Port Adelaide 2017

[stan]

So ah just back to Australia for a sex and leaving China for now, how are Port looking at the moment. Look a bit slow against the saints.

How did Ryder move about thwre boon. Woukd be keen to hear your thoughts or valleys about what your expecting to see this season.

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[MW]

So ah just back to Australia for a sex and leaving China for now, how are Port looking at the moment. Look a bit slow against the saints.

How did Ryder move about thwre boon. Woukd be keen to hear your thoughts or valleys about what your expecting to see this season.

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Sex no good in China?

[Booney]

Oh, UK, so it's cost neutral but not yet a financial success?

Yet, if Port went into this little exercise and lost money you'd strap your little boots on and kick and scream until all the toys were out the cot.

Instead Port have already had the game funded by sponsors, anything from here on in ( as I understand it ) is money in the kitty to the parties involved.

All going well this could potentially be a massive financial gain for Port and the AFL.

Meanwhile, kick away.....

So to clarify its not a commercial success yet. You've just made that statement up.

I Thought so.

Leopards don't change their spots as they say

Missing a couple of clubs from the deck, aren't you?

You ( for what you understand ) tell me it's now "cost neutral", that we have both acknowledged, which means it's not costing Port or the AFL money out of their pockets. If it was costing us money, it would be a failure, if it's not costing us money it would be a success, wouldn't it?

Yes, you can phone a friend if you need to.

[MW]

Quit while you're behind UK

[MW]

I think this sums up what most are thinking (except for Port fans and Rowey)

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/expert-opinion/port-adelaide-president-david-koch-turns-guernseys-for-china-game-into-issue-of-national-significance/news-story/468780d666c8222d8c724bdba5762bff


IT takes a special kind of lunacy to make Gold Coast blowhard Tony Cochrane sound reasoned and rational by comparison.

David Koch, stand up and accept your prize.

The Port Adelaide chairman has somehow ratcheted up an trifling issue — jumper colours for the China game — into an issue of national significance.

And in the process validated all those critics who believe the Power are a Hollywood club who believe in style over substance.

Thank goodness the likes of Jeff Kennett and Koch instantly broke their promises to be seen and not heard given the lack of colour in the AFL these days.

They provide theatre and anger and quotable quotes in an era of one-week-at-a-time guff.

In between swearing on breakfast radio and again whacking away at Koch on Wednesday while also stating Gold Coast was “dead set out of excuses”, Cochrane’s latest interview was captivating.

But this football turf war comes with Port Adelaide having promised it would not be swayed by exactly these kind of distractions in a make-or-break year.

Port Adelaide coach Ken Hinkley, aware there is “blood” in the water over his own future, promised just that during last year’s John Cahill Medal.

“Let’s be recognised for the way we play and not the noise we make,” he stated.

He reinforced that stance later in the pre-season with this: “As I said at the best-and-fairest we will talk when we’ve got something to talk about.”

Spending weeks feuding with Gold Coast over a determination to effectively pilfer the Suns’ colours for the China game seems the very definition of wasted energy.

The Power want Gold Coast to wear their white clash strip rather than red and gold because they are China’s national colours and will have a commercial value to the club linked to them.

Gold Coast, through Cochrane and now new boss Mark Evans, have effectively told them to get stuffed.

Now Kochie wants to take his bat and ball and go home, threatening to strip Gold Coast of their involvement in the game from 2018 onwards.

The problem for the Sunrise host is that Tourism Australia have poured into this game a figure the Herald Sun believes is a much as a million dollars.

And they are well aware the Gold Coast is the perfect place and opponent to include in this game.

The Minister for Trade, Tourism and Investment, Steven Ciobo, also has an electorate that includes the Gold Coast.

So threats to strip Gold Coast of the game in future years will almost certainly ring empty.

“We’ll be wearing our home strip and there’s some very good reasons for that,” Evans said on Wednesday.

“As I’ve found out, tourism on the Gold Coast is pretty important — 3.6 million Chinese tourists were interviewed as to their favourite destination worldwide and Gold Coast came up fourth.

“So it’s a pretty good reason to maximise that opportunity for Tourism Australia and the Gold Coast.”

Everyone is battling for the little guy here, not Koch as he scrutinises the fine print of the $500,000 contract to relocate the Suns’ home game.

Consider this: if he had enlisted Collingwood for this China extravaganza then subsequently told them Port was wearing black and white, how would that conversation go?

Eddie McGuire’s replay would be two words, and the second one would be OFF.

Koch should be using the blowtorch and applying it to every part of the Port Adelaide operation in a quest to return to finals.

Before that Round 8 China game his mediocre Power takes on Sydney, Fremantle, Adelaide, GWS and West Coast.

If Port Adelaide takes its eyes off the real game and continues in its attempts to steal another team’s colours, the China contest will be the least of its troubles.

[bennymacca]

Oh, UK, so it's cost neutral but not yet a financial success?

Yet, if Port went into this little exercise and lost money you'd strap your little boots on and kick and scream until all the toys were out the cot.

Instead Port have already had the game funded by sponsors, anything from here on in ( as I understand it ) is money in the kitty to the parties involved.

All going well this could potentially be a massive financial gain for Port and the AFL.

Meanwhile, kick away.....

So to clarify its not a commercial success yet. You've just made that statement up.

I Thought so.

Leopards don't change their spots as they say

Missing a couple of clubs from the deck, aren't you?

You ( for what you understand ) tell me it's now "cost neutral", that we have both acknowledged, which means it's not costing Port or the AFL money out of their pockets. If it was costing us money, it would be a failure, if it's not costing us money it would be a success, wouldn't it?

Yes, you can phone a friend if you need to.

im not the greatest fan of UK, but surely breaking even doesnt automatically guarantee that its a success.

If port breaks even, gold coast makes 500k plus arguably greater sponsorship and tourism opportunities, and both take a hit in terms of onfield performance, surely that would be a net negative for port?

[MW]

Can't believe I am defending Port here....

I believe it is cost neutral already, meaning anything on top is gravy (additional sponsors etc).

[Ronnie]

Koch will shut up now, having led the charge, leaving the smoother and softer KT to make further comments and try and retrieve something from the situation. Media manual page 1 from Port.

[Spargo]

Hollywood club

[Booney]

Hollywood club

Kind of makes it hard* to take the authors knowledge on the club seriously, doesn't it?

[Spargo]

Hollywood club

Kind of makes it hard* to take the authors knowledge on the club seriously, doesn't it?

What about your Hollywood supporter base...
Port home matches have always reminded me of a Lakers game in LA

[Wedgie]

B Grade Horror Movies are also filmed in Hollywood.

[Booney]

im not the greatest fan of UK, but surely breaking even doesnt automatically guarantee that its a success.

If port breaks even, gold coast makes 500k plus arguably greater sponsorship and tourism opportunities, and both take a hit in terms of onfield performance, surely that would be a net negative for port?

In a financial sense surely breaking even 3 months from the game, is a success? Almost weekly new partners come on board.

Port Adelaide aren't in this for tourism opportunities, Port Adelaide are in this to secure major sponsors and corporate partners to secure our off field future. There's only so many corporate dollars in Australia, there's even less in Adelaide.

If part of the net result is South Australia gets increased tourism from the Chinese, excellent.

[Booney]

Anyway, we should get back onto the important stuff.

What will the crowd figure be? The stadium can hold 25,000.

[MW]

Honest question, are they charging entry fee?
If not, 20K +?
If they are, maybe 5K?

[Jim05]

21k
15-18k expats and Port people going over, 3k Chinese max

[Lightning McQueen]

Anyway, we should get back onto the important stuff.

What will the crowd figure be? The stadium can hold 25,000.

They'd be china fill it I'd imagine.

[Booney]

Honest question, are they charging entry fee?
If not, 20K +?
If they are, maybe 5K?

Over 5000 Port people are heading over according to reports from various travel agencies, I'd expect a couple of thousand GC people to do the same.

Ex-pats from Hong Kong, Japan etc. The stadium will fill and I'd think a few thousand Chinese will be in.

The game is being televised live into several Chinese TV stations too.

[UK Fan]

im not the greatest fan of UK, but surely breaking even doesnt automatically guarantee that its a success.

If port breaks even, gold coast makes 500k plus arguably greater sponsorship and tourism opportunities, and both take a hit in terms of on field performance, surely that would be a net negative for port?

In a financial sense surely breaking even 3 months from the game, is a success?

Not at all. Especially if you are forecasting a profit would you consider cost neutral being a success in any way shape or form.

You sure you just didnt start claiming almost overnight its a "commercial success" as opposed to your numerous previous claims of "cost neutral" to assure everyone/yourself the chinese venture is gold no matter what.

It seems a drastic change in stance after a few questions about a jumper have been raised.

Why is it the AFL/PAFC and all other media reports about the chinese venture never once claimed its already a "commercial success".

Just you all of a sudden.

Does it makes any sense to you that Koch is jumping up and down like a 4 year old over the color of a guernsey on a venture that is already as only you claim a "commercial success".

Or does that sound like the actions of a guy under pressure to make every post a winner moving forward to make this venture a "commercial success".

Which is the situation reported via all PAC/AFl officials basically everyone but yourself.

[Booney]

Can you see your inferiority complex in the mirror?