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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby Booney » Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:04 pm

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daysofourlives wrote:
Armchair expert wrote:AFL is done with

Only if they class it as non essential, i think thats up for debate that could go either way


Mount a case for it being essential.


Whilst not essential i think you could make a very good case that is plays a part in alot of peoples mental health wellbeing more so than any other recreational activity in this country. That is pretty close to being essential, if any non health related activity was to be passed i wouldn't be to angry if it was the AFL.


Infection control at this point squashes any counter argument. It must.
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby DOC » Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:04 pm

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How will you get into NSW? Border is closed from Tuesday.
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby Jim05 » Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:04 pm

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Bandit wrote:Planned a 4wd & camping trip next weekend going to broken hill then north to cameron cnr (sa qld nsw intersection) then back into SA accross strzelecki track and home via flinders.

No way will they be checking us at cam cnr, we will camp out hence keeping to ourselves in nsw.

Thoughts? 14 days quarantine seems over the top given where we will travel and who we will come into contact with.


Your social responsibility is to self isolate upon your return.
Added to that SA police are well aware that people will do the wrong thing and I would guess there will be extra patrols. NSW is also set to bring in similar procedures so you may get nabbed in Broken Hill anyway. The fines aren’t worth the risk
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby daysofourlives » Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:06 pm

Jim05 wrote:
Booney wrote:
Bandit wrote:Planned a 4wd & camping trip next weekend going to broken hill then north to cameron cnr (sa qld nsw intersection) then back into SA accross strzelecki track and home via flinders.

No way will they be checking us at cam cnr, we will camp out hence keeping to ourselves in nsw.

Thoughts? 14 days quarantine seems over the top given where we will travel and who we will come into contact with.


Your social responsibility is to self isolate upon your return.
Added to that SA police are well aware that people will do the wrong thing and I would guess there will be extra patrols. NSW is also set to bring in similar procedures so you may get nabbed in Broken Hill anyway. The fines aren’t worth the risk


They will class Broken Hill as part of SA as they pretty much do now imo
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby Bandit » Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:08 pm

DOC wrote:Bandit

How will you get into NSW? Border is closed from Tuesday.

They would let me in right, i just have to quarantine which i will be doing with my SA mates in the bush...
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby whufc » Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:08 pm

At what expense though Booney? Genuine question.

If infection control meant a million aussies were going to be out of work is it worth is?
If it means 500,000 small businesses and household incomes are lost is it worth it?
If it means our country goes into the biggest financial crisis in its history for the next generation to clean up is it worth it?

As sad as it is there just has to be a cut off point just as much as there has to be infection control.

It's almost like the old question 'would you kill one life to save ten'

ps. alot of the older adults i've discussed this with would rather take the risk than see their children/grand children live in a country with no hope, no future.
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby Jase » Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:09 pm

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Jase wrote:Oldest son was supposed to be going on an Outdoor Ed camp to the Arapiles in Victoria tomorrow..

That's been postponed/cancelled...

We had church via Facebook live today... not often you can sit in church in your jocks eating bacon and eggs...

Could get used to that...

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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby Bandit » Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:10 pm

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DOC wrote:Bandit

How will you get into NSW? Border is closed from Tuesday.

They would let me in right, i just have to quarantine which i will be doing with my SA mates in the bush...

Actually fuelling up at a petrol station wont be quarantining so i guess i just answered my own question, cant be done.
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby Jim05 » Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:10 pm

Bandit wrote:
DOC wrote:Bandit

How will you get into NSW? Border is closed from Tuesday.

They would let me in right, i just have to quarantine which i will be doing with my SA mates in the bush...
You have to sign a stat dec and give an address of where you intend to stay so the police can check in on you. If you are camping in the one spot for 14 days they might allow it
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby whufc » Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:14 pm

At what point does a lockdown become 'inhumane' in it's own right.

Keeping in mind 'Home Detention' is still deemed as a legitimate punishment so harsh that is a deterrent to committing further crimes.

Yes as someone who is extremely social and lives an outdoor existence i am scare of a lengthy lockdown in my house, especially given i know many childhood friends who at various times have completed Home Detention. Its not all roses and rainbows especially once you get in a few months.
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby Q. » Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:15 pm

daysofourlives wrote:
Jim05 wrote:Victoria closing down all non essential industry over the next 48hrs with NSW to do likewise

unnecassary, what is non essential? Agriculture, business related to Agriculture, factories that process Ag? Are some items of AG considered non essential like Advocados, grapes, nuts, wine, bacon etc etc


NFF is all over this. Agriculture supply chain critical, so expect that to be business as usual.
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby Jim05 » Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:16 pm

whufc wrote:At what point does a lockdown become 'inhumane' in it's own right.

Keeping in mind 'Home Detention' is still deemed as a legitimate punishment so harsh that is a deterrent to committing further crimes.

Yes as someone who is extremely social and lives an outdoor existence i am scare of a lengthy lockdown in my house.
It’s not a complete lockdown as such. Grocery stores, petrol stations, pharmacies etc would still operate and people wouldn’t be confined to their homes
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby whufc » Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:18 pm

Jim05 wrote:
whufc wrote:At what point does a lockdown become 'inhumane' in it's own right.

Keeping in mind 'Home Detention' is still deemed as a legitimate punishment so harsh that is a deterrent to committing further crimes.

Yes as someone who is extremely social and lives an outdoor existence i am scare of a lengthy lockdown in my house.
It’s not a complete lockdown as such. Grocery stores, petrol stations, pharmacies etc would still operate and people wouldn’t be confined to their homes


From what i understand only one person per family can leave to do shopping, petrol etc. Thats pretty confined if you ask me.
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby Q. » Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:20 pm

Booney wrote:Daughter gets home from Victoria tomorrow night. Our house goes into lockdown then.


Let me know if you need me to drop you off beer in the next two weeks ;)
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby Jim05 » Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:20 pm

whufc wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
whufc wrote:At what point does a lockdown become 'inhumane' in it's own right.

Keeping in mind 'Home Detention' is still deemed as a legitimate punishment so harsh that is a deterrent to committing further crimes.

Yes as someone who is extremely social and lives an outdoor existence i am scare of a lengthy lockdown in my house.
It’s not a complete lockdown as such. Grocery stores, petrol stations, pharmacies etc would still operate and people wouldn’t be confined to their homes


From what i understand only one person per family can leave to do shopping, petrol etc. Thats pretty confined if you ask me.
Where has that been introduced?
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby Booney » Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:21 pm

Q. wrote:
Booney wrote:Daughter gets home from Victoria tomorrow night. Our house goes into lockdown then.


Let me know if you need me to drop you off beer in the next two weeks ;)


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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby amber_fluid » Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:21 pm

Jim05 wrote:
whufc wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
whufc wrote:At what point does a lockdown become 'inhumane' in it's own right.

Keeping in mind 'Home Detention' is still deemed as a legitimate punishment so harsh that is a deterrent to committing further crimes.

Yes as someone who is extremely social and lives an outdoor existence i am scare of a lengthy lockdown in my house.
It’s not a complete lockdown as such. Grocery stores, petrol stations, pharmacies etc would still operate and people wouldn’t be confined to their homes


From what i understand only one person per family can leave to do shopping, petrol etc. Thats pretty confined if you ask me.
Where has that been introduced?


And how would you police it?
There are no stupid questions, just stupid people.
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby whufc » Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:22 pm

Jim05 wrote:
whufc wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
whufc wrote:At what point does a lockdown become 'inhumane' in it's own right.

Keeping in mind 'Home Detention' is still deemed as a legitimate punishment so harsh that is a deterrent to committing further crimes.

Yes as someone who is extremely social and lives an outdoor existence i am scare of a lengthy lockdown in my house.
It’s not a complete lockdown as such. Grocery stores, petrol stations, pharmacies etc would still operate and people wouldn’t be confined to their homes


From what i understand only one person per family can leave to do shopping, petrol etc. Thats pretty confined if you ask me.
Where has that been introduced?


That is how it is working in Italy, Spain, France, Phillipenes etc who have all locked down. I naturally presume we would be following suit otherwise the Elizabeth City Shopping centre will have a line up all the way down the Main North Road to the city.
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby Jim05 » Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:23 pm

amber_fluid wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
whufc wrote:
Jim05 wrote:[quote="whufc"]At what point does a lockdown become 'inhumane' in it's own right.

Keeping in mind 'Home Detention' is still deemed as a legitimate punishment so harsh that is a deterrent to committing further crimes.

Yes as someone who is extremely social and lives an outdoor existence i am scare of a lengthy lockdown in my house.
It’s not a complete lockdown as such. Grocery stores, petrol stations, pharmacies etc would still operate and people wouldn’t be confined to their homes


From what i understand only one person per family can leave to do shopping, petrol etc. Thats pretty confined if you ask me.
Where has that been introduced?


And how would you police it?[/quote]China and Italy use the police and military to enforce it but we are not anywhere near that here at this stage
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

Postby Q. » Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:24 pm

whufc wrote:
bertiebeatle wrote:
whufc wrote:
bertiebeatle wrote:Was meant to go to Brisbane tomorrow for work for a night but have just cancelled that
I’m fortunate enough to be able to work from home, just hoping we don’t shut down all together as it will kill the business


The more and more you hear about businesses not being able to survive it makes you start to wonder at what consequences is to much

The million job loss figure that is getting spouted doesn’t seem so ridiculous.


Yep, it’s going to be a very tough time for a lot of people going forward. I know for sure this can cripple my work if we shut down and we turnover $10-15 mill per year. Can only imagine all the smaller businesses that are going to shut down and amount of people that will lose their jobs


What would even be the consequences of 1,000,000 Aussies losing their job.


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