STURT 2007 DRAW

[Pseudo]

I wont correct you
At least 2 teams have won flags from 5th
NW 1984
PP 1998 ?

2 teams in over 100 years of footy says it all

EG finished 3rd be grateful

Only Norwood has won from 5th. Port was 4th in 1998. It would thus be once in only 33 years, not over 100, since the final 5 system has only been played since 1973, omitting 2003.

[therisingblues]

First of all for a club touted as a wooden spoon chance they did a great job to finish 4th
BUT
ST gave up 3 home games at Unley to play at Adelaide Oval
THE RESULTS
UNLEY 7 games 6 wins
ADELAIDE OVAL 3 games 0 wins

ST in essence only played 7 TRUE home games in 2007.
The other clubs had a distinct advantage with home grounds compared to ST

DID playing 3 home games at Adelaide Oval cost ST a double chance ?
I think it did.

Funny the EAGLES played 3 games at Thebarton(the eagles second home whether the fans like playing there or not) and did not win every game at thebarton.And the EAGLES scrapped through into third spot with the double chance .
The eagles fans are not complaining about not finishing higher up the ladder .What helped the EAGLES is winning more games after round 10 than before round 10.
Yes before the season started Sturt were tipped as being bottom then when Sturt started winning something about the second best side and coach in the league was mentioned .Then what happened Sturts win loss ratio changed .
Its one thing being touted as playing in a grandfinal in April/may but the real season starts now.And if sturts fans were fair dinkum fans like Eagles(we are few in number but loud in voice on the net) or Centrals you would not be making posts like above.

Forget the minor round it doesn't matter what happened last week .Get behind your team not just on a BANDWAGON .Be at the ground and give voice and not run down your side or Coach. Because if you don't you aren't never going to go forward.

Thats all IMHO.
But geez forget whinning and get on with the finals.

Fair go Micky J! Which Sturt supporter are you talking about?
Forgetting results and direct discussion about matches, there have been so many threads discussing Sturt's turn in fortunes this year. Many were started by Sturt supporters and many were started by neutral fans. If you want to complain about what people in general are talking about, that's fine, but don't start with the "Sturt fans this, Sturt fans that..yadda yadda" because a Norwood fan has discovered some quirk in the draw.
But thanks for all the advice about bandwagons, supporting our team and being nice to the coach and stuff, if we were complaining about the draw I think those comments would be pretty close to the nail, but seeing that we aren't, well I am not going turn my nose up at advice given with the best intentions now Micky.

[Mickyj]

mal

IN your thebarton results for the EG you have centrals playing and winning twice, but didnt norwood win there by 12 goals or so????????

i missed that as well

[Grahaml]

If Sturt can't win against decent oppositin at AO then it won't matter whether they get the double chance or not. Ricky and the club obviously felt more games at their finals venue was worth more than the home ground advantage of Unley oval. However in the end if a team is good enough they'll win anywhere. Premiership teams win on more than 1 ground!

[LPH]

If Sturt can't win against decent oppositin at AO then it won't matter whether they get the double chance or not. Ricky and the club obviously felt more games at their finals venue was worth more than the home ground advantage of Unley oval. However in the end if a team is good enough they'll win anywhere. Premiership teams win on more than 1 ground!

Please...
Draw ... Smaw !!!

The facts...

NOT good enough to beat any of the other Finals Teams in the last 5 weeks...
That's why you didn't get the Double Chance, simple as that.

1 win since the bye means that STURT are the team that has NOT had the depth of the other 4 & DEPTH was ALWAYS going to be your problem... it has NOTHING to do with WHERE you played the games.

This is why you lot (Sturt fans & 'wagon hoppers) are NOT taken seriously because REALITY is (for many of you) not in your thinking.

Get over it & Get on with it

[therisingblues]

If Sturt can't win against decent oppositin at AO then it won't matter whether they get the double chance or not. Ricky and the club obviously felt more games at their finals venue was worth more than the home ground advantage of Unley oval. However in the end if a team is good enough they'll win anywhere. Premiership teams win on more than 1 ground!

Please...
Draw ... Smaw !!!

The facts...

NOT good enough to beat any of the other Finals Teams in the last 5 weeks...
That's why you didn't get the Double Chance, simple as that.

1 win since the bye means that STURT are the team that has NOT had the depth of the other 4 & DEPTH was ALWAYS going to be your problem... it has NOTHING to do with WHERE you played the games.

This is why you lot (Sturt fans & 'wagon hoppers) are NOT taken seriously because REALITY is (for many of you) not in your thinking.

Get over it & Get on with it

I don't think any Sturt supporters are denying that we are short on depth LEH, I think the reality of this situation is that you are just trolling again.

[LPH]

If Sturt can't win against decent oppositin at AO then it won't matter whether they get the double chance or not. Ricky and the club obviously felt more games at their finals venue was worth more than the home ground advantage of Unley oval. However in the end if a team is good enough they'll win anywhere. Premiership teams win on more than 1 ground!

Please...
Draw ... Smaw !!!

The facts...

NOT good enough to beat any of the other Finals Teams in the last 5 weeks...
That's why you didn't get the Double Chance, simple as that.

1 win since the bye means that STURT are the team that has NOT had the depth of the other 4 & DEPTH was ALWAYS going to be your problem... it has NOTHING to do with WHERE you played the games.

This is why you lot (Sturt fans & 'wagon hoppers) are NOT taken seriously because REALITY is (for many of you) not in your thinking.

Get over it & Get on with it

I don't think any Sturt supporters are denying that we are short on depth LEH, I think the reality of this situation is that you are just trolling again.

No... not at all.

Did you READ what I posted ?
Is that NOT a fair assessment?

[therisingblues]

This is why you lot (Sturt fans & 'wagon hoppers) are NOT taken seriously because REALITY is (for many of you) not in your thinking.


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Yes I read what you wrote, and I have highlighted the part you need to explain if indeed you are not trolling. The way I read it is you want to connect our lack of depth with to some sort of denial on our part, hence a lack of credibilty.
Explain.

[CENTURION]

First of all for a club touted as a wooden spoon chance they did a great job to finish 4th
BUT
ST gave up 3 home games at Unley to play at Adelaide Oval
THE RESULTS
UNLEY 7 games 6 wins
ADELAIDE OVAL 3 games 0 wins

ST in essence only played 7 TRUE home games in 2007.
The other clubs had a distinct advantage with home grounds compared to ST

DID playing 3 home games at Adelaide Oval cost ST a double chance ?
I think it did.

So, let me get this right. It is the OVAL'S fault that they lost after being 50 points up on the same oval, in the same match?

[LPH]

This is why you lot (Sturt fans & 'wagon hoppers) are NOT taken seriously because REALITY is (for many of you) not in your thinking.


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Yes I read what you wrote, and I have highlighted the part you need to explain if indeed you are not trolling. The way I read it is you want to connect our lack of depth with to some sort of denial on our part, hence a lack of credibilty.
Explain.[/quote]

I will try to explain ... as this is clearly this is being 'lost in translation'

Doko e ikimas ka ? (all Japanese I know sadly)

Having withstood the constant spruking that has appeared on this site throughout the season, regarding your club, rarely has DEPTH & INJURIES been mentioned. All that I have read is...
"McGowan, 2nd best coach in league... New Era... Blues the real deal... etc, etc ad norsium"

At no time (& please correct me if I am mistaken) have you lot acknowledged that BOTH North & Eagles have had MANY players out throughout the season for LONG periods of time... the Eagles NOW in fact (if you consider that Passadore, Inkster, Colville & Guiffreda were missing on Saturday)... we beat Port @ Alberton with a 1/4 of a side FFS.

It is important that fans make HONEST assessments NOT bias ones... that's all.

Now sure, I have been guilty of some serious 'fishing' throughout the year but this is NOT one of those times

[therisingblues]

It has been mentioned a few times by myself and others that the difference between our injuries and those of the Eagles is that ours are occurring at such a crucial time of the year. This is not an excuse, but a fact and I am telling you now so you can see the context of its use, because I am not going to shuffle through all the old threads to find it all.
Our lack of depth has been a big talking point down at Unley, going back to the pre-season. A couple of posters claimed that our depth was actually good owing to the surprising form of some juniors, (but then that is a whole new debate which is not totally groundless) but even they admitted we were lacking in tall players.
All you have read about "New Eras" and "Renaissances" has been the work of one poster, and the whole board having a laugh at (with?) him for writing it.
I think the translation is pretty good.
Doko e ikimasu ka? Ichiban! Hooligan-kun! The Blues wa ichiban massugu ni ikimasu desu yo! Kotoshi, rai-nen itsuka honto ni wakaranai kedo ichiban ni naru!
Ganbatte Blues!

[Punk Rooster]

First of all for a club touted as a wooden spoon chance they did a great job to finish 4th
BUT
ST gave up 3 home games at Unley to play at Adelaide Oval
THE RESULTS
UNLEY 7 games 6 wins
ADELAIDE OVAL 3 games 0 wins

ST in essence only played 7 TRUE home games in 2007.
The other clubs had a distinct advantage with home grounds compared to ST

DID playing 3 home games at Adelaide Oval cost ST a double chance ?
I think it did.

So, let me get this right. It is the OVAL'S fault that they lost after being 50 points up on the same oval, in the same match?

LMAO!

[mal]

First of all for a club touted as a wooden spoon chance they did a great job to finish 4th
BUT
ST gave up 3 home games at Unley to play at Adelaide Oval
THE RESULTS
UNLEY 7 games 6 wins
ADELAIDE OVAL 3 games 0 wins

ST in essence only played 7 TRUE home games in 2007.
The other clubs had a distinct advantage with home grounds compared to ST

DID playing 3 home games at Adelaide Oval cost ST a double chance ?
I think it did.

So, let me get this right. It is the OVAL'S fault that they lost after being 50 points up on the same oval, in the same match?

LMAO!

Im going to bring myself down to your level fellas

Was it the ovals fault a couple of years ago when NW beat NA in the wet
in the last round at Adelaide oval and it cost NA the Double chance ?

[Ian]

Was it the ovals fault a couple of years ago when NW beat NA in the wet
in the last round at Adelaide oval and it cost NA the Double chance ?

The un natural conditions were caused by a water retention agent being put on the oval before the unexpected 24 hr downpour occured...........................I guess you could blame mother nature and/or Les Burdett though

Honestley, it was unfortunate that a game that should have been a good spectacle and had a lot riding on it for one of the teams was turned into a swimming carnival, but they both had to encounter the same conditions, Norwood were much better swimmers and handled the conditions much better. I doubt we will ever see Adelaide Oval in that condition again.

[bayman]

I wont correct you
At least 2 teams have won flags from 5th
NW 1984
PP 1998 ?

2 teams in over 100 years of footy says it all

EG finished 3rd be grateful

mal, get your facts right because as usual you only put what you want to put up, as up until 1973 (great year) it was a final 4 system, bar for one year earlier this century it has been the final 5 system since then, so get it right & i'd suggest its not where they're playing but the playing of already injured players that is the problem

[mal]

I wont correct you
At least 2 teams have won flags from 5th
NW 1984
PP 1998 ?

2 teams in over 100 years of footy says it all

EG finished 3rd be grateful

mal, get your facts right because as usual you only put what you want to put up, as up until 1973 (great year) it was a final 4 system, bar for one year earlier this century it has been the final 5 system since then, so get it right & i'd suggest its not where they're playing but the playing of already injured players that is the problem

twice in 33 years then

[spell_check]

To me, it shouldn't have to matter who got the worse draw, a team should be able to win on any ground. All grounds have four posts at either end, and have grass on them.

[Pseudo]

twice in 33 years then

Once.

[am Bays]

I wont correct you
At least 2 teams have won flags from 5th
NW 1984
PP 1998 ?

2 teams in over 100 years of footy says it all

EG finished 3rd be grateful

mal, get your facts right because as usual you only put what you want to put up, as up until 1973 (great year) it was a final 4 system, bar for one year earlier this century it has been the final 5 system since then, so get it right & i'd suggest its not where they're playing but the playing of already injured players that is the problem

twice in 33 years then

Do you think maybe, just maybe, that there is a tinsy winsy possibility that the reason why teams from 4th or 5th find it so hard to wins flags is that over the season at lest one team (with a possibility of another two) have clearly demonstrated that they are better than the teams that finish 4th and 5th ????

[Grahaml]

Agree TM. It usually does just so happen that the 4th and 5th placed teams are usually the 4th and 5th best teams!

How many mistakes can you make here Mal? not only have you been caught out saying 2 teams won from 5th in 100 years but you claim one was "PP". Port Power?