Australia Domestic Season 2017/18

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Re: Australia Domestic Season 2017/18

Postby The Bedge » Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:37 pm

Eagles2014 wrote:
The Bedge wrote:100 to Ferg


Cue WHUFC.................oh wait, we only hear from him when Ferg fails!

No, we do sometimes here when he performs in the 2nd innings as he has here haha.. 2nd innings specialist remember ;)
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Re: Australia Domestic Season 2017/18

Postby The Bedge » Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:46 pm

200 partnership now up.

SA 3/259 lead by 236 runs.

Ferguson 127* (157)
Lehmann 87* (131)
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Re: Australia Domestic Season 2017/18

Postby The Bedge » Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:59 pm

Lehmann out trying to go big, top edge straight up, out for 93 (143).

SA 4/271

Lead by 248 runs, Ferguson 133*.
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Re: Australia Domestic Season 2017/18

Postby RB » Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:55 pm

I notice that Patterson of NSW is making runs. Has a pretty decent record and rarely goes more than one game without a decent score. Has to be considered a chance for higher honours in the next year or so.

Speaking of the NSW team, I find it unfathomable that the leading run-scorer for the Shield last year doesn't get a game, especially behind spuds like Maddinson.
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Re: Australia Domestic Season 2017/18

Postby Eagles2014 » Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:56 pm

The Bedge wrote:
Eagles2014 wrote:
The Bedge wrote:100 to Ferg


Cue WHUFC.................oh wait, we only hear from him when Ferg fails!

No, we do sometimes here when he performs in the 2nd innings as he has here haha.. 2nd innings specialist remember ;)


Don't know about that - he is definitely more consistent than Travis Head!!

And you cant say he was not under pressure in second innings, team at 3/50 with lead of under 30, and game (and season nearly) just about shot!

Ferg to the rescue yet again!
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Re: Australia Domestic Season 2017/18

Postby Tony Clifton » Mon Nov 06, 2017 6:08 pm

275 ahead at stumps, five down. When to declare?
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Re: Australia Domestic Season 2017/18

Postby whufc » Mon Nov 06, 2017 8:04 pm

Ferguson will hold his spot for the next ten years now

Fair play though, it sounds like a great innings and what we should be seeing from our most experience bat
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Re: Australia Domestic Season 2017/18

Postby whufc » Mon Nov 06, 2017 8:14 pm

am Bays wrote:
whufc wrote:Problem is who does Sayers play ahead, certainly not Starc or Hazelwood.

Comes down to Cummins, Sayers, Bird for the 3 bowling spot

Cummins is 'the future', in good form and arguably the world best number 9 bat (his batting probably gets him across the line based on the evenings of the other attributes.

Bird is in reasonable form as well took 6 wickets in the first shield game and 3/41 in the first innings of the second shield game, has a test bowling average of 27 and was arguably and took 6 wickets at the GABBA test last year.

In saying that I would almost take a risk and go

Warner
Renshaw
Khawaja
Smith
Handscombe (wk)
Maxwell
Starc
Cummins
Hazelwood
Lyon
Sayers


Please dont ever EVER EVER downplay the role of the wicket keeper by advocating having a part timer keep wickets for Australia, especially a batsman who is yet to establish himself in the test side.

We need runs to bowl at so we need six batters then a keeper and four bowlers.

If we cant get 20 wicket a test with Starc, Hazelwood and Cummins, then there is something wrong.

If we are worried about back to back test matches and bowlers workload we are fortunate that a back up bowling line up of Bird, Coulter-Nile and Sayers is test quality so we can rotate in and out of test matches if necessary.

Feck me, Bherendorf, Tremain and even Abbott could play and it would be better than most test attacks.

One of Wade, Neville or Carey, probably Neville, has to play.


I definitely agree if we couldn't bowl a side out with Starc, Hazelwood, Lyon and whoever we probably don't deserve to win a test.

The batsmen keeper / keeper batsmen has been the 'cricket debate' of this millennium.

Honest answer is, I don't know where I stand on the issue. A keeper could take that 'one oppurtunity' that another may not have and save you 100 runs. In saying that you don't pick specialist slippers who can't bat because they may take a couple of chances that come.

Realistically most international keepers will all take the 9/10 chances that come, it that one chance though that's make or break.

Having never kept a day in my life I feel like sub continent conditions most definitely require your best keeper to spin bowling over a batsmen, where Australian conditions are as 'keeper friendly' as you will find anywhere

Would also depend on your team balance, Australia is probably in a luxurious position at the moment with Starc and Cummins at 8 and 9 that a 'batting keeper' is less crucial as there is still some depth to come, that may not be the case if your bottom four were Sayers, Bird, Hazelwood, Lyon

If I was a selector I think it would be easier to find and identify the better 'batter' than it would be to identify a better keeper (unless we are comparing Wade to anyone)

This post is about as clear minded as my thoughts on the matter 'not a lot' lol
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Re: Australia Domestic Season 2017/18

Postby The Dark Knight » Mon Nov 06, 2017 8:30 pm

RB wrote:I notice that Patterson of NSW is making runs. Has a pretty decent record and rarely goes more than one game without a decent score. Has to be considered a chance for higher honours in the next year or so.

Speaking of the NSW team, I find it unfathomable that the leading run-scorer for the Shield last year doesn't get a game, especially behind spuds like Maddinson.

Patterson should of debuted for Australia last summer instead of Nic Maddinson.

And yes it's a disgrace that Maddinson, who isn't even a genuine opening batsman gets a free ride in front of Ed Cowan.
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Re: Australia Domestic Season 2017/18

Postby The Dark Knight » Mon Nov 06, 2017 10:22 pm

Queensland defeat Tasmiana by 7 wickets.
TAS 150
Doolan 58
Feldman 5/31

QLD second innings 3/158
Burns 70
Khawaja 28 not out

NSW v WA, stumps day three.
WA first innings 176
Bancroft 76 not out
Turner 52
Starc 4/56
Hazlewood 3/24

NSW second innings 2/166, lead by 260
Smith 74 not out
Patterson 60 not out
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Re: Australia Domestic Season 2017/18

Postby Coach Bombay » Tue Nov 07, 2017 10:32 am

time to declare?
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Re: Australia Domestic Season 2017/18

Postby locky801 » Tue Nov 07, 2017 10:44 am

Coach Bombay wrote:time to declare?


324 in front, they should, need time to knock this mob over
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Re: Australia Domestic Season 2017/18

Postby The Bedge » Tue Nov 07, 2017 10:48 am

locky801 wrote:
Coach Bombay wrote:time to declare?


324 in front, they should, need time to knock this mob over

Also want to ensure we don't give them a total they can reach and risk losing.
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Re: Australia Domestic Season 2017/18

Postby The Bedge » Tue Nov 07, 2017 10:50 am

That was the most dour wicket I've ever seen haha! I was trying to work out if Zampa had actually hit it for a catch or not, just no reaction whatsoever from anyone haha!
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Re: Australia Domestic Season 2017/18

Postby The Bedge » Tue Nov 07, 2017 10:56 am

Tony Clifton wrote:275 ahead at stumps, five down. When to declare?

Declaration comes, SA 8/370 lead by 347 runs.

Ferguson 182*

Should give us the best part of 70 overs to bowl them out.
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Re: Australia Domestic Season 2017/18

Postby helicopterking » Tue Nov 07, 2017 10:58 am

Ferguson =D>
Conditions should suit our bowlers early.
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Re: Australia Domestic Season 2017/18

Postby DOC » Tue Nov 07, 2017 11:08 am

Declared at 8/370 Ferg 182 not out.

Vics chasing 348 off 81

Bowl them out
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Re: Australia Domestic Season 2017/18

Postby Jack » Tue Nov 07, 2017 11:36 am

Strange declaration by Steve Smith ?
Batting into day 4, New South Wales have set Western Australia a target of 395
Is that enough with an attack of Starc, Hazelwood,Cummins, Lyon ? ;)
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Re: Australia Domestic Season 2017/18

Postby DOC » Tue Nov 07, 2017 11:53 am

Mennie gets the first. 1/28 11th over
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Re: Australia Domestic Season 2017/18

Postby The Dark Knight » Tue Nov 07, 2017 12:06 pm

Come on you Redbacks!
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