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Re: AFL Round 7

Postby Feenix » Tue May 09, 2017 8:50 am

carey wrote:The MRP are f**ked.

Stevens and Waite both get a week! honestly it's a contact sport for Christ sake, no one wants to see blokes knocked out in tackles but broken tackles are spoken about week after week yet now you can't tackle a bloke for fear of missing a week.

And to rub salt in the umpire actually awarded the Stevens tackle holding the ball 2 days later, 2 week suspension WTF!

I really fear where this once great game is heading.

We should be looking at the actions of players not the injury reports afterwards. Like you said no one wants to see players knocked out but players are taught to wrap the arms so the ball cant be released. This really goes against everything the game is about, we're already seeing the bump being pushed out of the game. Now the tackle?
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Re: AFL Round 7

Postby MW » Tue May 09, 2017 8:53 am

The issue is duty of care. There is a major issue in contact sports around the world, especially NFL in America, where concussion related illness later in life is creating massive lawsuits. AFL are trying to stamp out concussions that can be avoided. Slamming someone into the ground while their arms are pinned so they cannot protect their head is not "everything the game is about". You can still tackle strong, legally. Look at Geary on Patton last week.
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Re: AFL Round 7

Postby Spargo » Tue May 09, 2017 9:20 am

MW wrote:
Spargo wrote:Why wasn't Crouch suspended for his sling Tackle on Atley - which he was given a free for? Why wasn't Walker rubbed out for his sling tackle on Hansen? The North players braced for impact, thus avoiding concussion.
Yet gutlessly punch a bloke whilst they're not looking (as a repeat offender) and get another slap on the wrist.
Yep, makes plenty of sense.


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Re: AFL Round 7

Postby Spargo » Tue May 09, 2017 9:22 am

MW wrote:The issue is duty of care. There is a major issue in contact sports around the world, especially NFL in America, where concussion related illness later in life is creating massive lawsuits. AFL are trying to stamp out concussions that can be avoided. Slamming someone into the ground while their arms are pinned so they cannot protect their head is not "everything the game is about". You can still tackle strong, legally. Look at Geary on Patton last week.

And surely there is some onus on the player being tackled to brace for impact if their arms aren't pinned.
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Re: AFL Round 7

Postby stan » Tue May 09, 2017 9:28 am

Spargo wrote:
MW wrote:
Spargo wrote:Why wasn't Crouch suspended for his sling Tackle on Atley - which he was given a free for? Why wasn't Walker rubbed out for his sling tackle on Hansen? The North players braced for impact, thus avoiding concussion.
Yet gutlessly punch a bloke whilst they're not looking (as a repeat offender) and get another slap on the wrist.
Yep, makes plenty of sense.


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Your missing the point here.

I am about to feel real dirty here but Spargo has a point. Yeah Scott Thompson is a flog at times, but Camerons little gut hit deserved a week. I thought Waite was always in striff only because thats the pattern for his entire career. Find form then get suspended, but in this case Lynch was turning as well.
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Re: AFL Round 7

Postby MW » Tue May 09, 2017 9:55 am

I understand what you are saying Spargo, but you can't pot only certain types of thuggery without looking at all the other ones.
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Re: AFL Round 7

Postby bennymacca » Tue May 09, 2017 10:50 am

Feenix wrote:We should be looking at the actions of players not the injury reports afterwards. Like you said no one wants to see players knocked out but players are taught to wrap the arms so the ball cant be released. This really goes against everything the game is about, we're already seeing the bump being pushed out of the game. Now the tackle?


this will only result in more suspensions, not less
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Re: AFL Round 7

Postby Spargo » Tue May 09, 2017 10:56 am

bennymacca wrote:
Feenix wrote:We should be looking at the actions of players not the injury reports afterwards. Like you said no one wants to see players knocked out but players are taught to wrap the arms so the ball cant be released. This really goes against everything the game is about, we're already seeing the bump being pushed out of the game. Now the tackle?


this will only result in more suspensions, not less

At least it wouldn't resemble a chook raffle.
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Re: AFL Round 7

Postby bennymacca » Tue May 09, 2017 11:00 am

personally i think trying to outlaw the sling tackle is fine by me. happy with stevens and waite getting suspended.

But I do agree that cameron should have got a week. Anything behind the ball and graded as intentional conduct should be a week minimum, no matter what the impact is graded as
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Re: AFL Round 7

Postby Booney » Tue May 09, 2017 11:11 am

http://www.afl.com.au/video/2017-05-09/ ... -headlines

Lindsay Thomas showing his tough guy side in the VFL on the weekend.

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Re: AFL Round 7

Postby Spargo » Tue May 09, 2017 11:30 am

Booney wrote:http://www.afl.com.au/video/2017-05-09/watch-in-trouble-other-headlines

Lindsay Thomas showing his tough guy side in the VFL on the weekend.

Invertebrate.

Really poor by LT, he'll cop his fair whack - I'd say 3-4 weeks.
This doesn't help his returning to the senior side anytime soon.
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Re: AFL Round 7

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue May 09, 2017 11:42 am

Booney wrote:http://www.afl.com.au/video/2017-05-09/watch-in-trouble-other-headlines

Lindsay Thomas showing his tough guy side in the VFL on the weekend.

Invertebrate.

And it was a rookie on the receiving end, funny how someone smaller than him threw around like a rag doll afterwards.

I've tried to like the guy over time but just cannot bring myself to do so.
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Re: AFL Round 7

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue May 09, 2017 11:42 am

Spargo wrote:
Booney wrote:http://www.afl.com.au/video/2017-05-09/watch-in-trouble-other-headlines

Lindsay Thomas showing his tough guy side in the VFL on the weekend.

Invertebrate.

Really poor by LT, he'll cop his fair whack - I'd say 3-4 weeks.
This doesn't help his returning to the senior side anytime soon.

Probably a good thing for you guys, probably end up at Collingwood next year anyway, he is nearly 30 and ripe for them.
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Re: AFL Round 7

Postby Dutchy » Tue May 09, 2017 11:56 am

Spargo wrote:
Booney wrote:http://www.afl.com.au/video/2017-05-09/watch-in-trouble-other-headlines

Lindsay Thomas showing his tough guy side in the VFL on the weekend.

Invertebrate.

Really poor by LT, he'll cop his fair whack - I'd say 3-4 weeks.
This doesn't help his returning to the senior side anytime soon.


Could help his desire to return to Adelaide though
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Re: AFL Round 7

Postby Corona Man » Tue May 09, 2017 12:01 pm

Dutchy wrote:
Spargo wrote:
Booney wrote:http://www.afl.com.au/video/2017-05-09/watch-in-trouble-other-headlines

Lindsay Thomas showing his tough guy side in the VFL on the weekend.

Invertebrate.

Really poor by LT, he'll cop his fair whack - I'd say 3-4 weeks.
This doesn't help his returning to the senior side anytime soon.


Could help his desire to return to Adelaide though

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Re: AFL Round 7

Postby valleys07 » Tue May 09, 2017 12:03 pm

Rumour a couple of weeks ago that he is looking to return to Adelaide to play for Port, as a former magpie junior.
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Re: AFL Round 7

Postby JK » Tue May 09, 2017 12:11 pm

bennymacca wrote:personally i think trying to outlaw the sling tackle is fine by me. happy with stevens and waite getting suspended.

But I do agree that cameron should have got a week. Anything behind the ball and graded as intentional conduct should be a week minimum, no matter what the impact is graded as


I agree with trying to outlaw the sling tackle, but in these two cases:

- Lynch was primed to be dumped due to his balance being out whilst trying to kick the ball in the tackle

- Wilson had a hand free and could have released the ball and used the hand for protection when hitting the ground

As unfortunate as they were, imho, they are aspects that were beyond the control of Waite and Stevens.

All the rule changes in the world are never going to completely eradicate accidental concussions or other forms of injury.
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Re: AFL Round 7

Postby Spargo » Tue May 09, 2017 12:16 pm

JK wrote:
bennymacca wrote:personally i think trying to outlaw the sling tackle is fine by me. happy with stevens and waite getting suspended.

But I do agree that cameron should have got a week. Anything behind the ball and graded as intentional conduct should be a week minimum, no matter what the impact is graded as


I agree with trying to outlaw the sling tackle, but in these two cases:

- Lynch was primed to be dumped due to his balance being out whilst trying to kick the ball in the tackle

- Wilson had a hand free and could have released the ball and used the hand for protection when hitting the ground

As unfortunate as they were, imho, they are aspects that were beyond the control of Waite and Stevens.

All the rule changes in the world are never going to completely eradicate accidental concussions or other forms of injury.

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Re: AFL Round 7

Postby Booney » Tue May 09, 2017 12:37 pm

valleys07 wrote:Rumour a couple of weeks ago that he is looking to return to Adelaide to play for Port, as a former magpie junior.

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Re: AFL Round 7

Postby valleys07 » Tue May 09, 2017 12:40 pm

Booney wrote:
valleys07 wrote:Rumour a couple of weeks ago that he is looking to return to Adelaide to play for Port, as a former magpie junior.

#-o


The positive aspect of this rumour- it came from a credible source, none other than Kane Cornes :lol:
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