2018/19 Australian Summer of cricket

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Re: 2018/19 Australian Summer of cricket

Postby The Bedge » Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:45 am

Yeah I think as a nation we have over reacted with Warner & Smith.. I don't like Warner never have, and would be happy if he never played again, but fairs fair here they've done the (excessive) time for their crimes.. Look at all these other nations that ball tamper or cheat or are corrupt - no one even seems to bat an eyelid lol.
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Re: 2018/19 Australian Summer of cricket

Postby stan » Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:15 am

The Bedge wrote:Yeah I think as a nation we have over reacted with Warner & Smith.. I don't like Warner never have, and would be happy if he never played again, but fairs fair here they've done the (excessive) time for their crimes.. Look at all these other nations that ball tamper or cheat or are corrupt - no one even seems to bat an eyelid lol.
Sri Lanka just announced a 15 day thing for the players to come and talk to them about corruption.

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Re: 2018/19 Australian Summer of cricket

Postby Lightning McQueen » Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:17 am

The Bedge wrote:Yeah I think as a nation we have over reacted with Warner & Smith.. I don't like Warner never have, and would be happy if he never played again, but fairs fair here they've done the (excessive) time for their crimes.. Look at all these other nations that ball tamper or cheat or are corrupt - no one even seems to bat an eyelid lol.

Same here, I am a bit double standardish though, I feel that Smith was genuinely remorseful and deserves a 2nd chance whereas I couldn't give a toss about Warner and would rather not see him again regardless of how talented he is.

I did see Smith as a bit of a sook in the 12 months leading up to his suspension, Punter, Tugga or AB would demonstrate their thoughts in an intimidating manner where Smith carried on like a spoilt brat, much like his partner in crime.
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Re: 2018/19 Australian Summer of cricket

Postby The Bedge » Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:21 am

It's sad when these guys get more scrutiny, publicity and hatred from the Australian community for an act that frankly was **** all, while rapists, murders, kiddy fiddlers, criminals, scammers etc. all appear to do get it a lot lighter.

Our priorities in this country are all sorts of messed up.
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Re: 2018/19 Australian Summer of cricket

Postby batmanbegins » Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:30 am

The Bedge wrote:It's sad when these guys get more scrutiny, publicity and hatred from the Australian community for an act that frankly was **** all, while rapists, murders, kiddy fiddlers, criminals, scammers etc. all appear to do get it a lot lighter.

Our priorities in this country are all sorts of messed up.


The bans were far to harsh but they werent banned just for the ball tampering in my opinion. It was a culmination of the poor behavior of the aussies for the prior few years which made CA make a bigger stance to send a message. There constant messages talking about the line and they knew where it was was just utter nonsense. Problem was most of this aussie team actually seems quite quiet and introverted but they tried to make them aggressive like the old school aussie way which doesnt suit them other then Warner.
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Re: 2018/19 Australian Summer of cricket

Postby amber_fluid » Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:13 pm

People keep saying they made a mistake and deserve a 2nd chance.
CHEATING isn’t a mistake....... there’s a big difference.

Although I agreed with their ban IF they do the right thing from here they deserve to come back in.
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Re: 2018/19 Australian Summer of cricket

Postby RB » Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:14 pm

The Bedge wrote:Yeah I think as a nation we have over reacted with Warner & Smith.. I don't like Warner never have, and would be happy if he never played again, but fairs fair here they've done the (excessive) time for their crimes.. Look at all these other nations that ball tamper or cheat or are corrupt - no one even seems to bat an eyelid lol.

I'm glad that our country has taken a much stronger stance than others. The fact that Atherton, Faf (twice) etc. got away with it shouldn't be a factor in determining their sanctions. This sends a message that peoole wearing the baggy green are expected to play by the rules. If the Saffas are happy with their captain doing the same thing, then that's up to them (although hopefully the ICC will get tougher on this).

But I agree that, particularly with Smith, who AFAIK wasn't involved himself and was only punished for not doing more to stop it, the bans were a tad harsh. I think they should have at least been able to play in the second half of the Shield season, i.e. maybe suspended the last 3 months of the ban in regards to domestic cricket.

One thing I am sick to death of is hearing about how harsh the ban is on Bancroft, because he's just a kid, the new player in the team, etc. The reality is he's a 25 y.o. professional who should know better and should be able to make his own decisions. He is incredibly lucky he wasn't given at least as much as Smith.
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Re: 2018/19 Australian Summer of cricket

Postby The Bedge » Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:52 pm

It's not the punishment that annoys me, it's the constant carry on ever since - seems like every week some media outlet brings it up, and people want to get their torches and burn them at the stake.

I feel like yeah it happened, they've been punished, ok let's move on now.
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Re: 2018/19 Australian Summer of cricket

Postby Jim05 » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:16 pm

Mitch Marsh our of the first ODI with illness and Ashton Turner added to squad
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Re: 2018/19 Australian Summer of cricket

Postby daysofourlives » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:36 pm

Jim05 wrote:Mitch Marsh our of the first ODI with illness and Ashton Turner added to squad


Selectors to JL, "who do you think we should bring in, Mitch is a bit crook?" JL's reply , " ah look fellas i have Ashton Turners number here, ill see if hes doing anything Saturday"
Picking the Australian team is starting to be a lot like club cricket with JL at the helm. Get rid of him, he will take us backwards make no mistake about it.
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2018/19 Australian Summer of cricket

Postby Jim05 » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:39 pm

daysofourlives wrote:
Jim05 wrote:Mitch Marsh our of the first ODI with illness and Ashton Turner added to squad


Selectors to JL, "who do you think we should bring in, Mitch is a bit crook?" JL's reply , " ah look fellas i have Ashton Turners number here, ill see if hes doing anything Saturday"
Picking the Australian team is starting to be a lot like club cricket with JL at the helm. Get rid of him, he will take us backwards make no mistake about it.

Surprised he hasn’t picked Agar, Tye and Cartwright
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Re: 2018/19 Australian Summer of cricket

Postby Armchair expert » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:43 pm

Turner has been performing in the big bash
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Re: 2018/19 Australian Summer of cricket

Postby daysofourlives » Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:00 pm

Armchair expert wrote:Turner has been performing in the big bash


Theres the small matter of another 30 overs in each innings of an ODI. Totally different cricket
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Re: 2018/19 Australian Summer of cricket

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Re: 2018/19 Australian Summer of cricket

Postby whufc » Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:27 pm

batmanbegins wrote:
The Bedge wrote:It's sad when these guys get more scrutiny, publicity and hatred from the Australian community for an act that frankly was **** all, while rapists, murders, kiddy fiddlers, criminals, scammers etc. all appear to do get it a lot lighter.

Our priorities in this country are all sorts of messed up.


The bans were far to harsh but they werent banned just for the ball tampering in my opinion. It was a culmination of the poor behavior of the aussies for the prior few years which made CA make a bigger stance to send a message. There constant messages talking about the line and they knew where it was was just utter nonsense. Problem was most of this aussie team actually seems quite quiet and introverted but they tried to make them aggressive like the old school aussie way which doesnt suit them other then Warner.


Agree

I think there is a lot more to the bannings than we will know.

Personally I don’t believe this was the ball tampering issue.

Normally as a virgin you don’t go and have s&m and gangbangs which sandpapergate is the ball tampering equivalent
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Re: 2018/19 Australian Summer of cricket

Postby The Dark Knight » Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:31 pm

Australia have named there 11 for tomorrow's first ODI in Sydney-
Finch
Carey
Khawaja
S. Marsh
Handscomb
Stoinis
Maxwell
Lyon
Siddle
Richardson
Behrendorff
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2018/19 Australian Summer of cricket

Postby Jim05 » Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:36 pm

Surprised Langer couldn’t find room for more of his WA chums
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Re: 2018/19 Australian Summer of cricket

Postby locky801 » Fri Jan 11, 2019 4:21 pm

The Dark Knight wrote:Australia have named there 11 for tomorrow's first ODI in Sydney-
Finch
Carey
Khawaja
S. Marsh
Handscomb
Stoinis
Maxwell
Lyon
Siddle
Richardson
Behrendorff


Indians will be shaking in their boots with that pace lineup :roll: :shock: :D
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Re: 2018/19 Australian Summer of cricket

Postby Trader » Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:00 pm

He's no McGrath, but is Lyon at 8 a problem?
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Re: 2018/19 Australian Summer of cricket

Postby Q. » Sat Jan 12, 2019 1:02 pm

Another Finch innings, another failure
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