by bennymacca » Mon Sep 18, 2017 1:27 pm
by MW » Mon Sep 18, 2017 1:29 pm
bennymacca wrote:it already has though - you can get married in a civil ceremony without the church anywhere near it
by Booney » Mon Sep 18, 2017 1:32 pm
MW wrote:bennymacca wrote:it already has though - you can get married in a civil ceremony without the church anywhere near it
But can a gay couple get married in a civil ceremony?
Will passing a "yes" vote and making it legal for gays to marry force churches to allow them to marry in a church? Or can churches reject them?
by HH3 » Mon Sep 18, 2017 1:36 pm
by MW » Mon Sep 18, 2017 1:38 pm
Booney wrote:MW wrote:bennymacca wrote:it already has though - you can get married in a civil ceremony without the church anywhere near it
But can a gay couple get married in a civil ceremony?
Will passing a "yes" vote and making it legal for gays to marry force churches to allow them to marry in a church? Or can churches reject them?
Churches will be under no obligation to marry same sex couples.
by woodublieve12 » Mon Sep 18, 2017 1:41 pm
MW wrote:Booney wrote:MW wrote:bennymacca wrote:it already has though - you can get married in a civil ceremony without the church anywhere near it
But can a gay couple get married in a civil ceremony?
Will passing a "yes" vote and making it legal for gays to marry force churches to allow them to marry in a church? Or can churches reject them?
Churches will be under no obligation to marry same sex couples.
This is my point.
Like HH3 said, campaign for the right for 'civil union', not marriage. Like it or not, 'marriage' is a religious act.
by HH3 » Mon Sep 18, 2017 1:47 pm
by Booney » Mon Sep 18, 2017 1:48 pm
by tipper » Mon Sep 18, 2017 1:49 pm
MW wrote:Booney wrote:MW wrote:bennymacca wrote:it already has though - you can get married in a civil ceremony without the church anywhere near it
But can a gay couple get married in a civil ceremony?
Will passing a "yes" vote and making it legal for gays to marry force churches to allow them to marry in a church? Or can churches reject them?
Churches will be under no obligation to marry same sex couples.
This is my point.
Like HH3 said, campaign for the right for 'civil union', not marriage. Like it or not, 'marriage' is a religious act.
by Booney » Mon Sep 18, 2017 1:49 pm
HH3 wrote:WUB, would you be opposed to the law being passed instantly, and it being called a "civil union" with identical legalities as marriage?
Or does it have to be called "marriage" or nothing?
by tipper » Mon Sep 18, 2017 1:51 pm
HH3 wrote:That's another point I've tried to make before. If it's so important to be legally the same, why not campaign for "civil unions (or whatever you want to call them) besides "marriage".
That'd be a much quicker, easier process. With a lot less opposition.
by MW » Mon Sep 18, 2017 1:51 pm
by Booney » Mon Sep 18, 2017 1:52 pm
MW wrote:Yes you are married, that's the way it is set up now.
I don't know what the right or wrong set up is, like I said I will be voting yes.
I'm just trying to work out the best way to get around the 'no' voters who are voting 'no' purely on religious beliefs.
by tipper » Mon Sep 18, 2017 1:53 pm
MW wrote:Yes you are married, that's the way it is set up now.
I don't know what the right or wrong set up is, like I said I will be voting yes.
I'm just trying to work out the best way to get around the 'no' voters who are voting 'no' purely on religious beliefs.
by HH3 » Mon Sep 18, 2017 1:53 pm
Booney wrote:HH3 wrote:WUB, would you be opposed to the law being passed instantly, and it being called a "civil union" with identical legalities as marriage?
Or does it have to be called "marriage" or nothing?
So, Mr and Mr or Mrs and Mrs, you can have the same rights as us but you can't call it the same thing?
I'd be pissed too!
by MW » Mon Sep 18, 2017 1:54 pm
tipper wrote:MW wrote:Yes you are married, that's the way it is set up now.
I don't know what the right or wrong set up is, like I said I will be voting yes.
I'm just trying to work out the best way to get around the 'no' voters who are voting 'no' purely on religious beliefs.
tell them to stop forcing their beliefs onto others. i dont force my beliefs onto them. what makes them think they can do it?
by jakovasaurus » Mon Sep 18, 2017 1:55 pm
by tipper » Mon Sep 18, 2017 1:59 pm
MW wrote:tipper wrote:MW wrote:Yes you are married, that's the way it is set up now.
I don't know what the right or wrong set up is, like I said I will be voting yes.
I'm just trying to work out the best way to get around the 'no' voters who are voting 'no' purely on religious beliefs.
tell them to stop forcing their beliefs onto others. i dont force my beliefs onto them. what makes them think they can do it?
You're kidding aren't you?
The biggest voice in this whole campaign is how pathetic 'no' voters are.
by tipper » Mon Sep 18, 2017 2:03 pm
MW wrote:I say again, you're kidding aren't you?
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