The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

[wild dog]

On the contrary I think the ramifications of COVID-19 makes them more likely to stay

36 player lists means they'll just (be allowed to) recruit another 20 players and pay them the minuscule top up wage to be on their State league list instead of the current Rookie wage under the AFL players agreement.

With the AFL and it's clubs cutting back costs in the new post COVID-19 world I've got more chance of seeing snow in Darwin in the next 10 years than an AFL reserves competition….

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2020/03/26/blues-part-ways-with-vfl-coach-josh-fraser/

Carlton have ditched the Bullants to cut costs. Equation is simple, let the state league carry the full costs and the AFL teams can just pilfer when they want.

[wild dog]

Afl clubs looking to drastically cut lists to save money next year.


Down to as many as 36 so no afl reserves in our comp looking more likely.


To anyone who gave the old “they are here to stay just get over it “. You couldn’t of been more wrong

Wait, whoa, hang on, you think we're wrong because we didn't predict a global pandemic and economic disaster?

Tssk, silly us.

WAFW.

At the risk of being called a wanker by a Port tragic, what we said was when the circumstances are such that the AFL does not want to be in the SANFL, they will ditch us like a used condom on Hanson Rd.

[wild dog]

Afl clubs looking to drastically cut lists to save money next year.


Down to as many as 36 so no afl reserves in our comp looking more likely.


To anyone who gave the old “they are here to stay just get over it “. You couldn’t of been more wrong

to quote The Castle,
"YOU BLOODY RIPPER!"

If the two AFL sides are out, we're down to 8, there's going to be every realistic chance other clubs will not survive and if they do they'll be back to amateur level payments ( or less! ) at best. Hardly time to rejoice.

The amateur league payments are going to tank, who is going to "donate" the type of money that was going around? If you get the AFL teams out of it and market the league correctly, we may just get the audience back who believe in a competition with integrity.

What I will agree with you on is that now is no time to rejoice. It is a time for reflection and I wonder what conclusions the community is going to reach at the end of this.

[FlyingHigh]

The AFL in SA is going to have a real issue to get back to where it was after we return to normal business and citizen conditions. Besides the crows grand final year, attendance has declined each year since the 2014 Adelaide Oval development. Power similar, although crowds tanked in 2016 but recovered an average 2000 in 18 and 19 but still well below 2014. So the honeymoon period is over and the only way to make more money was to price gouge food and drink for the poor sods who attend the games.

As for the current pandemic, Dangerfields representation of the players demands is a bloody bad look no matter the context, and it will take a long time for the pubic to forget. North Melbourne players having the police called out due to noise complaints after they celebrate their win during a period of real heightened public anguish (or panic) is another incident that will take a while to forget. Articles such as this are appearing https://www.smh.com.au/sport/sport-can-be-truly-enriching-and-rewarding-again-just-not-with-money-20200326-p54ect.html (Cue Ben Hook on 891 Drive making similar observations) and it is not hard to imagine there will be a good couple of years of genuine economic hardship where there will be an expectation that professional sportsmen play for a pittance of current salaries. Will the general population look at high paid sports people in the same way. I hope not, surely after an event such as this we will realise that the most important thing we have has been staring us in the face the whole time, COMMUNITY. AFL teams, particularly in SA do not represent our community.

SANFL needs to market its product as "Lets get back to basics and support your community, SANFL clubs = Community." They need to show the lads who are studying, tradesmen, labourers etc and then show them playing. Professional sports needs to be shown for what it is, shallow commercialisation of a game that we all love. Sure it produces a spectacle, but is also produces a guy like Dangerfield who represents a body of players that will try and screw the sport for as much as possible.

It really depends on how long this virus is around, how long and deep economic hardship is, and how quickly the AFL try to return as closely as possible to the glory days. Whilst I would love to see the game played for the sake of the game again, around packed suburban ovals, that really is schadenfreude.

[wild dog]

The AFL in SA is going to have a real issue to get back to where it was after we return to normal business and citizen conditions. Besides the crows grand final year, attendance has declined each year since the 2014 Adelaide Oval development. Power similar, although crowds tanked in 2016 but recovered an average 2000 in 18 and 19 but still well below 2014. So the honeymoon period is over and the only way to make more money was to price gouge food and drink for the poor sods who attend the games.

As for the current pandemic, Dangerfields representation of the players demands is a bloody bad look no matter the context, and it will take a long time for the pubic to forget. North Melbourne players having the police called out due to noise complaints after they celebrate their win during a period of real heightened public anguish (or panic) is another incident that will take a while to forget. Articles such as this are appearing https://www.smh.com.au/sport/sport-can-be-truly-enriching-and-rewarding-again-just-not-with-money-20200326-p54ect.html (Cue Ben Hook on 891 Drive making similar observations) and it is not hard to imagine there will be a good couple of years of genuine economic hardship where there will be an expectation that professional sportsmen play for a pittance of current salaries. Will the general population look at high paid sports people in the same way. I hope not, surely after an event such as this we will realise that the most important thing we have has been staring us in the face the whole time, COMMUNITY. AFL teams, particularly in SA do not represent our community.

SANFL needs to market its product as "Lets get back to basics and support your community, SANFL clubs = Community." They need to show the lads who are studying, tradesmen, labourers etc and then show them playing. Professional sports needs to be shown for what it is, shallow commercialisation of a game that we all love. Sure it produces a spectacle, but is also produces a guy like Dangerfield who represents a body of players that will try and screw the sport for as much as possible.

It really depends on how long this virus is around, how long and deep economic hardship is, and how quickly the AFL try to return as closely as possible to the glory days. Whilst I would love to see the game played for the sake of the game again, around packed suburban ovals, that really is schadenfreude.

Misrepresent that comment as much as you like, I take no pleasure in the current situation and will derive no satisfaction in any organisation suffering. My club has closed its doors and after years of hard fought gains it is now going to be a close thing to survive. What I would like to see is a return to community values as opposed to the selfishness currently being displayed by the AFL players association.

[stan]

Afl clubs looking to drastically cut lists to save money next year.


Down to as many as 36 so no afl reserves in our comp looking more likely.


To anyone who gave the old “they are here to stay just get over it “. You couldn’t of been more wrong

Needed a virus to kill a cancer hey days?

It makes sense, smaller lists no reserves teams. Just took a global pandemic to get to that point.

[stan]

Afl clubs looking to drastically cut lists to save money next year.


Down to as many as 36 so no afl reserves in our comp looking more likely.


To anyone who gave the old “they are here to stay just get over it “. You couldn’t of been more wrong

Wait, whoa, hang on, you think we're wrong because we didn't predict a global pandemic and economic disaster?

Tssk, silly us.

WAFW.

Yeah you dropped ball on this one.

[FlyingHigh]

The AFL in SA is going to have a real issue to get back to where it was after we return to normal business and citizen conditions. Besides the crows grand final year, attendance has declined each year since the 2014 Adelaide Oval development. Power similar, although crowds tanked in 2016 but recovered an average 2000 in 18 and 19 but still well below 2014. So the honeymoon period is over and the only way to make more money was to price gouge food and drink for the poor sods who attend the games.

As for the current pandemic, Dangerfields representation of the players demands is a bloody bad look no matter the context, and it will take a long time for the pubic to forget. North Melbourne players having the police called out due to noise complaints after they celebrate their win during a period of real heightened public anguish (or panic) is another incident that will take a while to forget. Articles such as this are appearing https://www.smh.com.au/sport/sport-can-be-truly-enriching-and-rewarding-again-just-not-with-money-20200326-p54ect.html (Cue Ben Hook on 891 Drive making similar observations) and it is not hard to imagine there will be a good couple of years of genuine economic hardship where there will be an expectation that professional sportsmen play for a pittance of current salaries. Will the general population look at high paid sports people in the same way. I hope not, surely after an event such as this we will realise that the most important thing we have has been staring us in the face the whole time, COMMUNITY. AFL teams, particularly in SA do not represent our community.

SANFL needs to market its product as "Lets get back to basics and support your community, SANFL clubs = Community." They need to show the lads who are studying, tradesmen, labourers etc and then show them playing. Professional sports needs to be shown for what it is, shallow commercialisation of a game that we all love. Sure it produces a spectacle, but is also produces a guy like Dangerfield who represents a body of players that will try and screw the sport for as much as possible.

It really depends on how long this virus is around, how long and deep economic hardship is, and how quickly the AFL try to return as closely as possible to the glory days. Whilst I would love to see the game played for the sake of the game again, around packed suburban ovals, that really is schadenfreude.

Misrepresent that comment as much as you like, I take no pleasure in the current situation and will derive no satisfaction in any organisation suffering. My club has closed its doors and after years of hard fought gains it is now going to be a close thing to survive. What I would like to see is a return to community values as opposed to the selfishness currently being displayed by the AFL players association.

My comment about schadenfreude I was trying to direct at myself. I apologise if it came over as me having a go at you.

[UK Fan]

Afl clubs looking to drastically cut lists to save money next year.


Down to as many as 36 so no afl reserves in our comp looking more likely.


To anyone who gave the old “they are here to stay just get over it “. You couldn’t of been more wrong

Wait, whoa, hang on, you think we're wrong because we didn't predict a global pandemic and economic disaster?

Tssk, silly us.

WAFW.

No because you only signed a 15 year lease mate.

Didn’t your ego think of that........

No more magpies what a shame Mr Boon.

[UK Fan]

On the contrary I think the ramifications of COVID-19 makes them more likely to stay

36 player lists means they'll just (be allowed to) recruit another 20 players and pay them the minuscule top up wage to be on their State league list instead of the current Rookie wage under the AFL players agreement.

With the AFL and it's clubs cutting back costs in the new post COVID-19 world I've got more chance of seeing snow in Darwin in the next 10 years than an AFL reserves competition….

Nope they need to cut back drastically. Approx $1.4. Mill a year to run a reserves side will be the first thing to go.


There is talks of going back to the old system of afl players being scattered over the sanfl clubs.

Early days but The SANFL is preparing for a future without the scum having their own teams in our comp
due to cost cutting.

Suckede schizen AFL fans.

[UK Fan]

Afl clubs looking to drastically cut lists to save money next year.


Down to as many as 36 so no afl reserves in our comp looking more likely.


To anyone who gave the old “they are here to stay just get over it “. You couldn’t of been more wrong

to quote The Castle,
"YOU BLOODY RIPPER!"

If the two AFL sides are out, we're down to 8, there's going to be every realistic chance other clubs will not survive and if they do they'll be back to amateur level payments ( or less! ) at best. Hardly time to rejoice.

Are you trying to claim the only reason sanfl clubs are still alive is because AFL clubs are in the SANFL. How has PAFC contributed to saving anything but themselves in the last decade. You didn’t even Make your scheduled licence Payment due to no funds last season.

Just when you think mr PAFC happy clapper couldn’t get any dumber.

[UK Fan]

Afl clubs looking to drastically cut lists to save money next year.


Down to as many as 36 so no afl reserves in our comp looking more likely.


To anyone who gave the old “they are here to stay just get over it “. You couldn’t of been more wrong

Wait, whoa, hang on, you think we're wrong because we didn't predict a global pandemic and economic disaster?

Tssk, silly us.

WAFW.

At the risk of being called a wanker by a Port tragic, what we said was when the circumstances are such that the AFL does not want to be in the SANFL, they will ditch us like a used condom on Hanson Rd.

Great post. What a 150 year celebration it has been for PAFC. No China, no footy, One more season of ken, scoreboard derelict and no more magpies due to one club needs to make cuts.

[Booney]

Afl clubs looking to drastically cut lists to save money next year.


Down to as many as 36 so no afl reserves in our comp looking more likely.


To anyone who gave the old “they are here to stay just get over it “. You couldn’t of been more wrong

Wait, whoa, hang on, you think we're wrong because we didn't predict a global pandemic and economic disaster?

Tssk, silly us.

WAFW.

Yeah you dropped ball on this one.

Can't believe I didn't see this coming.

[Booney]

Are you trying to claim the only reason sanfl clubs are still alive is because AFL clubs are in the SANFL. How has PAFC contributed to saving anything but themselves in the last decade. You didn’t even Make your scheduled licence Payment due to no funds last season.

Just when you think mr PAFC happy clapper couldn’t get any dumber.

How did you draw that conclusion?

It's widely known two, maybe three, SANFL clubs were in poor financial positions before this relying very much on gaming and social club revenue, without that there's every chance those clubs may not survive beyond this event.

When you put 2 + 2 together and get 17 I'll be here to help.

[LMA]

Quality specimen.

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[UK Fan]

Are you trying to claim the only reason sanfl clubs are still alive is because AFL clubs are in the SANFL. How has PAFC contributed to saving anything but themselves in the last decade. You didn’t even Make your scheduled licence Payment due to no funds last season.

Just when you think mr PAFC happy clapper couldn’t get any dumber.

How did you draw that conclusion?

It's widely known two, maybe three, SANFL clubs were in poor financial positions before this relying very much on gaming and social club revenue, without that there's every chance those clubs may not survive beyond this event.

When you put 2 + 2 together and get 17 I'll be here to help.

What the $50k a season we get from the crows for raping our league has turned everyone around financially. Not even you are so blind to believe that.

PAFC have deliberately negotiated that they contribute nothing to the league financially. And by doing so have saved all the SANFL clubs in the process ??

Please stop happy clapping that the afl clubs entering the league did good for anyone but the AFL clubs.

You can’t even afford saving your scoreboard and magpies atm. Yet alone anything outside the PAFC.

[Booney]

THEY WERE BROKE WITH THE $50K AND NO SHUT DOWN.

[stan]

Daisy getting angry today.

[UK Fan]

Quality specimen.

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Thanks Brett.

PAFC 150th year get on board.

[LMA]

Daisy getting angry today.

Or he on da crackpipe