by stan » Thu Dec 22, 2016 10:56 am
by Jimmy_041 » Thu Dec 22, 2016 11:30 am
stan wrote:It has been the extreme left that has brought about the rise of Hansen and then Trump. It will also fuel Corey in this a case aswell, not directly of course but in the same way the average person has just had enough of the left wing going nuts. It is literally giving rise to the far right but what wold happen if you told a lefty this?
I'll tell you, they'll just shout louder.
Hence the rise of the conservative right and far right.
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by stan » Thu Dec 22, 2016 1:28 pm
Jimmy_041 wrote:stan wrote:It has been the extreme left that has brought about the rise of Hansen and then Trump. It will also fuel Corey in this a case aswell, not directly of course but in the same way the average person has just had enough of the left wing going nuts. It is literally giving rise to the far right but what wold happen if you told a lefty this?
I'll tell you, they'll just shout louder.
Hence the rise of the conservative right and far right.
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It's not just the far right who have brought in Brexit and Trump
It's middle of the road who are sick of having PC crap forced down their necks by the oligarchy whilst they feather their own nests
At least Cory made his own money before getting into politics
But you are right, the "tolerant" left wont tolerate being challenged as we can see in both UK and US
by bennymacca » Thu Dec 22, 2016 2:33 pm
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:I only heard about Corey's potential new party for the first time last week...
Clearly he has been doing the numbers and thinks it's worthwhile, for the long term.
If anything it's also a big **** to Turnbull and his fans.
I'm not necessarily a fan of Corey, but I would vote for him over Turnbull. You know where you stand with Corey, Turnbull puts everything on the table for reform and then when there is a backlash against changes he slowly takes it off the table and we are back to where it started and nothing happens.
I think Corey and Pauline probably took a lot out of Trump's victory in the us and can see a political future with that style of politics, even though Pauline was voted in before Trump, that may have just been the rebel vote against the major parties then.
Interesting times.
stan wrote:
Seems the term First Seek to understand is thrown out the window the greens are up and about.
by bennymacca » Thu Dec 22, 2016 2:37 pm
by Q. » Thu Dec 22, 2016 3:25 pm
by stan » Thu Dec 22, 2016 4:16 pm
bennymacca wrote:mighty_tiger_79 wrote:I only heard about Corey's potential new party for the first time last week...
Clearly he has been doing the numbers and thinks it's worthwhile, for the long term.
If anything it's also a big **** to Turnbull and his fans.
I'm not necessarily a fan of Corey, but I would vote for him over Turnbull. You know where you stand with Corey, Turnbull puts everything on the table for reform and then when there is a backlash against changes he slowly takes it off the table and we are back to where it started and nothing happens.
I think Corey and Pauline probably took a lot out of Trump's victory in the us and can see a political future with that style of politics, even though Pauline was voted in before Trump, that may have just been the rebel vote against the major parties then.
Interesting times.
The irony is, Corey, Christensen and others are precisely the ones that have put Turnbull between a rock and a hard place and not allowed him to put his agenda forth, as it doesnt even have the backing of some elements of his party.
Splitting off the far right from the Libs might even be a good thing for them - it would force them to negotiate with labor more as the far right will have the freedom to oppose anything more moderate - and we may get something towards centrist pragmatism that I wish we had.stan wrote:
Seems the term First Seek to understand is thrown out the window the greens are up and about.
hardly just the bastion of the left - the alt right movement is all about intolerance under the guise of breaking down "political correctness" (just to be clear I am not sticking up for the greens here, but surely you realise that this is a problem on both sides - discourse has polarised recently, which is for the worse.
by Jimmy_041 » Thu Dec 22, 2016 8:33 pm
Q. wrote:Yes, it's the age of misinformation.
They need to teach Critical Thinking in schools.
by Grenville » Fri Dec 23, 2016 4:39 pm
Jimmy_041 wrote:Q. wrote:Yes, it's the age of misinformation.
They need to teach Critical Thinking in schools.
Too busy teaching them to be assexual
by Gozu » Fri Dec 23, 2016 8:27 pm
Senator Rod Culleton has been declared bankrupt after a hearing in the Federal Court in Perth and faces being barred from serving in the Senate.
The verdict against Senator Culleton follows legal action brought against him by creditor and former Wesfarmers boss Dick Lester to have him declared bankrupt.
Under section 44 of the constitution, a senator who is declared bankrupt or insolvent is disqualified from serving in the Senate.
However, the judge has granted a 21-day stay on the order — which means Senator Culleton is not immediately disqualified.
Senator Culleton reacted to the verdict by shouting at the judge, saying "I'm bleeding here".
"You just executed me, your Honour, before I bleed to death," he said.
"I'm going to call this matter to the Senate."
by Ditchy » Fri Dec 23, 2016 9:06 pm
stan wrote:It has been the extreme left that has brought about the rise of Hansen and then Trump. It will also fuel Corey in this a case aswell, not directly of course but in the same way the average person has just had enough of the left wing going nuts. It is literally giving rise to the far right but what wold happen if you told a lefty this?
I'll tell you, they'll just shout louder.
Hence the rise of the conservative right and far right.
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by bennymacca » Sat Dec 24, 2016 12:52 am
by Ditchy » Sat Dec 24, 2016 1:55 am
bennymacca wrote:Fair rant there ditchy. But in case you have been in a ditch the last couple of years all of the "Muslims and Africans" coming to Australia aren't coming here by boat anymore.
But good on you for being racist enough to paint them all with the same brush
by stan » Sat Dec 24, 2016 10:49 am
bennymacca wrote:Fair rant there ditchy. But in case you have been in a ditch the last couple of years all of the "Muslims and Africans" coming to Australia aren't coming here by boat anymore.
But good on you for being racist enough to paint them all with the same brush
by Ditchy » Sat Dec 24, 2016 1:10 pm
stan wrote:bennymacca wrote:Fair rant there ditchy. But in case you have been in a ditch the last couple of years all of the "Muslims and Africans" coming to Australia aren't coming here by boat anymore.
But good on you for being racist enough to paint them all with the same brush
Hes not racist towards Muslims. Muslim is not a race. Can we please get that right.
by bennymacca » Sat Dec 24, 2016 7:47 pm
stan wrote:bennymacca wrote:Fair rant there ditchy. But in case you have been in a ditch the last couple of years all of the "Muslims and Africans" coming to Australia aren't coming here by boat anymore.
But good on you for being racist enough to paint them all with the same brush
Hes not racist towards Muslims. Muslim is not a race. Can we please get that right.
by Magellan » Sat Dec 24, 2016 8:00 pm
by bennymacca » Sat Dec 24, 2016 8:20 pm
Magellan wrote:By the way, the most recent example of far right governance in a western democracy worked out OK for everyone, right? The Night of the Long Knives wasn't a Masterchef spinoff. At least the trains ran on time, small price to pay for efficient public conveyance.
by Jim05 » Sat Dec 24, 2016 8:35 pm
bennymacca wrote:Magellan wrote:By the way, the most recent example of far right governance in a western democracy worked out OK for everyone, right? The Night of the Long Knives wasn't a Masterchef spinoff. At least the trains ran on time, small price to pay for efficient public conveyance.
They won't even know what you are talking about
by Ditchy » Sat Dec 24, 2016 9:12 pm
Jim05 wrote:bennymacca wrote:Magellan wrote:By the way, the most recent example of far right governance in a western democracy worked out OK for everyone, right? The Night of the Long Knives wasn't a Masterchef spinoff. At least the trains ran on time, small price to pay for efficient public conveyance.
They won't even know what you are talking about
I think most people know how the Nazi party worked out.
No doubt ordinary citizens of Australia have had a gut full of the current situation and I'm not sure what can be done peacefully by the government. I would think that eventually something has to give and people will revolt against the system
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