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Postby VALE PARK » Mon Apr 18, 2016 9:43 pm

A guilty plea today for striking = $200.
Does that mean you can wack someone and expect ONLY a $200 fine?
Looks like it to me.
Is this a weak soft modern tribunal penalty?
Not a good look for the SANFL IMHO.
I hope no one is injured when they know it will only cost the striker $200!
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Re: Tribunal

Postby daysofourlives » Mon Apr 18, 2016 9:52 pm

VALE PARK wrote:A guilty plea today for striking = $200.
Does that mean you can wack someone and expect ONLY a $200 fine?
Looks like it to me.
Is this a weak soft modern tribunal penalty?
Not a good look for the SANFL IMHO.
I hope no one is injured when they know it will only cost the striker $200!


Your rants are getting worse mate, tell me, an AFL player gets $1000 fine for the same offence yeah???
What percentage of an AFL players wage is a SANFL player on?
Obviously a more serious strike gets games.
Fines should be left for the big boys where its their only income. SANFL players should never be fined nor should anyone that plays outside the AFL, their club maybe but not the individual.
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Re: Tribunal

Postby robranisgod » Mon Apr 18, 2016 10:19 pm

I don't care whether Johnston got a reprimand or fine or whatever, I am just surprised that he didn't receive a suspension given he received a reprimand for striking in 2012 and I assume had some carry over points.

Can anyone explain to me please how this system works.

I thought points carried over for three years and it is not three years yet since Johnston's last report for striking.

Has the league stuffed up again?
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Re: Tribunal

Postby VALE PARK » Mon Apr 18, 2016 10:35 pm

I agree with you,
no fines please they are a easy cheap option,
game penalties are the go.
To me a striking offence equals a minimum of 1 game penalty in the SANFL,if the tribunal is serious.
There has to be a proper deterrent for striking in any comp,who cares what the AFL do.
$200 to me is a Micky mouse penalty and no deterrent to SANFL players.
The tribunal have decided a striking offence = $200.
Good comment has the league stuffed up again?
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Re: Tribunal

Postby Reddeer » Tue Apr 19, 2016 7:21 pm

robranisgod wrote:I don't care whether Johnston got a reprimand or fine or whatever, I am just surprised that he didn't receive a suspension given he received a reprimand for striking in 2012 and I assume had some carry over points.

Can anyone explain to me please how this system works.

I thought points carried over for three years and it is not three years yet since Johnston's last report for striking.

Has the league stuffed up again?

Constantly stuffing up everything to do with what was once the SANFL
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Re: Tribunal

Postby Grahaml » Tue Apr 19, 2016 7:59 pm

daysofourlives wrote:
VALE PARK wrote:A guilty plea today for striking = $200.
Does that mean you can wack someone and expect ONLY a $200 fine?
Looks like it to me.
Is this a weak soft modern tribunal penalty?
Not a good look for the SANFL IMHO.
I hope no one is injured when they know it will only cost the striker $200!


Your rants are getting worse mate, tell me, an AFL player gets $1000 fine for the same offence yeah???
What percentage of an AFL players wage is a SANFL player on?
Obviously a more serious strike gets games.
Fines should be left for the big boys where its their only income. SANFL players should never be fined nor should anyone that plays outside the AFL, their club maybe but not the individual.


I'd agree with no fines if blokes weren't getting paid to play but they are. Suspend them and they get how much money for playing? These blokes aren't exactly volunteers.
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Re: Tribunal

Postby Dutchy » Wed Apr 27, 2016 10:01 pm

SANFL News
27 APR 2016
SANFL TRIBUNAL – UPDATED
By ZAC MILBANK | Twitter @zacmilbank

Adelaide defender Andy Otten has been suspended for two matches after being found guilty of making intentional contact with an umpire on Sunday.

Otten made contact with field umpire Leigh Haussen during the fourth quarter of the clash between Adelaide and Glenelg at Gliderol Stadium.

Pleading not guilty to the charge at the SANFL Tribunal on Wednesday night, Otten argued that his ‘’sole focus’’ was to remonstrate with Glenelg opponent Tim Sumner, who had struck him seconds before the incident.

Otten’s defence also centred on the fact he was concussed from being struck by Sumner, stating that he still had to pass another concussion test this week if he was to play against South Adelaide on Sunday.

While acknowledging Otten initially appeared to lose consciousness, SANFL Tribunal Chairman Ian White said it was clearly evident that Otten got up to remonstrate with Sumner and that he has a fair memory of the incident.

White also noted Otten was coherent enough to display an intent to get to Sumner which was a ‘’deliberate course of conduct’’ en route to intentionally pushing umpire Haussen.

White said it was extremely important to impose a two-match penalty to act as a strong deterrent to other SANFL players and those in lower leagues in South Australia.

After the hearing, Otten said while he was disappointed with the verdict, he understood that umpires were a ‘’protected species’’ and that he and club officials would weigh up whether to appeal the verdict by midday on Thursday.

Earlier in the evening, GLENELG forward Tim Sumner was suspended for three matches after pleading guilty to striking Otten.

Despite Sumner arguing the force of the strike was of medium rather than high impact, White disagreed and said it was a deliberate, fast and sharp blow while Otten was in a defenceless position.

Sumner’s case had been referred directly to the SANFL Tribunal after the Incident Review Panel deemed he made intentional, high contact to Otten which was of high impact.

A medical report noted Otten had concussion and was removed from the game shortly after the incident.

WEST goalsneak Shannon Green has accepted a one-match ban with an early guilty plea for making forceful front-on contact with the Eagles’ James Boyd at the Adelaide Oval on Monday.

EAGLES forward Lachlan McGregor has accepted a reprimand for engaging in rough conduct with West's Zac O'Brien at the Adelaide Oval on Monday.
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Re: Tribunal

Postby RustyCage » Wed Apr 27, 2016 11:36 pm

Otten suspension very weak. He is very lucky, as was Moore last year. Touch an umpire and you should be expecting a decent stint on the sidelines
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Re: Tribunal

Postby Grahaml » Thu Apr 28, 2016 1:23 am

I disagree. Touch an umpire like that and you should get a couple of games. If he was remonstrating with the umpire himself and put his hands on him, then it demands a more severe penalty. Definitely need to be clear that pushing umpires around is not on, but this one is not as bad as punching a bloke in the back of the head hard enough to give him concussion.
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Re: Tribunal

Postby hawks21 » Thu Apr 28, 2016 8:57 am

Umpire should get two games for standing in his way! Why is he getting between players? Had to watch it twice to see what Otten even did it was that soft. NRL just had a couple cases similar. 2 games for for that and a 3 games for a punch to the head doesn't sit right with me.
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Re: Tribunal

Postby stan » Thu Apr 28, 2016 11:21 am

RustyCage wrote:Otten suspension very weak. He is very lucky, as was Moore last year. Touch an umpire and you should be expecting a decent stint on the sidelines

Absolutely!

We are all tought at a young age DONT Touch an umpire.
Read my reply. It is directed at you because you have double standards
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Re: Tribunal

Postby saintal » Thu Apr 28, 2016 8:15 pm

Ottens' appeal thrown out, 2 week ban stands. Surprised he bothered.
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Re: Tribunal

Postby carey » Thu Apr 28, 2016 8:37 pm

saintal wrote:Ottens' appeal thrown out, 2 week ban stands. Surprised he bothered.



Did you see the grounds of the appeal? Adelaide had medical evidence he had concussion and wasn't thinking straight.

F**k me. :roll:

Should've got a week added!
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Re: Tribunal

Postby heater31 » Thu Apr 28, 2016 8:38 pm

carey wrote:
saintal wrote:Ottens' appeal thrown out, 2 week ban stands. Surprised he bothered.



Did you see the grounds of the appeal? Adelaide had medical evidence he had concussion and wasn't thinking straight.

F**k me. :roll:

Should've got a week added!



Always going to argue that avenue........never a chance and he was probably given a discount of 1 week anyway in the first instance for getting whacked in the scone :roll:
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Re: Tribunal

Postby Spargo » Thu Apr 28, 2016 8:45 pm

hawks21 wrote:Umpire should get two games for standing in his way! Why is he getting between players?

If we're going to lay blame on the umpire, maybe rewind the tape & have a look at the blatant, goal costing free to Sumner ignored by the umpire which led to his frustration & lashing out at Otten.
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