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Re: Port Adelaide 2019

Postby JK » Sat May 25, 2019 1:37 pm

Mate of mine takes a minivan and parks near the gates, timeon of every quarter the boys pile out and attack the Eskies, saves them all close to a grand each by seasons end
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Re: Port Adelaide 2019

Postby Booney » Mon May 27, 2019 10:31 am

You ever started a road trip and had a flat tyre in the first hour? That’s what Saturday felt like.

Port have won just 3 of the 10 first quarters this year ( Richmond, West Coast and North ) and slow starts have not just put us behind the 8 ball but have ultimately cost us 4 points, especially against Brisbane and on the weekend against Hawthorn. Is it mindset? Is it the preparation? Is it a young group not being fully prepared for AFL football week in and week out? A combination of all of that, I think.

The first quarter started with some promise, we actually had 6 F50 entries to 2 at one stage ( the quarter ended up 16-6 to Hawthorn ) but neither side had been able to score. Some of those entries were deep enough to create some opportunities but we couldn’t make the most of any of them, in fact it didn’t look like we were going to score and as it turns out for the first half hour ( 45 minutes, actually ) we didn’t. We worked and worked for no result, at the other end Hawthorn bang on 4 goals in 10 minutes and it looked like and it in fact was, game over.

Hard to think of anyone who stood up in the first quarter under the pressure the Hawks threw at us, we simply didn’t handle the pressure nor the conditions and it was galling to say the least to watch them scythe their way from one side of the ground to the other and then march forward to score with ease as we fumbled and fart arsed around for no results. Our skills under pressure simply haven’t improved in recent years, while I’m willing to give guys with under 10 games the benefit of the doubt the rest just simply need to be better.

We all know we’re missing personnel and need some troops back, but one area we’re not really short on is the centre square and with Ladhams/Ryder, Boak, SPP, Rockliff and Gray back in the side we should have been able to get first look at the ball. Going into the match ( from memory ) it was 2nd v 15th for clearances, in the first quarter it’s 12-9 Hawthorns way, and halfway through the second quarter it was 4-3 centre clearances. From Hawthorns 4 they score 2 goals 1, from our 3 we didn’t even get an I50. Smacked.

Not until Rozee ran into an open goal halfway through the second did we look like registering a major, Duursma joined him on the score sheet soon after but it still ended up our lowest first half score for the year and we made no real inroads into the Hawthorn lead. Howard was solid in the air, DBJ was solid on the ground, Boak was still working and Robbie Gray began to come into the game. Not much else to mention.

Much like the second every time we looked like we had some momentum the Hawks hit back with one, or two. Amon goaled on the run from a defensive 50 build up to bring the margin back to 18 points and for the only time in the match we had some control in the run of play. Scully and Gunston reply with 1 each and it’s déjà vu all over again. Powell-Pepper kicked truly from long range before Westhoff, Motlop and Frampton all missed challenging yet gettable goals only to see Impey bang one through at the other end. Infuriating and any chance of a late challenge was wasted in front of goal.

The last quarter was really only played out to pile on the misery, Gunston kicked his 5th in the first minute to put the game to bed. We’d got control in the clearances by now, 41-30 but kept kicking it straight to Sicily or Ceglar in the air who used Henderson on the way out. Their ability to get men loose 15-20m from the ball and then hit them up killed us. Our inability to kick it to a team mate killed us. When we did manage to kick it to a team mate their inability to mark it killed us.

We’ve seen our skill’s let us down year after year, there’s no doubt our system works as in almost every game this year we’ve had more I50’s than our opponents but our delivery I50 is either poor, to poor position or we’re outnumbered at the fall of the ball. We don’t lower our eyes when hitting the F50, we bomb away to contests where we’re outnumbered and calling it dumb football wouldn’t be a stretch.

With two games against sides level with us on the ladder the games in Shanghai and Perth either side of the bye will define our season.

Boon’s best – Byrne-Jones, R.Gray, Boak, Houston, Duursma

So, to the longest road trip of all. With Rockliff twinging a hamstring late I doubt he’s on the plane to Shanghai, I’m not sure they’ll fold Lycett up on a plane to China either given his adductor strain.

Burton has reportedly overcome his hamstring strain so should return while Atley and Drew were both solid in the SANFL, one of them likely to replace Rockliff.

Early thoughts on changes :
In – Drew, Burton
Out – Rockliff, Motlop
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Re: Port Adelaide 2019

Postby The Bedge » Mon May 27, 2019 11:07 am

I watched bit of the game yesterday afternoon - i thought Howard was really good early on in the game, certainly held his own in the 1st, and strangely enough I thought Port appeared in the game for most of the 1st quarter. From memory, Gray F50 entry missed a target, Frampton marked deep but gave away a couple of pushing free kicks in the process and Rozee sprayed one from around the 50 when he should've ran in straightened and goaled.

At the other end, SPP basically dropping the ball gifted the Hawks their first and there was only 9min left in the qtr.. then they went BANG BANG BANG.. and it was all over red rover.

Motlop looked soft again and not in the game, i'm confused by Ladhams inclusion - didn't really see the value in swapping a like for like when you have Ryder forward anyway - the guy who was the #1 ruck for a while.

So much size and height, they were always going to struggle to handle the Hawks pressure and slow their defensive exits.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2019

Postby daysofourlives » Mon May 27, 2019 8:02 pm

Is Ryder finished? Looks way off the pace, has he been like that all year?
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Re: Port Adelaide 2019

Postby helicopterking » Tue May 28, 2019 9:13 am

daysofourlives wrote:Is Ryder finished? Looks way off the pace, has he been like that all year?


Been like that for a lot of His career.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2019

Postby Booney » Tue May 28, 2019 9:30 am

helicopterking wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:Is Ryder finished? Looks way off the pace, has he been like that all year?


Been like that for a lot of His career.


Stirring or your view?
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Re: Port Adelaide 2019

Postby Booney » Tue May 28, 2019 9:36 am

daysofourlives wrote:Is Ryder finished? Looks way off the pace, has he been like that all year?


Father time right up his tail pipe at the moment. Hasn't really been the same since his achilles last year, hasn't got any real spring in his step, more worrying is what were once a reliable set of hands on the lead have deserted him and he's struggling to take a grab.

Lowest marks average since his rookie season, lowest hitouts since needle gate, lowest possessions since rookie season.

Out of contract at seasons end, would be 50/50 at best to go around again.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2019

Postby Dutchy » Tue May 28, 2019 10:14 am

How far is Hayes away from playing? Should be getting close.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2019

Postby Booney » Tue May 28, 2019 10:24 am

Dutchy wrote:How far is Hayes away from playing? Should be getting close.


Was due to play 2 weeks ago against Adelaide and got hit with glandular fever. Is listed as 2-3 weeks.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2019

Postby daysofourlives » Tue May 28, 2019 6:53 pm

Booney wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:Is Ryder finished? Looks way off the pace, has he been like that all year?


Father time right up his tail pipe at the moment. Hasn't really been the same since his achilles last year, hasn't got any real spring in his step, more worrying is what were once a reliable set of hands on the lead have deserted him and he's struggling to take a grab.

Lowest marks average since his rookie season, lowest hitouts since needle gate, lowest possessions since rookie season.

Out of contract at seasons end, would be 50/50 at best to go around again.


Any chance he will go out when Lycett comes back? Probably depends on the results over the next 4 or 5 weeks, if finals are out the window so is Ryder.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2019

Postby helicopterking » Wed May 29, 2019 7:41 am

Booney wrote:
helicopterking wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:Is Ryder finished? Looks way off the pace, has he been like that all year?


Been like that for a lot of His career.


Stirring or your view?


Do you think he’s got the most he could have out of his career?
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Re: Port Adelaide 2019

Postby Booney » Wed May 29, 2019 8:48 am

helicopterking wrote:
Booney wrote:
helicopterking wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:Is Ryder finished? Looks way off the pace, has he been like that all year?


Been like that for a lot of His career.


Stirring or your view?


Do you think he’s got the most he could have out of his career?


Kind of pissing in the wind if I say "Yes" (I'd actually say "I don't know", how can you?) and you say "No" because how, in the either sense, can I/you possibly quantify that argument?

The Essendon saga certainly took it's toll on him, obviously, as he chose to leave the club but having said that he came back after the year off and became the All-Australian ruckman and won the Best and Fairest, not bad for someone a year out of the game.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2019

Postby Booney » Wed May 29, 2019 8:51 am

daysofourlives wrote:
Booney wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:Is Ryder finished? Looks way off the pace, has he been like that all year?


Father time right up his tail pipe at the moment. Hasn't really been the same since his achilles last year, hasn't got any real spring in his step, more worrying is what were once a reliable set of hands on the lead have deserted him and he's struggling to take a grab.

Lowest marks average since his rookie season, lowest hitouts since needle gate, lowest possessions since rookie season.

Out of contract at seasons end, would be 50/50 at best to go around again.


Any chance he will go out when Lycett comes back? Probably depends on the results over the next 4 or 5 weeks, if finals are out the window so is Ryder.


He stays in ahead of Ladhams, so Lycett / Ryder will be the two ruck / forward options. I think it will get interesting when Dixon* is back and playing.

Forward of the ball Dixon and Frampton may play as the key forwards, Lycett / Ryder as the ruck / forwards and Westhoff back onto the wing.

Can't have Dixon, Ryder, Westhoff and Frampton all in the forward line and we structure up better with two talls + the resting ruckman.

*Dixon expected to play SANFL against Norwood in 3 weeks.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2019

Postby MW » Wed May 29, 2019 10:56 am

Interesting to hear Jonas had only run twice in 5 weeks before being selected v Hawks and getting toweled up by Gunston.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2019

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed May 29, 2019 11:15 am

MW wrote:Interesting to hear Jonas had only run twice in 5 weeks before being selected v Hawks and getting toweled up by Gunston.

pew pew. :lol:
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Re: Port Adelaide 2019

Postby Bum Crack » Wed May 29, 2019 11:18 am

Booney wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:
Booney wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:Is Ryder finished? Looks way off the pace, has he been like that all year?


Father time right up his tail pipe at the moment. Hasn't really been the same since his achilles last year, hasn't got any real spring in his step, more worrying is what were once a reliable set of hands on the lead have deserted him and he's struggling to take a grab.

Lowest marks average since his rookie season, lowest hitouts since needle gate, lowest possessions since rookie season.

Out of contract at seasons end, would be 50/50 at best to go around again.


Any chance he will go out when Lycett comes back? Probably depends on the results over the next 4 or 5 weeks, if finals are out the window so is Ryder.


He stays in ahead of Ladhams, so Lycett / Ryder will be the two ruck / forward options. I think it will get interesting when Dixon* is back and playing.

Forward of the ball Dixon and Frampton may play as the key forwards, Lycett / Ryder as the ruck / forwards and Westhoff back onto the wing.

Can't have Dixon, Ryder, Westhoff and Frampton all in the forward line and we structure up better with two talls + the resting ruckman.

*Dixon expected to play SANFL against Norwood in 3 weeks.

Looks like you could be back to near full strength for the Cats game in 4 weeks then. That will give you a good indication of where you're at anyway.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2019

Postby DOC » Wed May 29, 2019 11:25 am

Port normally go ADL/HKG/Shanghai 8000km 1 stop about 11 hours flight time. Approx 13 hours total.

This time have gone ADL/MEL/SING/Shanghai 10500km 2 stops 14.5 hours flight time. Approx 19 hours total.

Not sure if they have done this because the AFL have made them use Virgin (code share with Singapore Airlines) or because Cathay Pacific pulled out of sponsoring? Either way, that extra stop/6 hours is just unnecessary.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2019

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed May 29, 2019 11:32 am

DOC wrote:Port normally go ADL/HKG/Shanghai 8000km 1 stop about 11 hours flight time. Approx 13 hours total.

This time have gone ADL/MEL/SING/Shanghai 10500km 2 stops 14.5 hours flight time. Approx 19 hours total.

Not sure if they have done this because the AFL have made them use Virgin (code share with Singapore Airlines) or because Cathay Pacific pulled out of sponsoring? Either way, that extra stop/6 hours is just unnecessary.

How many people were on the plane?
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Re: Port Adelaide 2019

Postby Booney » Wed May 29, 2019 11:40 am

DOC wrote:Port normally go ADL/HKG/Shanghai 8000km 1 stop about 11 hours flight time. Approx 13 hours total.

This time have gone ADL/MEL/SING/Shanghai 10500km 2 stops 14.5 hours flight time. Approx 19 hours total.

Not sure if they have done this because the AFL have made them use Virgin (code share with Singapore Airlines) or because Cathay Pacific pulled out of sponsoring? Either way, that extra stop/6 hours is just unnecessary.


Pretty sure we previously left on Wednesday morning, we're now there Wednesday morning.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2019

Postby DOC » Wed May 29, 2019 12:17 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
DOC wrote:Port normally go ADL/HKG/Shanghai 8000km 1 stop about 11 hours flight time. Approx 13 hours total.

This time have gone ADL/MEL/SING/Shanghai 10500km 2 stops 14.5 hours flight time. Approx 19 hours total.

Not sure if they have done this because the AFL have made them use Virgin (code share with Singapore Airlines) or because Cathay Pacific pulled out of sponsoring? Either way, that extra stop/6 hours is just unnecessary.

How many people were on the plane?


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