2019 Silly Season

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Re: 2019 Silly Season

Postby Bandit » Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:18 pm

PatowalongaPirate wrote:
Booney wrote:Port get 12,18 and future 3rd rounder.

St Kilda get 10, Howard, Ryder and future 4th rounder.

I'm lost.

Whilst I think Howard's value on the open market is probably an early - mid second rounder, his value to Port is much, much more.

I am still amazed he was encouraged to test the market.

With the coach determined to play him forward or in the sanfl, his value to port really wasnt that much.
You would take 18 for a fringe player every day.
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Re: 2019 Silly Season

Postby Booney » Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:20 pm

Adelaide fans :

We want a review, we want dead wood gone, we want cultural change.

Adelaide FC :

Ok.

Port fans :

We don't want you to trade Howard, we value him too much.

Port Adelaide FC :

Get ******.
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Re: 2019 Silly Season

Postby Dutchy » Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:36 pm

How much should clubs listen to their members though? Where do you start and end with it?

Could be all sorts of underlying private issues that the public aren't aware of.
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Re: 2019 Silly Season

Postby woodublieve12 » Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:49 pm

Darcy Cameron has been traded to Collingwood for pick 56 and the pies get back 62
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Re: 2019 Silly Season

Postby Brodlach » Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:50 pm

woodublieve12 wrote:Darcy Cameron has been traded to Collingwood for pick 56 and the pies get back 62

Wrong thread ;)
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Re: 2019 Silly Season

Postby stan » Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:50 pm

Dutchy wrote:How much should clubs listen to their members though? Where do you start and end with it?

Could be all sorts of underlying private issues that the public aren't aware of.
Very true, but on the surface of it, it looks like Port are drunk.
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Re: 2019 Silly Season

Postby woodublieve12 » Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:50 pm

Brodlach wrote:
woodublieve12 wrote:Darcy Cameron has been traded to Collingwood for pick 56 and the pies get back 62

Wrong thread ;)


i can't find the collingwood thread ;)
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Re: 2019 Silly Season

Postby Brodlach » Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:51 pm

woodublieve12 wrote:
Brodlach wrote:
woodublieve12 wrote:Darcy Cameron has been traded to Collingwood for pick 56 and the pies get back 62

Wrong thread ;)


i can't find the collingwood thread ;)

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Re: 2019 Silly Season

Postby Booney » Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:58 pm

Dutchy wrote:How much should clubs listen to their members though? Where do you start and end with it?

Could be all sorts of underlying private issues that the public aren't aware of.


Absolutely, nuffies like me aren't best served to make list management decisions, not by any stretch, but, given the discontent the co-captaincy created, next years 150th anniversary and a decline in membership numbers you'd think the club might just reconsider something that, universally, was condemned by the members.
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Re: 2019 Silly Season

Postby whufc » Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:20 pm

Booney wrote:
Dutchy wrote:How much should clubs listen to their members though? Where do you start and end with it?

Could be all sorts of underlying private issues that the public aren't aware of.


Absolutely, nuffies like me aren't best served to make list management decisions, not by any stretch, but, given the discontent the co-captaincy created, next years 150th anniversary and a decline in membership numbers you'd think the club might just reconsider something that, universally, was condemned by the members.


You answered why the club didn’t reconsider in your first ten words.

The day fans have any kind of say on list management is the day your club is shot completely. Ultimately your just a membership number to the clubs and ultimately if the club was to go completely broke the AFL would never let them fold so really there is no consequence for poor management, I use the GC as my evidence.
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Re: 2019 Silly Season

Postby Booney » Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:22 pm

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=39508&start=8780


^ 440 pages because clubs didn't listen to the members.
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Re: 2019 Silly Season

Postby whufc » Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:24 pm

Booney wrote:http://safooty.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=39508&start=8780


^ 440 pages because clubs didn't listen to the members.


Yep and ultimately nothing has really changed, the nuffies still can’t bring themselves to do a serious boycott and whilst the SANFL is receiving significant funding from the AFL the protestors/non attenders are nothing more than a nuisance fly.

The SANFL will tell you it’s never been better positioned.

I think that whole debate proves my point further.

99.9% of those against all those things you mentioned will be there in round 3 if Port have a 2-0 start.
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Re: 2019 Silly Season

Postby mots02 » Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:31 pm

Booney wrote:http://safooty.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=39508&start=8780


^ 440 pages because clubs didn't listen to the members.



I look forward to the ensuing 440 pages on the "Never ending Port didn't listen to their members and traded Dougal Howard to St Kilda whinge thread"
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Re: 2019 Silly Season

Postby whufc » Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:37 pm

mots02 wrote:
Booney wrote:http://safooty.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=39508&start=8780


^ 440 pages because clubs didn't listen to the members.



I look forward to the ensuing 440 pages on the "Never ending Port didn't listen to their members and traded Dougal Howard to St Kilda whinge thread"


Can I put money on the crowds will drop and this will be a major reason for that if they lose games early.

Can I also put money on it will be dougall who and crowd attendances will go up if they win games early.
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Re: 2019 Silly Season

Postby mots02 » Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:38 pm

whufc wrote:
mots02 wrote:
Booney wrote:http://safooty.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=39508&start=8780


^ 440 pages because clubs didn't listen to the members.



I look forward to the ensuing 440 pages on the "Never ending Port didn't listen to their members and traded Dougal Howard to St Kilda whinge thread"


Can I put money on the crowds will drop and this will be a major reason for that if they lose games early.

Can I also put money on it will be dougall who and crowd attendances will go up if they win games early.


Only if UK Fan is appointed as the official crowd counter
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Re: 2019 Silly Season

Postby whufc » Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:46 pm

mots02 wrote:
whufc wrote:
mots02 wrote:
Booney wrote:http://safooty.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=39508&start=8780


^ 440 pages because clubs didn't listen to the members.



I look forward to the ensuing 440 pages on the "Never ending Port didn't listen to their members and traded Dougal Howard to St Kilda whinge thread"


Can I put money on the crowds will drop and this will be a major reason for that if they lose games early.

Can I also put money on it will be dougall who and crowd attendances will go up if they win games early.


Only if UK Fan is appointed as the official crowd counter


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Re: 2019 Silly Season

Postby Dutchy » Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:53 pm

Booney wrote:
Dutchy wrote:How much should clubs listen to their members though? Where do you start and end with it?

Could be all sorts of underlying private issues that the public aren't aware of.


Absolutely, nuffies like me aren't best served to make list management decisions, not by any stretch, but, given the discontent the co-captaincy created, next years 150th anniversary and a decline in membership numbers you'd think the club might just reconsider something that, universally, was condemned by the members.


2 separate issues IMO, things like the number of Captains is something they should get member input for, this is something that hasn't changed for 148 years, not sure any club is ever going to listen its members when it comes to list management though.
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Re: 2019 Silly Season

Postby daysofourlives » Tue Oct 15, 2019 6:19 pm

Dutchy wrote:geez the Hawks get some bargains done

Because we are not pricks to deal with going the other way
Hill to Freo favoured them
Mitchell, Hodge and Lewis were freebies.
Wingard we gave up a fair bit.

I think what it comes down to is we have a very low opinion of the draft and what order you get them in. We just back ourselves to find something useful no matter what pick it is. Only time we need picks is for talented father/sons bidding
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Re: 2019 Silly Season

Postby daysofourlives » Tue Oct 15, 2019 6:23 pm

Jim05 wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
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Dutchy wrote:geez the Hawks get some bargains done

$600k for a bloke that will probably spend a lot of time at Box Hill?


Are they paying that?

Yep.
GWS need the $600k off their books to keep Cameron, Whitfield etc. They took the low pick on the condition the Hawks pay his existing contract.
Same as Scully last year


Jim was there when Patton signed the contract
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Re: 2019 Silly Season

Postby daysofourlives » Tue Oct 15, 2019 6:39 pm

Dutchy wrote:How much should clubs listen to their members though? Where do you start and end with it?

Could be all sorts of underlying private issues that the public aren't aware of.


Apparently Howard had a big falling out with one of the coaches, Montgomery, is he the defensive coach?
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