by marbles » Tue Nov 22, 2016 12:19 pm
by Trader » Tue Nov 22, 2016 12:38 pm
by human_torpedo » Tue Nov 22, 2016 12:59 pm
by Fricky » Tue Nov 22, 2016 1:03 pm
Trader wrote:Morell, I don't understand why you are so against allowing clubs to spend money.
There are blokes that spend 200k on a boat and fishing equipment because they enjoy that hobby and find it a great way to fill their weekends.
There are other blokes who don't like to fish, but would rather watch local footy. So rather than spending 200k on a boat, they donate 10-15k a year to their local club. If a club has 10-20 of these blokes floating around, which is easily the case at some of the bigger clubs, then why shouldn't that club be allowed to spend $200k a year on players?
The fisherman is allowed to spend his money to buy a better boat, why cant the footy fan donate and enable his side to buy a bigger ruckman?
I don't buy the argument that we need to cap the top end to push the quality of players around, that's a false economy of football talent. Div 7 isn't meant to be equal to Div 1, there is no reason for the talent to be equally spread.
by jo172 » Tue Nov 22, 2016 1:07 pm
human_torpedo wrote:Agreed wholeheartedly with your last point, div 7 should never be equal to div 1.. But just because they play under the same cap, doesn't make them equal. No Div 7 club will come close to the cap..
The issue that clubs spending limitless money is generally that it creates a false value for players, and quite often its not sustainable, and when the money dries up, the club bottoms right out.. Think they are trying to make a sustainable and viable environment for all
Having said that, I still cant understand why the C9AFL clubs would want a lower cap than Country leagues. The fuel allowance should be the only point of difference IMO
by marbles » Tue Nov 22, 2016 1:10 pm
Oval Ball wrote:marbles wrote:Do these salary cap restrictions apply to country leagues too? ie: luke harder
They sure do - No sign on fees ,1 marquee player per team, total payments $3500 plus $600 incentives, so if he was there marquee player he can be paid $1000 per game.
by jo172 » Tue Nov 22, 2016 1:16 pm
marbles wrote:Oval Ball wrote:marbles wrote:Do these salary cap restrictions apply to country leagues too? ie: luke harder
They sure do - No sign on fees ,1 marquee player per team, total payments $3500 plus $600 incentives, so if he was there marquee player he can be paid $1000 per game.
giv div 1 to div 3 the same
and div 4 down can remain talentless.
by human_torpedo » Tue Nov 22, 2016 1:18 pm
jo172 wrote:human_torpedo wrote:Agreed wholeheartedly with your last point, div 7 should never be equal to div 1.. But just because they play under the same cap, doesn't make them equal. No Div 7 club will come close to the cap..
The issue that clubs spending limitless money is generally that it creates a false value for players, and quite often its not sustainable, and when the money dries up, the club bottoms right out.. Think they are trying to make a sustainable and viable environment for all
Having said that, I still cant understand why the C9AFL clubs would want a lower cap than Country leagues. The fuel allowance should be the only point of difference IMO
Wouldn't be so sure of that in 2016.
Have it on reasonable authority that one D7 club's spending had it mid-range in D1
by jo172 » Tue Nov 22, 2016 1:22 pm
human_torpedo wrote:jo172 wrote:human_torpedo wrote:Agreed wholeheartedly with your last point, div 7 should never be equal to div 1.. But just because they play under the same cap, doesn't make them equal. No Div 7 club will come close to the cap..
The issue that clubs spending limitless money is generally that it creates a false value for players, and quite often its not sustainable, and when the money dries up, the club bottoms right out.. Think they are trying to make a sustainable and viable environment for all
Having said that, I still cant understand why the C9AFL clubs would want a lower cap than Country leagues. The fuel allowance should be the only point of difference IMO
Wouldn't be so sure of that in 2016.
Have it on reasonable authority that one D7 club's spending had it mid-range in D1
And will PNU be reigning in their spending in 2017 you reckon?
by marbles » Tue Nov 22, 2016 1:23 pm
human_torpedo wrote:jo172 wrote:human_torpedo wrote:Agreed wholeheartedly with your last point, div 7 should never be equal to div 1.. But just because they play under the same cap, doesn't make them equal. No Div 7 club will come close to the cap..
The issue that clubs spending limitless money is generally that it creates a false value for players, and quite often its not sustainable, and when the money dries up, the club bottoms right out.. Think they are trying to make a sustainable and viable environment for all
Having said that, I still cant understand why the C9AFL clubs would want a lower cap than Country leagues. The fuel allowance should be the only point of difference IMO
Wouldn't be so sure of that in 2016.
Have it on reasonable authority that one D7 club's spending had it mid-range in D1
And will PNU be reigning in their spending in 2017 you reckon?
by marbles » Tue Nov 22, 2016 1:24 pm
jo172 wrote:
Without extensive consideration I would have thought (on the understanding the rest of the SACFL is at $3,500 next year):
D1: $3,500
D2: $3,000
D3: $2,800
D4: $2,600
D5: $2,400
D6: $2,200
D7: $2,000
would be about right.
by jo172 » Tue Nov 22, 2016 1:27 pm
marbles wrote:jo172 wrote:
Without extensive consideration I would have thought (on the understanding the rest of the SACFL is at $3,500 next year):
D1: $3,500
D2: $3,000
D3: $2,800
D4: $2,600
D5: $2,400
D6: $2,200
D7: $2,000
would be about right.
plus marquee players yeah?
so brett ebert could play C9AFL?
by morell » Tue Nov 22, 2016 1:44 pm
I am not totally against clubs spending money. If a player makes a profound impact on a club through their efforts, on and off the field, I can understand a monetary recompense being offered. What I am against is the over inflation of the market for average footballers which directly limits smaller clubs being able to recruit and retain players.Trader wrote:Morell, I don't understand why you are so against allowing clubs to spend money.
There are blokes that spend 200k on a boat and fishing equipment because they enjoy that hobby and find it a great way to fill their weekends.
There are other blokes who don't like to fish, but would rather watch local footy. So rather than spending 200k on a boat, they donate 10-15k a year to their local club. If a club has 10-20 of these blokes floating around, which is easily the case at some of the bigger clubs, then why shouldn't that club be allowed to spend $200k a year on players?
The fisherman is allowed to spend his money to buy a better boat, why cant the footy fan donate and enable his side to buy a bigger ruckman?
I don't buy the argument that we need to cap the top end to push the quality of players around, that's a false economy of football talent. Div 7 isn't meant to be equal to Div 1, there is no reason for the talent to be equally spread.
by morell » Tue Nov 22, 2016 1:57 pm
Hey marbles...you're small time toomarbles wrote:im not even bothering reading your small time lack of appreciation for quality footballers morell
by marbles » Tue Nov 22, 2016 2:01 pm
morell wrote:Hey marbles...you're small time toomarbles wrote:im not even bothering reading your small time lack of appreciation for quality footballers morell
If you want to appreciate quality footballers, go here:
not here:
by morell » Tue Nov 22, 2016 2:05 pm
by the milky bar kid » Tue Nov 22, 2016 2:08 pm
by marbles » Tue Nov 22, 2016 2:10 pm
morell wrote:Can I swap it for a Mitchell Park Canteen Voucher?
Those things are better than cash money!
by jo172 » Tue Nov 22, 2016 2:20 pm
the milky bar kid wrote:Can I ask, if the current individual max payment is $400, what is the maximum in neighboring leagues?
by Footy Chick » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:09 pm
morell wrote:If someone photo shops Trumps hair onto a picture of JK it's beers on me whenever you visit MPFC
Gatt_Weasel wrote:if they (Walkerville) dont win the flag ill run around the block of my street naked :) you can grab a chair and enjoy the view
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