2018/19 Australian Summer of cricket

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Re: 2018/19 Australian Summer of cricket

Postby Corona Man » Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:41 am

I didn’t catch all of it, but I think I heard that India keep their younger players out of T/20 cricket.

Here’s an idea. Make T/20 for over 25 players only.

Then we gather up the best 30 or so players under 25 and play some 4 day cricket during the BBL stuff. Get some good former players and coaches around them. Perhaps we can develop some decent test players that way?
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Re: 2018/19 Australian Summer of cricket

Postby heater31 » Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:54 am

Corona Man wrote:I didn’t catch all of it, but I think I heard that India keep their younger players out of T/20 cricket.


Not true at all!

There is only 8 IPL teams......37 First Class teams. By Default there are a lot of players under 25 that miss out.


For example Chennai Super Kings have 5 Indian players under the age of 25 on their list.
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Re: 2018/19 Australian Summer of cricket

Postby Armchair expert » Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:58 am

Bad idea to make t20 for those over 25, any 18 year old that has a decision to make footy or cricket is going to chose footy every time.
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Re: 2018/19 Australian Summer of cricket

Postby The Bedge » Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:02 am

heater31 wrote:There is only 8 IPL teams......37 First Class teams..

There you go!

Where as we have 6x domestic sides and 8x BBL sides.

IPL - Max 8 overseas players
BBL - Max 2 overseas players

IPL - April to May.. 4 months after the Ranji Trophy finishes.
BBL - Dec to Feb.. smack bang in the middle of the Shield season.

Not only are they scheduling their competition at a time that doesn't impact red ball cricket, but they're ensuring the competition isn't over saturated with teams and diluting the competitions, and drawing from countries to top up more of their squads - which in turn draws players away from their own country or ambitions to play longer format i.e. West Indies players.
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Re: 2018/19 Australian Summer of cricket

Postby The Bedge » Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:07 am

If the BBL followed a similar setup to the IPL, they could still operate the competition during these months while still having the SS season going.

Drop back a couple of teams.
Drop back number of games.
Increase overseas players allowed.
Include more rookies in squads from grade cricket setups.
Allow replacement players for U/A players.
Continue to play games on these "boutique" stadiums instead of the main grounds.

If players aren't scheduled in a shield game when their franchise is playing then yeah sure let them play.
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Re: 2018/19 Australian Summer of cricket

Postby Trader » Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:09 am

Interesting that an Aussie player steps up from one of 6 state teams to the national level, and that is considered a huge jump, yet an indian kid goes from playing in a 37 team comp, straight into test cricket and hardly notices a difference.

I would have thought they'd have to have a comp between 37 and the national side.
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Re: 2018/19 Australian Summer of cricket

Postby heater31 » Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:09 am

The Bedge wrote:
heater31 wrote:There is only 8 IPL teams......37 First Class teams..

There you go!

Where as we have 6x domestic sides and 8x BBL sides.

IPL - Max 8 overseas players
BBL - Max 2 overseas players

IPL - April to May.. 4 months after the Ranji Trophy finishes.
BBL - Dec to Feb.. smack bang in the middle of the Shield season.

Not only are they scheduling their competition at a time that doesn't impact red ball cricket, but they're ensuring the competition isn't over saturated with teams and diluting the competitions, and drawing from countries to top up more of their squads - which in turn draws players away from their own country or ambitions to play longer format i.e. West Indies players.



Further Strengthens the argument that the BBL is nothing but a money grabbing failure by Cricket Australia. Get rid of it and take it back to the State v State like the shield. Don't see the issue with 10 games each home and away from around December 15 onwards and back to the Shield by mid January.
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Re: 2018/19 Australian Summer of cricket

Postby The Bedge » Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:10 am

Trader wrote:Interesting that an Aussie player steps up from one of 6 state teams to the national level, and that is considered a huge jump, yet an indian kid goes from playing in a 37 team comp, straight into test cricket and hardly notices a difference.

I would have thought they'd have to have a comp between 37 and the national side.

Fair population difference between India and Australia though lol.
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Re: 2018/19 Australian Summer of cricket

Postby heater31 » Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:13 am

Trader wrote:Interesting that an Aussie player steps up from one of 6 state teams to the national level, and that is considered a huge jump, yet an indian kid goes from playing in a 37 team comp, straight into test cricket and hardly notices a difference.

I would have thought they'd have to have a comp between 37 and the national side.



This season is the first with 37 teams. Play a round robin format at the first stage then you progress to a knockout format. This would produce a more intense game sense the further you progress.
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Re: 2018/19 Australian Summer of cricket

Postby Senor Moto Gadili » Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:57 am

Hmmm .... I'm not sure Vihani hit that
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Re: 2018/19 Australian Summer of cricket

Postby DOC » Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:58 am

5 down. Rip into them FFS.
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Re: 2018/19 Australian Summer of cricket

Postby Armchair expert » Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:58 am

Think we got lucky there
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Re: 2018/19 Australian Summer of cricket

Postby Q. » Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:16 am

Geez, that sounded like a massive edge
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Re: 2018/19 Australian Summer of cricket

Postby locky801 » Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:27 am

robranisgod wrote:
Booney wrote:
northerner wrote:
Armchair expert wrote:Pujara batting for the draw

Test match batting... a lost art.


I'd kill to have a #3 like Pujara. He's been nothing short of brilliant.


Technically perfect. Has just about the best forward defence I have ever seen. He plays test cricket as I think it is meant to be played. His placement is equisite. I don't think he is ever boring. In the test in Adelaide when everyone was playing T20 shots around him, he was on 11 for seemingly ever, but he steadied the innings and was instrumental in winning the match. I wish Australia's players would observe how he plays and try to mimic him.


Listening to them discuss him on the ABC, he was making triple tons at the age of 13, his first was 306 no made in over 9 hours. They laughed about it saying that in Aust now kids that age playing wouldnt have ever batted that long combined as they can only make 20 or retire after 20 balls faced. Maybe there lays some of our problems
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Re: 2018/19 Australian Summer of cricket

Postby DOC » Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:34 am

Its probably a time limit as we don't want to keep score do we. There are no losers kids.
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Re: 2018/19 Australian Summer of cricket

Postby PatowalongaPirate » Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:33 pm

The return of veterans Peter Siddle, Nathan Lyon and Usman Khawaja headline Australia's 14-man revamped squad for the upcoming three-match Gillette ODI Series against India.

Batsmen Travis Head, Chris Lynn, D'Arcy Short and Ben McDermott and allrounder Ashton Agar have all been omitted, with the Test trio of Mitch Starc, Josh Hazlewood and Pat Cummins ordered to rest.

Fast bowler Nathan Coulter-Nile has been left out after suffering lower back soreness recently.

Only skipper Aaron Finch, vice-captain Alex Carey, Shaun Marsh, Glenn Maxwell, Marcus Stoinis and Adam Zampa have survived.

Australia ODI squad: Aaron Finch (c), Jason Behrendorff, Alex Carey (wk), Peter Handscomb, Usman Khawaja, Nathan Lyon, Mitch Marsh, Shaun Marsh, Glenn Maxwell, Jhye Richardson, Peter Siddle, Billy Stanlake, Marcus Stoinis, Adam Zampa
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Re: 2018/19 Australian Summer of cricket

Postby The Bedge » Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:52 pm

I know Head had has a tough time of it of late, but unlucky to miss in the ODI squad - he's the second highest run scorer over the past two years, and i'm sure he didn't ask to move up and fill the opener void, would've been happy middle order.

Pretty clear Handscomb has been picked off his one BBL innings this year - his ODI and ODD record is pretty ordinary.
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Re: 2018/19 Australian Summer of cricket

Postby Armchair expert » Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:57 pm

Is it just me or do our bats never just pad the ball away like Pujura, ours would just play everything with the bat.
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Re: 2018/19 Australian Summer of cricket

Postby RB » Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:07 pm

And a drop.
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Re: 2018/19 Australian Summer of cricket

Postby stan » Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:07 pm

****. Tough chance but had to hold that.
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