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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby amber_fluid » Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:50 pm

$20 an hour for a 40 year old supporting a family is bugger all.
I'm glad I don't work in retail but feel for people who do.
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby Brodlach » Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:51 pm

amber_fluid wrote:$20 an hour for a 40 year old supporting a family is bugger all.
I'm glad I don't work in retail but feel for people who do.

Again that is their choice.

You buy things off the internet from overseas,if you do you are partly to blame


Not to forget that family will also get probably $400 a fortnight in government handouts
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby Booney » Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:55 pm

Brodlach wrote:
amber_fluid wrote:$20 an hour for a 40 year old supporting a family is bugger all.
I'm glad I don't work in retail but feel for people who do.

Again that is their choice.

You buy things off the internet from overseas,if you do you are partly to blame

Not to forget that family will also get probably $400 a fortnight in government handouts


This will be my last post directed at you on the subject as it's clear to me you don't have enough of an understanding on the matter to have any reasonable debate about it.
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby amber_fluid » Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:55 pm

Brodlach wrote:
amber_fluid wrote:$20 an hour for a 40 year old supporting a family is bugger all.
I'm glad I don't work in retail but feel for people who do.

Again that is their choice.

You buy things off the internet from overseas,if you do you are partly to blame


Not to forget that family will also get probably $400 a fortnight in government handouts


I understand what you are saying(to a degree) but people without education or qualifications don't have a choice sometimes.
Their only choice is to work a low income job with penalty rates or become unemployed.
I know what I'd rather them do.
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby Q. » Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:56 pm

Brodlach wrote:That's why so many people are on benefits


Nope, that's what they want you to think. The level of people in Australia on welfare has fallen significantly over the past decade.
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:01 pm

What does government handouts got to do with penalty Rates being slashed?
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby Spargo » Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:02 pm

Brodlach wrote:
amber_fluid wrote:$20 an hour for a 40 year old supporting a family is bugger all.
I'm glad I don't work in retail but feel for people who do.

Again that is their choice.

You buy things off the internet from overseas,if you do you are partly to blame


Not to forget that family will also get probably $400 a fortnight in government handouts

Good lord.
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby Brodlach » Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:02 pm

Hilarious!

Ok Booney, I have no idea about what you are talking about. Your opinion is the only correct one. You have obviously employed a lot of people.

I have been through many businesses in the last 28 years, I think I am very qualified to talk about this. I have plenty of experience with this and people's work ethic, personal growth and expectations.
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby Booney » Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:05 pm

Spargo wrote:
Brodlach wrote:
amber_fluid wrote:$20 an hour for a 40 year old supporting a family is bugger all.
I'm glad I don't work in retail but feel for people who do.

Again that is their choice.

You buy things off the internet from overseas,if you do you are partly to blame


Not to forget that family will also get probably $400 a fortnight in government handouts

Good lord.


Yup.
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby Brodlach » Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:06 pm

mighty_tiger_79 wrote:What does government handouts got to do with penalty Rates being slashed?

Amber was talking about it being hard to live on $800 a week for a family which would be very difficult, just pointing out that for low income earners there is extra assistance
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby amber_fluid » Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:06 pm

Brodlach wrote:Hilarious!

Ok Booney, I have no idea about what you are talking about. Your opinion is the only correct one. You have obviously employed a lot of people.

I have been through many businesses in the last 28 years, I think I am very qualified to talk about this. I have plenty of experience with this and people's work ethic, personal growth and expectations.


It sounds like you have your business hat on and not your empathy hat! ;)

I don't agree with paying double time on Sundays but some form of penalty rates still need to be in place to protect the employee.
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby Brodlach » Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:07 pm

Q. wrote:
Brodlach wrote:That's why so many people are on benefits


Nope, that's what they want you to think. The level of people in Australia on welfare has fallen significantly over the past decade.


It's all in the way they produce the figures


You work one hour a week and you are taken off the unemployed rate.
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby Booney » Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:07 pm

Brodlach wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:What does government handouts got to do with penalty Rates being slashed?

Amber was talking about it being hard to live on $800 a week for a family which would be very difficult, just pointing out that for low income earners there is extra assistance


(One last one)

You're right, they should just choose to earn $150k P.A instead.
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby Q. » Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:11 pm

Brodlach wrote:
Q. wrote:
Brodlach wrote:That's why so many people are on benefits


Nope, that's what they want you to think. The level of people in Australia on welfare has fallen significantly over the past decade.


It's all in the way they produce the figures


You work one hour a week and you are taken off the unemployed rate.


Those are unemployment statistics.

Australia's welfare statistics can be seen in plain daylight, and it's easy to find interactive graphs on the web that separate figures for newstart, aged pension, DSP etc. and how our welfare to GDP ratio compares to other countries
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby Brodlach » Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:14 pm

Booney wrote:
Brodlach wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:What does government handouts got to do with penalty Rates being slashed?

Amber was talking about it being hard to live on $800 a week for a family which would be very difficult, just pointing out that for low income earners there is extra assistance


(One last one)

You're right, they should just choose to earn $150k P.A instead.

Work hard, pick the right profession, take risks and they can.


Someone we know has no qualifications at all, worked a dead end job started a house cleaning business and now turnsover $150,000 a year because they worked hard and took a risk.

Sometimes you just have to have the gumption
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby Q. » Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:17 pm

The capitalist pyramid doesn't work like that. Not everyone who 'works hard' can be near the top.
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby amber_fluid » Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:19 pm

Booney wrote:
Brodlach wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:What does government handouts got to do with penalty Rates being slashed?

Amber was talking about it being hard to live on $800 a week for a family which would be very difficult, just pointing out that for low income earners there is extra assistance


(One last one)

You're right, they should just choose to earn $150k P.A instead.


I choose to earn $150k a year.........unfortunately for me, my CEO chooses not to pay it!! :lol:
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby amber_fluid » Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:20 pm

Q. wrote:The capitalist pyramid doesn't work like that. Not everyone who 'works hard' can be near the top.


Correct!
My staff work way harder than I do. ;)
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby Booney » Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:21 pm

Q. wrote:The capitalist pyramid doesn't work like that. Not everyone who 'works hard' can be near the top.


Some of the hardest workers are holding the pyramid up.
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby Brodlach » Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:22 pm

Q. wrote:The capitalist pyramid doesn't work like that. Not everyone who 'works hard' can be near the top.

For everyone that tries there are others who fail
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