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Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Thu Sep 06, 2007 3:30 pm

just heard on the radio that Pavarotti may be dead.

anyone know????????
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Re: PAVAROTTI

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Re: PAVAROTTI

Postby Aerie » Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:21 pm

Who moved this thread from General Discussion to Entertainment? Not very nice! :lol:
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Re: PAVAROTTI

Postby am Bays » Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:23 pm

Aerie wrote:Who moved this thread from General Discussion to Entertainment? Not very nice! :lol:


Didn't think it needed an explanation :wink:
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Re: PAVAROTTI

Postby bayman » Thu Sep 06, 2007 7:02 pm

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Re: PAVAROTTI

Postby Aerie » Thu Sep 06, 2007 7:15 pm

1980 Tassie Medalist wrote:
Aerie wrote:Who moved this thread from General Discussion to Entertainment? Not very nice! :lol:


Didn't think it needed an explanation :wink:


I just wouldn't class a topic on his death as entertainment, that's all...
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Re: PAVAROTTI

Postby RustyCage » Thu Sep 06, 2007 7:18 pm

Aerie wrote:
1980 Tassie Medalist wrote:
Aerie wrote:Who moved this thread from General Discussion to Entertainment? Not very nice! :lol:


Didn't think it needed an explanation :wink:


I just wouldn't class a topic on his death as entertainment, that's all...


Its entertainment news
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Re: PAVAROTTI

Postby am Bays » Thu Sep 06, 2007 7:27 pm

pafc1870 wrote:
Aerie wrote:
1980 Tassie Medalist wrote:
Aerie wrote:Who moved this thread from General Discussion to Entertainment? Not very nice! :lol:


Didn't think it needed an explanation :wink:


I just wouldn't class a topic on his death as entertainment, that's all...


Its entertainment news


Like other entertainment deaths covered on this forum...
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Re: PAVAROTTI

Postby Psyber » Thu Sep 06, 2007 10:19 pm

1980 Tassie Medalist wrote: Like other entertainment deaths covered on this forum...

I'm not sure I'd degrade classical music and classical musicians by calling it "Entertainment". It's like putting Renoir or van Gogh under that topic. I support the poster who chose to put it under "General Discussion".
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Re: PAVAROTTI

Postby rod_rooster » Thu Sep 06, 2007 10:28 pm

Psyber wrote:
1980 Tassie Medalist wrote: Like other entertainment deaths covered on this forum...

I'm not sure I'd degrade classical music and classical musicians by calling it "Entertainment". It's like putting Renoir or van Gogh under that topic. I support the poster who chose to put it under "General Discussion".


Is music and art not a form of entertainment? What else is it's purpose?

RIP Luciano Pavarotti. A brilliant tenor who provided entertainment to millions.
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Re: PAVAROTTI

Postby am Bays » Thu Sep 06, 2007 10:56 pm

Psyber wrote:
1980 Tassie Medalist wrote: Like other entertainment deaths covered on this forum...

I'm not sure I'd degrade classical music and classical musicians by calling it "Entertainment". It's like putting Renoir or van Gogh under that topic. I support the poster who chose to put it under "General Discussion".


150 years ago you can see Great Great Great Psyber on his keyboard typing....."yes this modern romantic era stuff of Bizet, Chopin, Tchichovsky and shubert isn't entertainment...just modern era flash in the pan stuff that just wont last... And don't get me started on the mass produced pop culture entertainment (Gilbert and Sullivan) that passes as Opera....."
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Re: PAVAROTTI

Postby therisingblues » Fri Sep 07, 2007 12:36 am

I have a couple of smart remarks up my sleeve for you there Tassie, but I don't mean to disrespect the man; Pavarotti.
He definitley lifted the pofile of Opera and classical music, he will surely be missed beyond the sphere of those genres.
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Re: PAVAROTTI

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Fri Sep 07, 2007 5:15 am

didnt mean to start WWIII and have more casualties!!!!!!!
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Re: PAVAROTTI

Postby Stumps » Fri Sep 07, 2007 9:13 am

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ONUCPKdGcrk

Pavarotti singing Nessun Dorma, Im not a huge fan of Opera but this amazing!!
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Re: PAVAROTTI

Postby therisingblues » Fri Sep 07, 2007 1:40 pm

I think I'd better clarify my above post. I didn't mean to be having a crack at Tassie, rather, I was amused by his response to Psyber, and had a couple of cracks to continue his theme. I thought I'd better not out of respect for the thread, but perhaps my introduction was badly worded.
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Postby Punk Rooster » Fri Sep 07, 2007 4:10 pm

mighty_tiger_79 wrote:didnt mean to start WWIII and have more casualties!!!!!!!

They better not read Best Jokes on pg 59 then!!!!
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Re: PAVAROTTI

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Fri Sep 07, 2007 4:24 pm

Punk Rooster wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:didnt mean to start WWIII and have more casualties!!!!!!!

They better not read Best Jokes on pg 59 then!!!!



was that PAGE 59 of the BEST JOKES THREAD????????
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Re: PAVAROTTI

Postby Psyber » Sat Sep 08, 2007 1:05 pm

rod_rooster wrote:
Psyber wrote:
1980 Tassie Medalist wrote: Like other entertainment deaths covered on this forum...

I'm not sure I'd degrade classical music and classical musicians by calling it "Entertainment". It's like putting Renoir or van Gogh under that topic. I support the poster who chose to put it under "General Discussion".


Is music and art not a form of entertainment? What else is it's purpose?

RIP Luciano Pavarotti. A brilliant tenor who provided entertainment to millions.

I guess I tend to see "Entertainment" as the light empty-time filling stuff like TV, computer games, and, yes, pop music, whereas I see classical music as more allied to classical art. I see their purpose as growth, education, aspiration, and enlightenment, as well as the development and demonstration of the artists outstanding technical skills.

I also see "modern art" as the equivalent of Muzak, as a lot of it seems to be "clever" ideas without a lot of technical skill. Pop music tends to be the same - a lot of the singers can't actually hold a note cleanly, but warble around the mark. I have an old vinyl LP that includes a track of Mick Jagger singing "Wild Colonial Boy" a capella - he really shouldn't be allowed out of a recording studio unmuzzled and unprocessed by the mixer! Singer no, entertainer yes!

I have an acquaintance who is an expert/lecturer in English Literature who says nothing good has been written since the 14th century. While I have read Chaucer in Old English, and some ancient writers in Latin, I am not that extreme. :wink:
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Re: PAVAROTTI

Postby Psyber » Sat Sep 08, 2007 1:13 pm

1980 Tassie Medalist wrote:
Psyber wrote:
1980 Tassie Medalist wrote: Like other entertainment deaths covered on this forum...

I'm not sure I'd degrade classical music and classical musicians by calling it "Entertainment". It's like putting Renoir or van Gogh under that topic. I support the poster who chose to put it under "General Discussion".


150 years ago you can see Great Great Great Psyber on his keyboard typing....."yes this modern romantic era stuff of Bizet, Chopin, Tchichovsky and shubert isn't entertainment...just modern era flash in the pan stuff that just wont last... And don't get me started on the mass produced pop culture entertainment (Gilbert and Sullivan) that passes as Opera....."

Actually, Bizet, Chopin, and Schubert, were very "pop-star" in their time and their popularity waned, and Wagner and Mozart got away with appalling behaviour because of their "star" status and popularity. I do like Tchaikovsky for the adventurousness and skill of his orchestration, and I am actually rather fond of the fun of Gilbert and Sullivan. At the same time I suppose asked to name my favourite musicians I'd have to go for Vivaldi, followed by Haydn, Handel, Bach, then Mozart! Leopold Wolfy's dad, and Strauss senior are not bad either.

Then we can move to classical Indian Raga of which I am fond too, and traditional Jazz.
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Re: PAVAROTTI

Postby rod_rooster » Sat Sep 08, 2007 1:27 pm

Psyber wrote:
rod_rooster wrote:
Psyber wrote:
1980 Tassie Medalist wrote: Like other entertainment deaths covered on this forum...

I'm not sure I'd degrade classical music and classical musicians by calling it "Entertainment". It's like putting Renoir or van Gogh under that topic. I support the poster who chose to put it under "General Discussion".


Is music and art not a form of entertainment? What else is it's purpose?

RIP Luciano Pavarotti. A brilliant tenor who provided entertainment to millions.

I guess I tend to see "Entertainment" as the light empty-time filling stuff like TV, computer games, and, yes, pop music, whereas I see classical music as more allied to classical art. I see their purpose as growth, education, aspiration, and enlightenment, as well as the development and demonstration of the artists outstanding technical skills.

I also see "modern art" as the equivalent of Muzak, as a lot of it seems to be "clever" ideas without a lot of technical skill. Pop music tends to be the same - a lot of the singers can't actually hold a note cleanly, but warble around the mark. I have an old vinyl LP that includes a track of Mick Jagger singing "Wild Colonial Boy" a capella - he really shouldn't be allowed out of a recording studio unmuzzled and unprocessed by the mixer! Singer no, entertainer yes!

I have an acquaintance who is an expert/lecturer in English Literature who says nothing good has been written since the 14th century. While I have read Chaucer in Old English, and some ancient writers in Latin, I am not that extreme. :wink:


Fair enough. Bit over the top but you are entitled to your opinion as am i.
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