

chopper7 wrote:
oldbomber wrote:
Dutchy wrote:What is going on at the HFL, drama at every turn the last couple of years, its reputation outside the league is getting dismantled every day.


Yep. As an outsider this league has well and truly become an absolute joke from an administrative point of view lucky somehow the footy is still at a decent standard judging by the odd game i have seen over last few years... this board cant sort out promotion and relegation system losing big $ in court, cant round up an interleague team leaving rmfl high and dry at short notice and now they cant even schedule their own finals fixture properly! What do these absolute dead beats on the board have to do to get sacked?? Clearly these peanuts have no idea how to run a league(no other solid country league in s.a has half these major issues) and are doing and have done for years now some serious damage to any reputation it has left...its time for change NOW on the board before these incompetent dead s#*ts destroy this great league any further....in my opinion


Pack your bags and move along you absolute dead beat! Yes the finals could have been organised better but get on and deal with it. The two other points you make cal completely back onto the clubs. If you had any understanding of this league then you would know the CLUBS voted in the by-laws regarding promotion and relagation, it was because one club decided to think they were bigger than the other 9 clubs in the league and take up the decision in court. How would you feel being on the board as a volunteer and being taken to the Supreme Court over a matter that 12 months ago was agreed on by everyone, with a budget that would never match the club taking the leagues budget and to be continuously bashed around by media that you can't do your job? The interleague situation was once again lack of support from the clubs in the league, nothing to do with the board. The clubs once again voted on the interleague game going ahead and said they would give their support only for all clubs besides Mt Barker, Lobethal, Uraidla, Mt Lofty and Onkas not holding up to their word and not supporting the whole thing. What would you do? Play with 9 blokes? Then it is blokes like you who also continue to bash the HFLs name without knowing all the facts and politics that are going on.
It is a volunteers role, so you think you can do it better whilst trying to work a 38hr week then by all means you spud go right ahead!!

On another note, should be a cracker day tomorrow at loby for the Divvy 2 boys playing the Mallee.


Only problem was that the HFL didn't show the foresight or common sense to realise that it would have made the whole competition a mockery had they relegated the Div 1 premiers to Div 2.
It could have been and should have been solved with a proactive approach by the HFL once Echunga had won the flag.
Certainly a unique situation when they won - and that was the time to take the initiative and sort it out sensibly - not dig the heels in and make a bad situation worse.
Any club that was in Echunga's situation would have taken the same approach once the HFL rolled out the "rules are rules" and "you're going down" statements and didn't try to work an amicable outcome.
Hopefully everyone has learnt from the experience and a more conciliatory approach will be taken in future.
Let's get over this and enjoy the great competition we have this year - then hope a smart revamped structure is put in place for 2016.
Knowing the plight of some clubs - even in Div 1 - regarding juniors and capacity to field these teams there are hopefully solutions being derived NOW in preparation for next season.
The programming dilemma could have been resolved fairly simply but unfortunately wasn't - let's face it that the extra week break isn't ideal and probably shouldn't have even happened - and it hasn't helped with rebuilding the league's standing.
There is still the opportunity to fix this which I hope happens and shows all within and outside of our league that things have changed.
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Re: HFL Division 1 (Central)

Postby Peakedinhighschool » Sun Jun 07, 2015 10:04 pm

Massive news within HFL ranks. Rumours of a new club pushing for a spot in the league. Some big name players apparently signed on.... #cantstopthepaddle
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Re: HFL Division 1 (Central)

Postby cracka » Sun Jun 07, 2015 10:07 pm

Peakedinhighschool wrote:Massive news within HFL ranks. Rumours of a new club pushing for a spot in the league. Some big name players apparently signed on.... #cantstopthepaddle

What, a brand new club from say out of Littlehampton (on my knees praying) or a club from another league?
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Re: HFL Division 1 (Central)

Postby Elmer J Thudpucker » Sun Jun 07, 2015 10:14 pm

Peakedinhighschool wrote:Massive news within HFL ranks. Rumours of a new club pushing for a spot in the league. Some big name players apparently signed on.... #cantstopthepaddle


Must be time for the Cornerstone College rumour to raise its head again.
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Re: HFL Division 1 (Central)

Postby oldbomber » Mon Jun 08, 2015 11:07 am

cracka wrote:
oldbomber wrote:In victoria leagues have previously threatened to and followed through with suspensions for players over not making themselves available for interleague. Harsh maybe but shows they as commissioners and people incharge of running the show atleast stick to their guns unlike these spineless chooks running the HFL. Sure they are volunteers who do this outside 38 hours a week but I for one hope they dont give up their day jobs as with any more time on their hands would only lead to them screwing this league even further...

So you would support the HFL board for handing out fines and/or suspensions to clubs & players.


Yes. I just want to see this board stand up, show some strength and prove they have control and direction on certain issues...In victoria a 2 week suspension is what I have seen a league punish a player with who didnt have a valid reason for not playing. Was harsh but showed the league was serious about improving their ranking and made all other clubs ensure their stars were available or risk losing them for a couple of weeks mid season. Fines would be too extreme and funnily enough the same bloke played interleague the next year albeit probably only to avoid suspension again.

Overall though I wouldnt mind if interleague was scrapped...just dont line up another league and leave them high and dry at the last minute when you can get a div 2 side together as it looks very unprofessional.
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Re: HFL Division 1 (Central)

Postby always there » Mon Jun 08, 2015 5:53 pm

oldbomber wrote:
cracka wrote:
oldbomber wrote:In victoria leagues have previously threatened to and followed through with suspensions for players over not making themselves available for interleague. Harsh maybe but shows they as commissioners and people incharge of running the show atleast stick to their guns unlike these spineless chooks running the HFL. Sure they are volunteers who do this outside 38 hours a week but I for one hope they dont give up their day jobs as with any more time on their hands would only lead to them screwing this league even further...

So you would support the HFL board for handing out fines and/or suspensions to clubs & players.


Yes. I just want to see this board stand up, show some strength and prove they have control and direction on certain issues...In victoria a 2 week suspension is what I have seen a league punish a player with who didnt have a valid reason for not playing. Was harsh but showed the league was serious about improving their ranking and made all other clubs ensure their stars were available or risk losing them for a couple of weeks mid season. Fines would be too extreme and funnily enough the same bloke played interleague the next year albeit probably only to avoid suspension again.

Overall though I wouldnt mind if interleague was scrapped...just dont line up another league and leave them high and dry at the last minute when you can get a div 2 side together as it looks very unprofessional.


Are you listening? The clubs that did not support the inter-league, after saying that they would, have made us look like twits and unprofessional not the HFL board. The HFL would not have gone ahead with organising the games without the assurance from all clubs that they would support it. What you people do not see is that these clubs and comments and bagging of the HFL could bring about its demise and then you,will have no where to play. Get it together people and get your clubs pulling together and supporting the league and not making it personal. The rot will set in and that will be the end.
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Re: HFL Division 1 (Central)

Postby Look Good In Leather » Mon Jun 08, 2015 8:56 pm

always there wrote:
oldbomber wrote:
cracka wrote:
oldbomber wrote:In victoria leagues have previously threatened to and followed through with suspensions for players over not making themselves available for interleague. Harsh maybe but shows they as commissioners and people incharge of running the show atleast stick to their guns unlike these spineless chooks running the HFL. Sure they are volunteers who do this outside 38 hours a week but I for one hope they dont give up their day jobs as with any more time on their hands would only lead to them screwing this league even further...

So you would support the HFL board for handing out fines and/or suspensions to clubs & players.


Yes. I just want to see this board stand up, show some strength and prove they have control and direction on certain issues...In victoria a 2 week suspension is what I have seen a league punish a player with who didnt have a valid reason for not playing. Was harsh but showed the league was serious about improving their ranking and made all other clubs ensure their stars were available or risk losing them for a couple of weeks mid season. Fines would be too extreme and funnily enough the same bloke played interleague the next year albeit probably only to avoid suspension again.

Overall though I wouldnt mind if interleague was scrapped...just dont line up another league and leave them high and dry at the last minute when you can get a div 2 side together as it looks very unprofessional.


Are you listening? The clubs that did not support the inter-league, after saying that they would, have made us look like twits and unprofessional not the HFL board. The HFL would not have gone ahead with organising the games without the assurance from all clubs that they would support it. What you people do not see is that these clubs and comments and bagging of the HFL could bring about its demise and then you,will have no where to play. Get it together people and get your clubs pulling together and supporting the league and not making it personal. The rot will set in and that will be the end.


Inter-league games are pretty much dead for the big money leagues now, the imports have little attachment to the competition.
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Re: HFL Division 1 (Central)

Postby grasshopper22 » Tue Jun 09, 2015 11:52 am

In past seasons the RMFL board have handed out 2 match suspensions for people making them selves unavailable without a valid reason.
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Re: HFL Division 1 (Central)

Postby 19thman » Tue Jun 09, 2015 2:06 pm

Peakedinhighschool wrote:Massive news within HFL ranks. Rumours of a new club pushing for a spot in the league. Some big name players apparently signed on.... #cantstopthepaddle


We don't need more clubs, we need less!
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Re: HFL Division 1 (Central)

Postby RooShootOhh » Wed Jun 10, 2015 11:15 am

Legs Man wrote:Only problem was that the HFL didn't show the foresight or common sense to realise that it would have made the whole competition a mockery had they relegated the Div 1 premiers to Div 2.
It could have been and should have been solved with a proactive approach by the HFL once Echunga had won the flag.
Certainly a unique situation when they won - and that was the time to take the initiative and sort it out sensibly - not dig the heels in and make a bad situation worse.
Any club that was in Echunga's situation would have taken the same approach once the HFL rolled out the "rules are rules" and "you're going down" statements and didn't try to work an amicable outcome.
Hopefully everyone has learnt from the experience and a more conciliatory approach will be taken in future.
Let's get over this and enjoy the great competition we have this year - then hope a smart revamped structure is put in place for 2016.
Knowing the plight of some clubs - even in Div 1 - regarding juniors and capacity to field these teams there are hopefully solutions being derived NOW in preparation for next season.
The programming dilemma could have been resolved fairly simply but unfortunately wasn't - let's face it that the extra week break isn't ideal and probably shouldn't have even happened - and it hasn't helped with rebuilding the league's standing.
There is still the opportunity to fix this which I hope happens and shows all within and outside of our league that things have changed.


Do you actually hear yourself...?

Your club along with every other club voted on the Promotion/Relegation issue, yet you say the Board didn't have the foresight! MAYBE your club official should have said something at the previous AGM, they had their chance, didn't, yet your bunch of sooks couldn't cop that sweetly.

The reality was there was nothing to sort out... And now trying to argue that the premiers can't get related is Bullsh!t, thats not what you argued in court, nor did any rule change around promotion/relegation get changed have anything to do with Premiers of Div 1 staying up.
What would have happened if even the finals wins weren't enough to keep you off the bottom of the relegation table, the new rule change wouldn't have helped there.

The only people that need to learn anything from the experience of last year is your club. Learn that they are not bigger than any other club or the league for that matter...
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Re: HFL Division 1 (Central)

Postby running defender » Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:25 pm

Sooky sooky lala roo boy get over it . At least we had the guts to go through with no support apart from two clubs. All you other clubs are to scared to say anything , it's just like the AGM no one queries anything it's just yes yes all passed . Your all just jealous the new boys took out the cup . You should be asking the board why they strongly recommend fighting the case , not one club spoke up, just show of hands passed, they just took 95k for the finals and not one red cent back to clubs for putting on the show and what about this years finals what a stuff up, why don't div 2 play on country champion weekend ? Because CFL said so well stuff em what are they gunna do suspend the whole league . We need forward thinking people to run this league not people stuck in the 80's
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Re: HFL Division 1 (Central)

Postby Legs Man » Wed Jun 10, 2015 9:02 pm

RooShootOhh wrote:
Legs Man wrote:Only problem was that the HFL didn't show the foresight or common sense to realise that it would have made the whole competition a mockery had they relegated the Div 1 premiers to Div 2.
It could have been and should have been solved with a proactive approach by the HFL once Echunga had won the flag.
Certainly a unique situation when they won - and that was the time to take the initiative and sort it out sensibly - not dig the heels in and make a bad situation worse.
Any club that was in Echunga's situation would have taken the same approach once the HFL rolled out the "rules are rules" and "you're going down" statements and didn't try to work an amicable outcome.
Hopefully everyone has learnt from the experience and a more conciliatory approach will be taken in future.
Let's get over this and enjoy the great competition we have this year - then hope a smart revamped structure is put in place for 2016.
Knowing the plight of some clubs - even in Div 1 - regarding juniors and capacity to field these teams there are hopefully solutions being derived NOW in preparation for next season.
The programming dilemma could have been resolved fairly simply but unfortunately wasn't - let's face it that the extra week break isn't ideal and probably shouldn't have even happened - and it hasn't helped with rebuilding the league's standing.
There is still the opportunity to fix this which I hope happens and shows all within and outside of our league that things have changed.


Do you actually hear yourself...?

Your club along with every other club voted on the Promotion/Relegation issue, yet you say the Board didn't have the foresight! MAYBE your club official should have said something at the previous AGM, they had their chance, didn't, yet your bunch of sooks couldn't cop that sweetly.

The reality was there was nothing to sort out... And now trying to argue that the premiers can't get related is Bullsh!t, thats not what you argued in court, nor did any rule change around promotion/relegation get changed have anything to do with Premiers of Div 1 staying up.
What would have happened if even the finals wins weren't enough to keep you off the bottom of the relegation table, the new rule change wouldn't have helped there.

The only people that need to learn anything from the experience of last year is your club. Learn that they are not bigger than any other club or the league for that matter...


Sorry Roo Boy - please read my post properly. ( as you have obviously read the court transcripts or were present at the hearings)

As you will note I simply stated that the opportunity was there for the decision makers to formulate a solution which negated the need for the premiers to be relegated due to a very unique situation.
This wasn't the course of action taken which in my opinion was a lack of foresight with an aim to resolve the situation at hand once presented.
The capacity to make the above mentioned decision was only apparent once the grand final was completed - with Echunga victorious - meaning they would be relegated albeit just winning the competition.
Relegating the premiers doesn't promote our league in a good light and surely makes a mockery of our competition.
The only option for Echunga was to take the course they did after extensive consultation with our legal team and the HFL.
The decision was made by the Supreme Court which fortunately fell in Echunga's favour - bearing in mind that the HFL had full knowledge this outcome was a distinct possibility and still pursued it rather than attempting to resolve it out of court and in an amicable manner.

The decision has been made and we need to get on with it - and only hope that everyone moves forward to make the HFL better.
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Re: HFL Division 1 (Central)

Postby always there » Thu Jun 11, 2015 8:46 am

running defender wrote:Sooky sooky lala roo boy get over it . At least we had the guts to go through with no support apart from two clubs. All you other clubs are to scared to say anything , it's just like the AGM no one queries anything it's just yes yes all passed . Your all just jealous the new boys took out the cup . You should be asking the board why they strongly recommend fighting the case , not one club spoke up, just show of hands passed, they just took 95k for the finals and not one red cent back to clubs for putting on the show and what about this years finals what a stuff up, why don't div 2 play on country champion weekend ? Because CFL said so well stuff em what are they gunna do suspend the whole league . We need forward thinking people to run this league not people stuck in the 80's

I would like to nominate you to be in the HFL board, RD and I am sure we will get plenty of seconders. You seem to be the man with the knowledge to bring the league out of the 80's.
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Re: HFL Division 1 (Central)

Postby batmanbegins » Thu Jun 11, 2015 1:29 pm

Round 9 Tips:

Blackwood V Barker- Barker were really competitive previous game against Lobethal but just wasted a few chances, Whilst the Woodies did what they had to do to defeat the dogs. The break would of served both team's well as Blackwood will get Dundovic and Bricknell back from a few weeks out and the Roos should get a couple back also. The big question is can Barker kick a big enough score to win the game as offensively this year they have been struggling, If Hill or A-Z dont kick goals who will. Barker's midfield relies very heavily on Hughes while the woodies appear to have a good spread in the middle at the minute with Edwards and Ridley leading the way at the minute. Herbert will dominate the ruck and give first service to their midfield and Dundovic should be on the end of a few, Whist Thompson will dominate down back as he has all year. Blackwood by 4 goals, Just have to much depth for a young barker side.
Lofty V Onkas- The bottom two sides clash in a big game for both sides. Hopefully the break allowed Onkas to get some key players back which should make them stronger for the second half of the year. Lofty would be expecting to win this game and need to bring a consistent four quarter effort as the dogs are always competitive. Once again Miles and Burch are the two keys for Lofty in the middle and they should get first service from Oheril who will be to athletic for Ferraro in the ruck but Klun, Tanner and Woolford are a very good midfield and if they get on top Lofty may be in strife. Clements and Nielsen should prove to be a handful for Onkas defense which has been leaking a few goals but down the other end I'm not sure if lofty have anyone big enough to control Grocke. I'm going to go lofty at home by 2 goals with Miles having a field day.
Torrens Valley V Echunga- Huge game between two sides that arent particularly fond of one another. The dees won't want to lose another game as that will drop them back to the pack while the Lions want to cement themselves on top of the ladder. Will be interesting to see if O'sullivan and Renshaw have recovered from their injuries against Uri's as they would be massive outs. The dees appeared flat against the Bankers and will come out with all guns blazing saturday, Cranna is a huge in as he should dominate the ruck against young Watchel, giving Lindsay, Edwards and Jennings first use and if that happens TV wont be able to stop Aish and Harland from kicking bags as their weak spot appears to be key defenders especially if Renshaw doeesnt get up. Carey on Boras or Ellis should be a cracking contest but Carey should be able to hurt them if he runs of them, I feel as if Echunga are one side that match up well with TV's big forward line as liston and Carey are really good defenders with size. Echunga by 4 goals but would't surprise me if i'm wrong as TV have been fantastic all year.
Ironbank V Hahndorf- Big game for both sides as the Dorf want to set up a top 3 spot and the Bankers want to get themselves in the 5. Both sides are in form, in particular Hahndorf winning their last 4 on the back of some great team performances. Wittwer is a big in and will certainly create plenty of headaches for the thunderers as well as Hourigan who is in very good form. Both Roberts will dominate the ruck as they are to big and athletic for Van Den Berg which should give Paul and Tripodi plenty of chance to get their hands on the ball but Muirden, Baker and Shearwood have been good in the middle over the past few weeks. Purling on Motlop or De Visser will be a cracking contest and could go a long way to deciding the contest as they are all key players and Hitchock will no doubt get plenty of attention on the wing this week. I think at home Ironbank by 2 goals as Hahndorf have struggled at Ironbank over the past few years.
Lobethal V Uraidla- Another cracking clash as they actually all are this week. Lobe Scrapped by Barker whilst Uri's had their first loss in round 8. Weather may play a big part in this game as if it's a nice day, Lobe on the wide expanses of their oval may have to much pace for Uri's to handle but if it's cold and wet Uris are to big and strong around the contest. Delvins appears to be hitting top form and Down will hit it down his throat all day but the Jenkin's Boys, Baust and Bampton will be excited by the challenge and I expect them to run Uris of their feet. Uris are by far and away the best defensive side in the Comp and will need to be to stop Lobe who can be one of the best offensive sides which should make this a cracking game to watch. Lobethal by a goal as I just worry about Uris against quicker sides on big decks.
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Re: HFL Division 1 (Central)

Postby cracka » Fri Jun 12, 2015 4:05 pm

Was just looking in the clearances thread & saw this.

-Echunga Football Club Adelaide Football League (SAAFL) Bassani, Lindsay Pending 2015-06-12

WTF
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Re: HFL Division 1 (Central)

Postby Alaska » Fri Jun 12, 2015 4:25 pm

He featured in the Clearances last year, with a few games for Milang didn't he?
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Re: HFL Division 1 (Central)

Postby cracka » Fri Jun 12, 2015 4:31 pm

Oh okay. Didn't know that.
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