The Positives vs The Negatives of websites on SANFL clubs

[Pseudo]

I wish more SANFL clubs had the balls to say exactly what they think and show some passion and pride for their colours instead of allowing their guernsey and club in general to be the doormat of any AFL club that wishes it.

If Glenelg was the doormat of an AFL club, Ryan Willetts would currently be playing CHF in the league team.

[BPBRB]

Some of you people who criticise the North website for public comment should get the chance to sit with your club CEO's and you might find out that many of the views North are publically expressing are the same views / opinions / criticisms other clubs have behind closed doors but sadly other clubs just won't come out and say it. I wonder why that is?

Because they know they can't say it as succinctly, or with the same levels of intelligence and wit, as the posters on the Roost?

I only wish they would let us publically comment!

[Hondo]

Well, the NAFC website is the most talked about web-site in the league and any publicity is good publicity, some would say

And it is a great website to use - well done to all involved down there in putting it together and running it

[pipers]

Some of you people who criticise the North website for public comment should get the chance to sit with your club CEO's and you might find out that many of the views North are publically expressing are the same views / opinions / criticisms other clubs have behind closed doors but sadly other clubs just won't come out and say it. I wonder why that is?

Because NAFC love to air their dirty laundry in public???

[pipers]

btw - the Norwood forum made for some interesting reading last week. Strenuously denying that players were leaving the club. Then when a player left the club it got really, really interesting.

The CEO or some other high-flatulent type even waded in...

[Jimmy]

i wish the sturt official site got updated more. we keep being told it will but i think since undergoing its new do, that might happen.

[JK]

I went to the Norwood site the other day to follow up some further info on one of their players, went to the players page and am confronted by 53 missing photos, I think to myself, fair enough, unprofessional but I'll click on the link to the player I want, then I get the message "Not Found
The requested URL /profiles/profile_4**.htm was not found on this server."
Its nearly the end of August!!!!
This is quite simply pathetic, it wouldn't be hard to find a volunteer if they're not prepared to update it themselves, christ, they have 5 million dollars in the bank, they could hire a team of IT people.
Just not good enough in this day and age Im afraid and does reflect poorly on the entire club IMHO.

Wedgie, can't disagree with anything you've said there, it isn't good enough and plants many a seed of doubt in supporters minds as to what else might be getting done half heartedly.

I will say though, that I believe the club is in the process of re-launching the site, so perhaps thats a partial explaination of why some of the information, particularly on old links, might be missing.

[Aerie]

Some of you people who criticise the North website for public comment should get the chance to sit with your club CEO's and you might find out that many of the views North are publically expressing are the same views / opinions / criticisms other clubs have behind closed doors but sadly other clubs just won't come out and say it. I wonder why that is?

Why is that? That's sort of what I'm getting at. Maybe other clubs don't see the web as a forum for discussing these issues? Are these issues raised by other clubs at SANFL meetings etc.?

Either way, as hondo71 says, any publicity is good publicity and the interest generated would turn to hits which would turn to more chances for sponsorship and more chances for membership.

[topsywaldron]

btw - the Norwood forum made for some interesting reading last week. Strenuously denying that players were leaving the club. Then when a player left the club it got really, really interesting.

The CEO or some other high-flatulent type even waded in...

The punk rock child is obviously sleeping well if you've got the time, or indeed the inclination, to read the ever cheerful Norwood forum.

And to think I thought you were happy with LeCras at CHF.

Will you be there on Saturday Fatal?

[topsywaldron]

I went to the Norwood site the other day to follow up some further info on one of their players, went to the players page and am confronted by 53 missing photos, I think to myself, fair enough, unprofessional but I'll click on the link to the player I want, then I get the message "Not Found
The requested URL /profiles/profile_4**.htm was not found on this server."
Its nearly the end of August!!!!
This is quite simply pathetic, it wouldn't be hard to find a volunteer if they're not prepared to update it themselves, christ, they have 5 million dollars in the bank, they could hire a team of IT people.
Just not good enough in this day and age Im afraid and does reflect poorly on the entire club IMHO.

Sounding more like Campbell all the time Wedgie.

I would have thought you were the last person to critcise a site for server issues!

[BPBRB]

Some of you people who criticise the North website for public comment should get the chance to sit with your club CEO's and you might find out that many of the views North are publically expressing are the same views / opinions / criticisms other clubs have behind closed doors but sadly other clubs just won't come out and say it. I wonder why that is?

Why is that? That's sort of what I'm getting at. Maybe other clubs don't see the web as a forum for discussing these issues? Are these issues raised by other clubs at SANFL meetings etc.?

Either way, as hondo71 says, any publicity is good publicity and the interest generated would turn to hits which would turn to more chances for sponsorship and more chances for membership.

A bit more of a united front from some of the other clubs and public comment might actually move or should I say force the SANFL to making some changes and being progressive for our comp and not just do what is "hip" as dictated by the AFL.

One day when the majority of SANFL clubs are financially independant and strong and not having to rely on the AFL dividend, we may see some clubs find their "balls" and be more vocal. Whilst the league holds that gun at the SANFL clubs many will remain silent even though they don't agree with many policies and directions the SANFL is taking.

A couple of agenda's that need looking at short term are:

1. Disband 17's and 19's and form U18's.
2. Salary Cap ceiling definately needs revisiting for two reasons, keeping our league ahead of the VFL, Vic Country Leagues and the WAFL and also to allow the clubs to retain Senior listed players in the ressies on better payments than 98% are on presently. The number of players who leave all clubs for better local or country money is a joke. They train as much as any other contracted SANFL player and should receive some reward or incentive. If it is not raised significantly you can expect some more creative accounting practices to be developed by all clubs!
3. Looking at the longer term retention of crowd numbers - how do we get today's youngsters 5-15 age group who go each week (many forced by parents or have no choice) to continue to go when they get to 16 yrs of age and beyond in the face of more attactive leisure activities or more "in" things to follow - e.g. the AFL

[Wedgie]

I went to the Norwood site the other day to follow up some further info on one of their players, went to the players page and am confronted by 53 missing photos, I think to myself, fair enough, unprofessional but I'll click on the link to the player I want, then I get the message "Not Found
The requested URL /profiles/profile_4**.htm was not found on this server."
Its nearly the end of August!!!!
This is quite simply pathetic, it wouldn't be hard to find a volunteer if they're not prepared to update it themselves, christ, they have 5 million dollars in the bank, they could hire a team of IT people.
Just not good enough in this day and age Im afraid and does reflect poorly on the entire club IMHO.

Sounding more like Campbell all the time Wedgie.

I would have thought you were the last person to critcise a site for server issues!

There's a huge difference between bropken links, missing images and missing web pages and server issues unless its housed on a magical server but even if that was the case it would take 10 mins and 10 dollars to move to a non magical server. Good to hear a re-launch will be happening soon though justin time for cricket season.

[rod_rooster]

I went to the Norwood site the other day to follow up some further info on one of their players, went to the players page and am confronted by 53 missing photos, I think to myself, fair enough, unprofessional but I'll click on the link to the player I want, then I get the message "Not Found
The requested URL /profiles/profile_4**.htm was not found on this server."
Its nearly the end of August!!!!
This is quite simply pathetic, it wouldn't be hard to find a volunteer if they're not prepared to update it themselves, christ, they have 5 million dollars in the bank, they could hire a team of IT people.
Just not good enough in this day and age Im afraid and does reflect poorly on the entire club IMHO.

Sounding more like Campbell all the time Wedgie.

I would have thought you were the last person to critcise a site for server issues!

The issue isn't with the server the issue is that the content hasn't be put on the server.

[JK]

Some of you people who criticise the North website for public comment should get the chance to sit with your club CEO's and you might find out that many of the views North are publically expressing are the same views / opinions / criticisms other clubs have behind closed doors but sadly other clubs just won't come out and say it. I wonder why that is?

Why is that? That's sort of what I'm getting at. Maybe other clubs don't see the web as a forum for discussing these issues? Are these issues raised by other clubs at SANFL meetings etc.?

Either way, as hondo71 says, any publicity is good publicity and the interest generated would turn to hits which would turn to more chances for sponsorship and more chances for membership.

A bit more of a united front from some of the other clubs and public comment might actually move or should I say force the SANFL to making some changes and being progressive for our comp and not just do what is "hip" as dictated by the AFL.

One day when the majority of SANFL clubs are financially independant and strong and not having to rely on the AFL dividend, we may see some clubs find their "balls" and be more vocal. Whilst the league holds that gun at the SANFL clubs many will remain silent even though they don't agree with many policies and directions the SANFL is taking.

A couple of agenda's that need looking at short term are:

1. Disband 17's and 19's and form U18's.
2. Salary Cap ceiling definately needs revisiting for two reasons, keeping our league ahead of the VFL, Vic Country Leagues and the WAFL and also to allow the clubs to retain Senior listed players in the ressies on better payments than 98% are on presently. The number of players who leave all clubs for better local or country money is a joke. They train as much as any other contracted SANFL player and should receive some reward or incentive. If it is not raised significantly you can expect some more creative accounting practices to be developed by all clubs!
3. Looking at the longer term retention of crowd numbers - how do we get today's youngsters 5-15 age group who go each week (many forced by parents or have no choice) to continue to go when they get to 16 yrs of age and beyond in the face of more attactive leisure activities or more "in" things to follow - e.g. the AFL

Interesting post Drebin ... I was just thinking this morning whether we could ever reach a stage whereby the clubs were all financial enough, to move away from the SANFL body as such and create a new league, with a new governing body appointed by the clubs? Effectively it wouldn't change anything significantly onfield where things would remain pretty much as they are, but this new body wouldn't have to concern themselves as much with the performance of the 2 state based AFL sides and as such would pay more than just the lip service toward the SANFL comp that the current governing body appears to.

All pie in the sky, but could it ever become a reality?

[BPBRB]

CP, don't worry it is closer than many would think - although not a breakaway as such more self governing and planning the way the clubs want rather than always playing second fiddle to AFL needs despite what Whicker and Co. might preach.

[zipzap]

i wish the sturt official site got updated more. we keep being told it will but i think since undergoing its new do, that might happen.

But it does look great with the new updates, finally. The regular email updates and 'shouts' have been great this year.

[Sojourner]

CP, don't worry it is closer than many would think - although not a breakaway as such more self governing and planning the way the clubs want rather than always playing second fiddle to AFL needs despite what Whicker and Co. might preach.

Imagine where we might be today if when the pokies were introduced into SA that a law was made to say that only the SANFL clubs could run them, as was the case with the leauges clubs in the NRL. The SANFL and the AFL might then have some interesting times!

[pipers]

The punk rock child is obviously sleeping well if you've got the time, or indeed the inclination, to read the ever cheerful Norwood forum.

And to think I thought you were happy with LeCras at CHF.

Will you be there on Saturday Fatal?

I will. With little Johnny and the missus in tow too...

Bowls club. Right in the pocket. Near a bloke with a bike.

[Squawk]

Well, the NAFC website is the most talked about web-site in the league and any publicity is good publicity, some would say

And it is a great website to use - well done to all involved down there in putting it together and running it

There is a lot of mention made about the websites of both North and Central but I think that the Port Magpies site is pretty damn good. Looks good and has a lot of info without the need for too much scrolling and seems to have regular updates.

North and Central are not far behind Port though imho.

[pipers]

There is a lot of mention made about the websites of both North and Central but I think that the Port Magpies site is pretty damn good. Looks good and has a lot of info without the need for too much scrolling and seems to have regular updates.

North and Central are not far behind Port though imho.

It is OK. Could be a bit more "interactive" and perhaps have more direct input from coaching and playing staff, rather than the office staff, but it has certainly improved over the past 12 months or so.