by Dogwatcher » Thu Jul 02, 2015 12:01 pm
by The Bedge » Thu Jul 02, 2015 12:03 pm
Dogwatcher wrote:Is that a negative? You should be paying locals before travellers, anyway.
Dolphin Treasure wrote:Your an attention seeking embarsement..
by Monopoly Man » Thu Jul 02, 2015 12:05 pm
by Mr Beefy » Thu Jul 02, 2015 12:09 pm
cracka wrote:qwerty wrote:cracka wrote:running defender wrote:Salary cap won't work , how are you going to stop the wheat farmer or the potato grower from employing a bloke for 2 days and giving him $600 . The cfl should actually get of there butt ,
go and watch a few games and get a feel of what's going on out there.
Apps system only rewards mediocrity why should clubs that win Gf or play finals get penalised?
Give every club the same amount of points or get rid of it.
Salary cap can work if players are made to sign stat decs on what & how they're paid.
What a load of crap APPS rewards mediocrity, it stops clubs buying flags year after year.
Makes you wonder then how all these leagues/clubs survived in some cases for over 100 years, thank god for the points system the saviour of local footy
Oh yeah, I forgot about all the leagues/clubs that have been paying massive amounts of dollars* since the 1920's, silly me.
by Jim05 » Thu Jul 02, 2015 12:13 pm
Monopoly Man wrote:Isn't this whole campaign about protecting the SAAFL and SANFL? They are sick of losing players to country leagues for dollars.
by The Bedge » Thu Jul 02, 2015 12:14 pm
Monopoly Man wrote:Isn't this whole campaign about protecting the SAAFL and SANFL? They are sick of losing players to country leagues for dollars.
Dolphin Treasure wrote:Your an attention seeking embarsement..
by cracka » Thu Jul 02, 2015 1:26 pm
by Look Good In Leather » Thu Jul 02, 2015 2:47 pm
LaughingKookaburra wrote:Watched and played country Victorian footy. It's a great standard but you can't justify clubs paying 150k upwards a year on a handful of players a year no matter what context you put it in.
by Look Good In Leather » Thu Jul 02, 2015 3:05 pm
by cracka » Thu Jul 02, 2015 4:07 pm
Look Good In Leather wrote:I love the arguments that payments are out of control and the like. Apparently players are not worth what they are getting.
Clubs will only pay what they are prepared to, players will get paid what they are worth (simple economics that something is worth what someone is willing to pay).
My biggest issue is with the hypocritical idiots who suggest that someone should not be allowed to gain a little bit of extra income by risking their body once a week over 18-20 weeks of a year. I am sure that in their everyday job they do not offer to take a pay cut because there is someone out there in the world who does a similar job for less pay, nor forgoing earning a bit extra by getting a second job, sitting on a Board, selling things on eBay, investing, etc. I know of people who have made playing and coaching country football their primary job, how dare someone suggest that they should not be allowed to do that - if someone is willing to pay them, good luck to them.
It is all designed to protect two things; the AFL Reserves competition, a league that has no soul, no relevance and minimal future; and the Channel 9 Adelaide Football League, the behemoth league that is the result of the centralisation of metropolitan football from the 70s to the 90s, that has abandoned it's amateur principles, but wants to impose them on the rest of the state.
Change the SANFL to AFL South Australia as that is what it now represents; split up the SAAFL to re-establish district leagues with a central Amateur competition based around the Old Scholars cartel; reform the Country Football Championships into a divisional inter-league carnival rather than meaningless zones; and remove unnecessary regulatory policies (APPS, Salary Cap, Age Restrictions etc) from metropolitan and country clubs to allow them to just play football and represent their communities. Football would be a lot healthier in this state as a result.
By the way, I nominate this discussion started by Bag & Sledge for Thread of the Year.
by batmanbegins » Thu Jul 02, 2015 4:19 pm
Look Good In Leather wrote:I love the arguments that payments are out of control and the like. Apparently players are not worth what they are getting.
Clubs will only pay what they are prepared to, players will get paid what they are worth (simple economics that something is worth what someone is willing to pay).
My biggest issue is with the hypocritical idiots who suggest that someone should not be allowed to gain a little bit of extra income by risking their body once a week over 18-20 weeks of a year. I am sure that in their everyday job they do not offer to take a pay cut because there is someone out there in the world who does a similar job for less pay, nor forgoing earning a bit extra by getting a second job, sitting on a Board, selling things on eBay, investing, etc. I know of people who have made playing and coaching country football their primary job, how dare someone suggest that they should not be allowed to do that - if someone is willing to pay them, good luck to them.
It is all designed to protect two things; the AFL Reserves competition, a league that has no soul, no relevance and minimal future; and the Channel 9 Adelaide Football League, the behemoth league that is the result of the centralisation of metropolitan football from the 70s to the 90s, that has abandoned it's amateur principles, but wants to impose them on the rest of the state.
Change the SANFL to AFL South Australia as that is what it now represents; split up the SAAFL to re-establish district leagues with a central Amateur competition based around the Old Scholars cartel; reform the Country Football Championships into a divisional inter-league carnival rather than meaningless zones; and remove unnecessary regulatory policies (APPS, Salary Cap, Age Restrictions etc) from metropolitan and country clubs to allow them to just play football and represent their communities. Football would be a lot healthier in this state as a result.
By the way, I nominate this discussion started by Bag & Sledge for Thread of the Year.
by cracka » Thu Jul 02, 2015 4:22 pm
by cracka » Thu Jul 02, 2015 4:25 pm
batmanbegins wrote:Look Good In Leather wrote:I love the arguments that payments are out of control and the like. Apparently players are not worth what they are getting.
Clubs will only pay what they are prepared to, players will get paid what they are worth (simple economics that something is worth what someone is willing to pay).
My biggest issue is with the hypocritical idiots who suggest that someone should not be allowed to gain a little bit of extra income by risking their body once a week over 18-20 weeks of a year. I am sure that in their everyday job they do not offer to take a pay cut because there is someone out there in the world who does a similar job for less pay, nor forgoing earning a bit extra by getting a second job, sitting on a Board, selling things on eBay, investing, etc. I know of people who have made playing and coaching country football their primary job, how dare someone suggest that they should not be allowed to do that - if someone is willing to pay them, good luck to them.
It is all designed to protect two things; the AFL Reserves competition, a league that has no soul, no relevance and minimal future; and the Channel 9 Adelaide Football League, the behemoth league that is the result of the centralisation of metropolitan football from the 70s to the 90s, that has abandoned it's amateur principles, but wants to impose them on the rest of the state.
Change the SANFL to AFL South Australia as that is what it now represents; split up the SAAFL to re-establish district leagues with a central Amateur competition based around the Old Scholars cartel; reform the Country Football Championships into a divisional inter-league carnival rather than meaningless zones; and remove unnecessary regulatory policies (APPS, Salary Cap, Age Restrictions etc) from metropolitan and country clubs to allow them to just play football and represent their communities. Football would be a lot healthier in this state as a result.
By the way, I nominate this discussion started by Bag & Sledge for Thread of the Year.
I don't get how footy is in a bad way, especially country footy appears to be in a really good way. Looks at the Majority of Country comps and they are very even, The points system has appeared to help that and rewards the clubs that actually hold on to recruits which is what should be the aim. Cracka may know better then me but Hills Central Div is as even as it has ever been this year with all teams being hugely competitive as shown by the weekend. Great Southern league also appears to be incredibly competitive with 8 or 9 teams able to make the finals. I have no real issue with the point system and I believe country footy has never been this even.
by Mr Beefy » Thu Jul 02, 2015 4:36 pm
Jim05 wrote:Monopoly Man wrote:Isn't this whole campaign about protecting the SAAFL and SANFL? They are sick of losing players to country leagues for dollars.
Not sure the country leagues give a damn about the SAAFL, I know most people in the Barossa dont. Maybe the SAAFL need to catch up and charge entry fees.
by Monopoly Man » Thu Jul 02, 2015 4:42 pm
cracka wrote:I've had an idea, was going to be a sarcastic one but the more I think about it, it could be a goer. How about we get a Country Super League up & running, just A & B grades with no salary cap or APPS restrictions. Clubs who can afford it & want in can join & all other country leagues remain with APPS & salary cap restrictions to keep costs down for clubs who can't afford it. Maybe???
by Rough » Thu Jul 02, 2015 5:37 pm
by oldbomber » Thu Jul 02, 2015 6:11 pm
by cracka » Thu Jul 02, 2015 6:26 pm
by cracka » Thu Jul 02, 2015 8:55 pm
Mr Beefy wrote:Jim05 wrote:Monopoly Man wrote:Isn't this whole campaign about protecting the SAAFL and SANFL? They are sick of losing players to country leagues for dollars.
Not sure the country leagues give a damn about the SAAFL, I know most people in the Barossa dont. Maybe the SAAFL need to catch up and charge entry fees.
Charge entry fees? So SAAFL clubs have more cash, causing country clubs to pay even more for their recruits?
by CouchExpert » Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:36 pm
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