Should Australia Day date be changed?

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Should Australia Day date be changed?

Yes
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No
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Re: Should Australia Day date be changed?

Postby Dog_ger2 » Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:10 pm

Voted no.

What was it called before Australia?

Do your research...
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Re: Should Australia Day date be changed?

Postby Spargo » Tue Aug 29, 2017 8:59 pm

Dog_ger2 wrote:What was it called before Australia?

Do your research...


Maybe ask some Aboriginal Elders what they called this land we're so lucky to live on.
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Re: Should Australia Day date be changed?

Postby The Bedge » Fri Sep 01, 2017 11:29 am

Carn people, can't mess with "A great Australian Tradition"

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Re: Should Australia Day date be changed?

Postby The Bedge » Fri Sep 01, 2017 12:00 pm

Leave January 26th as Commemoration of the Arrival of the First Fleet - important to acknowledge the history of the country in my opinion, as bleak as it may be, and ignoring that wont change what has happened. Similar to Remembrance Day.

Create a new date for "Australia Day" - a day for all Australians to celebrate. Introduce new citizens, announce Australians of the year etc. etc... Be inclusive and celebrate diversity and all things good about Australia.
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Re: Should Australia Day date be changed?

Postby FlyingHigh » Fri Sep 01, 2017 1:09 pm

Originally I thought this was only a recent issue stirred up over the last few years by those types who create causes out of something for the sake of doing so even though they're not directly affected.

However on a recent tour through the National Treasures at the Library in Canberra came across a poster advertising a rally against "Invasion Day" on Jan 26, 1938, Australia's 150 years, on Melbourne Parliament, which I never knew about.

If I had to vote now, I'd probably vote for a change.
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Re: Should Australia Day date be changed?

Postby bennymacca » Fri Sep 01, 2017 1:55 pm

Zartan wrote:Leave January 26th as Commemoration of the Arrival of the First Fleet - important to acknowledge the history of the country in my opinion, as bleak as it may be, and ignoring that wont change what has happened. Similar to Remembrance Day.

Create a new date for "Australia Day" - a day for all Australians to celebrate. Introduce new citizens, announce Australians of the year etc. etc... Be inclusive and celebrate diversity and all things good about Australia.


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FlyingHigh wrote:Originally I thought this was only a recent issue stirred up over the last few years by those types who create causes out of something for the sake of doing so even though they're not directly affected.

However on a recent tour through the National Treasures at the Library in Canberra came across a poster advertising a rally against "Invasion Day" on Jan 26, 1938, Australia's 150 years, on Melbourne Parliament, which I never knew about.

If I had to vote now, I'd probably vote for a change.


interesting, didnt know this
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Re: Should Australia Day date be changed?

Postby Pseudo » Fri Sep 01, 2017 2:42 pm

Zartan wrote:Leave January 26th as Commemoration of the Arrival of the First Fleet - important to acknowledge the history of the country in my opinion, as bleak as it may be, and ignoring that wont change what has happened. Similar to Remembrance Day.

Create a new date for "Australia Day" - a day for all Australians to celebrate. Introduce new citizens, announce Australians of the year etc. etc... Be inclusive and celebrate diversity and all things good about Australia.

If we get a public holiday for each day then I'm all for it. 8)
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Re: Should Australia Day date be changed?

Postby Magellan » Fri Sep 01, 2017 2:48 pm

FlyingHigh wrote:However on a recent tour through the National Treasures at the Library in Canberra came across a poster advertising a rally against "Invasion Day" on Jan 26, 1938, Australia's 150 years, on Melbourne Parliament, which I never knew about.

You know what the significance of this is?

Those bleeding heart black arm left wing revisionists have got their hands on a bloody time machine!!!
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Re: Should Australia Day date be changed?

Postby MW » Fri Sep 01, 2017 2:53 pm

No (my answer to the thread title)
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Re: Should Australia Day date be changed?

Postby FlyingHigh » Sat Sep 02, 2017 1:51 pm

Magellan wrote:
FlyingHigh wrote:However on a recent tour through the National Treasures at the Library in Canberra came across a poster advertising a rally against "Invasion Day" on Jan 26, 1938, Australia's 150 years, on Melbourne Parliament, which I never knew about.

You know what the significance of this is?

Those bleeding heart black arm left wing revisionists have got their hands on a bloody time machine!!!

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Re: Should Australia Day date be changed?

Postby RB » Sat Sep 02, 2017 3:24 pm

I've said it before and I'll say it again. 26 January is New South Wales day as that is the day NSW was founded. Has no relevance to the rest of the country, IMO.
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Re: Should Australia Day date be changed?

Postby Wedgie » Sat Sep 02, 2017 4:30 pm

RB wrote:I've said it before and I'll say it again. 26 January is New South Wales day as that is the day NSW was founded. Has no relevance to the rest of the country, IMO.

It was founded tens of thousands before then.
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Re: Should Australia Day date be changed?

Postby Psyber » Sat Sep 02, 2017 4:54 pm

Perhaps we could wait for WA to secede from the Commonwealth and declare "WA Day" as "Wexit Day" there, and the rest of us could call it "(Divided) Australia Day", while we retain the public holiday on "Invasion Day" too.

Seriously, I don't feel strongly about moving or not moving Australia Day.

I used to like the idea of digging a moat around NSW and Victoria and joining WA, NT, SA, and perhaps northern Qld into a new "Western Confederacy of Australia" and celebrating it on " WC Day". (The capital could be Darwin, or the Alice, or maybe Streaky Bay??)
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Re: Should Australia Day date be changed?

Postby RB » Sat Sep 02, 2017 5:42 pm

Wedgie wrote:
RB wrote:I've said it before and I'll say it again. 26 January is New South Wales day as that is the day NSW was founded. Has no relevance to the rest of the country, IMO.

It was founded tens of thousands before then.

It was first settled tens of thousands of years before 1788, but the colony (in a political/legal sense) called New South Wales was founded on 26 January 1788.
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Re: Should Australia Day date be changed?

Postby JK » Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:04 am

I see Marion Council has just rejected a motion to change the date .. Their reasoning (should be a Government decision) seems fair enough. Another plebiscite on it's way???
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Re: Should Australia Day date be changed?

Postby morell » Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:54 am

It really shouldn't be in Local Government's purview to be making that sort of call. There has been enough passing the buck in terms of duties and responsibility from the middle sphere of government to the lowest.

I say this as someone who very strongly thinks the date should be moved, BTW.
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Re: Should Australia Day date be changed?

Postby Dogwatcher » Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:15 am

morell wrote:It really shouldn't be in Local Government's purview to be making that sort of call. There has been enough passing the buck in terms of duties and responsibility from the middle sphere of government to the lowest.

I say this as someone who very strongly thinks the date should be moved, BTW.


Actually, local government has every right to have a say in this debate.
Just about every Australia Day event in this state is organised by a council.
Those free sausages for breakfast and Australia Day awards are organised by councils.
If council doesn't do these events for the community, who does?

I'm not making a judgement on the debate, but local government has significant investment/ownership of the commemorations and should have a say.
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Re: Should Australia Day date be changed?

Postby morell » Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:22 am

Dogwatcher wrote:
morell wrote:It really shouldn't be in Local Government's purview to be making that sort of call. There has been enough passing the buck in terms of duties and responsibility from the middle sphere of government to the lowest.

I say this as someone who very strongly thinks the date should be moved, BTW.


Actually, local government has every right to have a say in this debate.
Just about every Australia Day event in this state is organised by a council.
Those free sausages for breakfast and Australia Day awards are organised by councils.
If council doesn't do these events for the community, who does?

I'm not making a judgement on the debate, but local government has significant investment/ownership of the commemorations and should have a say.
All of which is at the behest of the Federal Government. Local Government are the vehicles, not the policy makers.

There are a myriad of things that Local Government *execute* but have no jurisdiction over. If you want to get technical, 100% of the duties Council's execute are done under the delegation of the State through the Local Government Act.

The rules and regulations get passed down, Councils do the work. For obvious reasons too, Local Government is specifically designed to be focused on local matters, not State, or Federal. They don't have the foresight or resources to be making those sorts of decisions effectively.
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Re: Should Australia Day date be changed?

Postby Booney » Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:27 am

Yeah DW, read the Local Government Act, would you!
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Re: Should Australia Day date be changed?

Postby morell » Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:40 am

Hahaha nah, you don't have to read it, but more people need to understand how the spheres of government work and what their roles are.

Local Government do not make policy - and never should. Minor By Laws the exception.
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