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Re: Port Adelaide 2020

Postby The Bedge » Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:56 am

No Booney review from the weekend's match - does this mean he wasn't pleased with what he saw?
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Re: Port Adelaide 2020

Postby Booney » Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:06 pm

The Bedge wrote:No Booney review from the weekend's match - does this mean he wasn't pleased with what he saw?


Marsh Series mate, not worthy of a review, didn't do one for Brisbane game either.

I have liked the loading up of good ball users across half back / midfield, Hartlett, Burton, Bonner, DBJ, Amon, Rozee, Duursma, Houston, all running through the midfield and half back has seen us transition the ball much better from half back to the F50, that's why Dixon has had 12 shots on goal in 2 games. 98 points one game, 95 the next, good signs for the ball movement against two good sides in the Lions and Dogs. We all know they aren't all going 100% but I don't suspect we have been either.

SPP's move forward has created some genuine pressure in our F50, the likes of Gray, Rozee, Marshall etc, that's not their forte, sure they apply some pressure but nothing like SPP does, this also allows him to be more explosive in the middle when he does go in there, perhaps we won't see so many munged fatigued kicks from him as we did.

Interesting view down back, looks like McKenzie is going to play ahead of Lienert and up front Ebert looks to be on the outer as Georgiades and Marshall look set to be the other targets forward.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2020

Postby The Bedge » Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:08 pm

Booney wrote:Interesting view down back, looks like McKenzie is going to play ahead of Lienert and up front Ebert looks to be on the outer as Georgiades and Marshall look set to be the other targets forward.

Lienert a chance to play higher up the ground - wing/HFF?

Don't think Georgiades will make the 22 for round 1.. he's looks an exciting prospect, and athletic, but not sure he has had enough impact in the two practise matches so far.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2020

Postby Dutchy » Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:14 pm

Time for Port to move on from Dixon? Out of contract, rising 30yo, of his last 29 games has kicked 3+ goals only 5 times (generally against bottom 8 teams)
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Re: Port Adelaide 2020

Postby MW » Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:16 pm

Dutchy wrote:Time for Port to move on from Dixon? Out of contract, rising 30yo, of his last 29 games has kicked 3+ goals only 5 times (generally against bottom 8 teams)


The single most over hyped KPP that's ever played the game.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2020

Postby Brodlach » Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:21 pm

MW wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Time for Port to move on from Dixon? Out of contract, rising 30yo, of his last 29 games has kicked 3+ goals only 5 times (generally against bottom 8 teams)


The single most over hyped KPP that's ever played the game.


That’s a bit rough, Lawrence Angwin and John Butcher say hello
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Re: Port Adelaide 2020

Postby MW » Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:24 pm

Brodlach wrote:
MW wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Time for Port to move on from Dixon? Out of contract, rising 30yo, of his last 29 games has kicked 3+ goals only 5 times (generally against bottom 8 teams)


The single most over hyped KPP that's ever played the game.


That’s a bit rough, Lawrence Angwin and John Butcher say hello


They weren't hyped up every pre-season for an eternity though. somehow people have amnesia when it comes to Dixon
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Re: Port Adelaide 2020

Postby Brodlach » Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:29 pm

The Future??

That’s hyped
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Re: Port Adelaide 2020

Postby Booney » Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:31 pm

Dutchy wrote:Time for Port to move on from Dixon? Out of contract, rising 30yo, of his last 29 games has kicked 3+ goals only 5 times (generally against bottom 8 teams)


Who do you have in mind?
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Re: Port Adelaide 2020

Postby JK » Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:43 pm

Booney wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Time for Port to move on from Dixon? Out of contract, rising 30yo, of his last 29 games has kicked 3+ goals only 5 times (generally against bottom 8 teams)


Who do you have in mind?


Not thinking short term as a Dixon replacement as such, but do you think Ladhams has any potential to make it as a forward? I was pretty impressed with both his mobility and ability last season and he's getting to a pretty good size these days.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2020

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:45 pm

Dutchy wrote:Time for Port to move on from Dixon? Out of contract, rising 30yo, of his last 29 games has kicked 3+ goals only 5 times (generally against bottom 8 teams)

A tad harsh IMO, I think he still has plenty to offer, he has good records against the Bulldogs' and the Eagles goal-wise and racks up decent numbers for a full forward.

I would like to see him stay at home a bit more and give us someone to kick to instead of him wasting petrol up the ground and then trying to make a contest for a grab when he's out of position to do so to begin with.

I think he's going to have a decent year in 2020.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2020

Postby Booney » Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:53 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Time for Port to move on from Dixon? Out of contract, rising 30yo, of his last 29 games has kicked 3+ goals only 5 times (generally against bottom 8 teams)

A tad harsh IMO, I think he still has plenty to offer, he has good records against the Bulldogs' and the Eagles goal-wise and racks up decent numbers for a full forward.

I would like to see him stay at home a bit more and give us someone to kick to instead of him wasting petrol up the ground and then trying to make a contest for a grab when he's out of position to do so to begin with.

I think he's going to have a decent year in 2020.


Dutchy hates Port, so much so he's not going to state during those 29 games he played 9 last year coming back from a snapped leg and the year before when he played 20 (before the broken leg) spent the majority of the year rucking when Ryder was out of the side.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2020

Postby Booney » Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:56 pm

JK wrote:
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Dutchy wrote:Time for Port to move on from Dixon? Out of contract, rising 30yo, of his last 29 games has kicked 3+ goals only 5 times (generally against bottom 8 teams)


Who do you have in mind?


Not thinking short term as a Dixon replacement as such, but do you think Ladhams has any potential to make it as a forward? I was pretty impressed with both his mobility and ability last season and he's getting to a pretty good size these days.


Possibly, I think he's a ruck/fwd more so than fwd/ruck, time will tell. Sam Hayes at SANFL level looks more naturally fwd/ruck, I'm picking him as the one to watch at SANFL level this year.

Port are well known to have cap space, with Gray, Boak, Westhoff and Dixon in their last 2 or 3 seasons they'd be year by year deals on much lower coin than previously, the likes of Rozee and co will no doubt command more money on longer deals, but I expect us to be a player in the FA market in the next 2 years.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2020

Postby mots02 » Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:38 pm

MW wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Time for Port to move on from Dixon? Out of contract, rising 30yo, of his last 29 games has kicked 3+ goals only 5 times (generally against bottom 8 teams)


The single most over hyped KPP that's ever played the game.


Here are the career stats of 2 of SA Footy's all time Favs. (Average stats per game)

One is widely recognised as a front running, 200cm potato, the other is Charlie Dixon.

Can you guess who is who?

Career Stats for Season Career
135 Games 147
6.9 Kicks 8.5
4.8 Handballs 3.6
11.7 Disposals 12.1
3.9 Marks 4.9
1.6 Goals 2.0
0.9 Behinds 1.1
2.2 Tackles 1.9
4.2 Hitouts 4.5
2.0 Inside 50s 2.4
0.5 Goal Assists 0.6
1.5 Frees For 0.9
1.3 Frees Against 0.7
7.6 Contested Possessions 5.3
4.5 Uncontested Possessions 6.9
7.7 Effective Disposals 8.0
65.8% Disposal Efficiency % 66.1%
2.4 Clangers 1.9
1.6 Contested Marks 1.2
1.8 Marks Inside 50 2.1
1.1 Clearances 0.6
0.3 Rebound 50s 0.4
2.1 One Percenters 2.1
0.1 Bounces 0.3
86.4 Time On Ground % 87.3
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Re: Port Adelaide 2020

Postby Booney » Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:42 pm

Yes, Jenkins has played more games than Dixon.

Interesting comparison, how much better would we have been over the last 5 years if Dixon wasn't alone in the key post forward of the ball, how much worse would we have been without him?
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Re: Port Adelaide 2020

Postby Dutchy » Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:21 pm

Booney wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Time for Port to move on from Dixon? Out of contract, rising 30yo, of his last 29 games has kicked 3+ goals only 5 times (generally against bottom 8 teams)


Who do you have in mind?


Anything different than banging it deep onto Charlies head IMO. I doubt Kenny will change anything, but I wonder if a new coach was coming in this season what they would be doing to shape the FWD line for 2021 and beyond.

Marshall's time has come so I would be giving him more responsibility, got rid of Frampton and a part from Buzza there doesn't seem to be too many more options in the current squad. I suspect Ladhams/Lycett will be given more time forward, and it always looks good on the magnet board to have a ruck deep forward, but its folly to be relying on them having 25+ seasons.

Your back 6 and mids look sound, hence my questioning on the Forwards.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2020

Postby Booney » Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:36 pm

Dutchy wrote:
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Dutchy wrote:Time for Port to move on from Dixon? Out of contract, rising 30yo, of his last 29 games has kicked 3+ goals only 5 times (generally against bottom 8 teams)


Who do you have in mind?


Anything different than banging it deep onto Charlies head IMO. I doubt Kenny will change anything, but I wonder if a new coach was coming in this season what they would be doing to shape the FWD line for 2021 and beyond.

Marshall's time has come so I would be giving him more responsibility, got rid of Frampton and a part from Buzza there doesn't seem to be too many more options in the current squad. I suspect Ladhams/Lycett will be given more time forward, and it always looks good on the magnet board to have a ruck deep forward, but its folly to be relying on them having 25+ seasons.

Your back 6 and mids look sound, hence my questioning on the Forwards.


So is it Dixon or the game style that we need to move on? You're hedging your bets here.

We won't be playing Lycett and Ladhams, not in my view.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2020

Postby mots02 » Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:39 pm

Booney wrote:Yes, Jenkins has played more games than Dixon.

Interesting comparison, how much better would we have been over the last 5 years if Dixon wasn't alone in the key post forward of the ball, how much worse would we have been without him?


How much better would you have been in Dixon wasn't also a 200cm potato?

You were no worse (or better) without him during the games he missed.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2020

Postby Dutchy » Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:51 pm

Booney wrote:
So is it Dixon or the game style that we need to move on? You're hedging your bets here.

We won't be playing Lycett and Ladhams, not in my view.


Dixon isn't a natural leading forward so I can see why the game plan is to try to put it on its head. What would a new coach do? Would certainly change the game style and that wouldn't include Dixon IMO.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2020

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:55 pm

mots02 wrote:
Booney wrote:Yes, Jenkins has played more games than Dixon.

Interesting comparison, how much better would we have been over the last 5 years if Dixon wasn't alone in the key post forward of the ball, how much worse would we have been without him?


How much better would you have been in Dixon wasn't also a 200cm potato?

You were no worse (or better) without him during the games he missed.

Jenkins did play some decent footy before he went to the farm.
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