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Re: 2024 AFL Silly Season

Postby am Bays » Mon Oct 14, 2024 3:55 pm

wenchbarwer wrote:
Jim05 wrote:I’m certain the Suns exist just to make stupid trades every year


Certainly not doing much for Jez McLennan's chances of being relisted


Port are all in on next year's SANFL flag...
Let that be a lesson to you Port, no one beats the Bays five times in a row in a GF and gets away with it!!!
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Re: 2024 AFL Silly Season

Postby Trader » Mon Oct 14, 2024 4:06 pm

I don't really follow the trade stuff, normally just wait til its over and look at what actually happened, rather than all the speculation, of which 90% seems to not happen.

But if Atkinson is moving, is this a salary cap manoeuvre more so than getting the actual player?

Ie: Say GC didn't want to give up 13, but will do so if they can also offload Atkinson's 5th year contract, and Port have cap space so happy to take it on for 1 year in order to get pick 13 as part of the Houston out, Jack L in deal?

(No idea, just guessing, as it seems very strange that Port would otherwise look at Rory).
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Re: 2024 AFL Silly Season

Postby wenchbarwer » Mon Oct 14, 2024 4:10 pm

From memory, he wasn't on big dollars, just a long deal. I have no idea how he would be of any value, unless as stated earlier the Pear are going all out to win a SANFL flag
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Re: 2024 AFL Silly Season

Postby bertiebeatle1 » Mon Oct 14, 2024 4:15 pm

It's a salary dump, we have plenty of cap space. He's on 400k for his last year which would be well below average wage now. He won't (i hope) play AFL, strengthens the ressies so meh. If it's given us an extra pick by taking his salary then so be it
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Re: 2024 AFL Silly Season

Postby am Bays » Mon Oct 14, 2024 4:17 pm

bertiebeatle1 wrote:It's a salary dump, we have plenty of cap space. He's on 400k for his last year which would be well below average wage now. He won't (i hope) play AFL, strengthens the ressies so meh. If it's given us an extra pick by taking his salary then so be it


Says a lot about how F***ed up the Australian football system is when Rory Atkins' salary is greater than the SANFL salary cap :evil: :evil:
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Re: 2024 AFL Silly Season

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Oct 14, 2024 4:19 pm

Trader wrote:I don't really follow the trade stuff, normally just wait til its over and look at what actually happened, rather than all the speculation, of which 90% seems to not happen.

But if Atkinson is moving, is this a salary cap manoeuvre more so than getting the actual player?

Ie: Say GC didn't want to give up 13, but will do so if they can also offload Atkinson's 5th year contract, and Port have cap space so happy to take it on for 1 year in order to get pick 13 as part of the Houston out, Jack L in deal?

(No idea, just guessing, as it seems very strange that Port would otherwise look at Rory).


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Re: 2024 AFL Silly Season

Postby Armchair expert » Mon Oct 14, 2024 4:53 pm

Atkins > Boak on the wing in 2025
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Re: 2024 AFL Silly Season

Postby Trader » Mon Oct 14, 2024 5:12 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
Trader wrote:I don't really follow the trade stuff, normally just wait til its over and look at what actually happened, rather than all the speculation, of which 90% seems to not happen.

But if Atkinson is moving, is this a salary cap manoeuvre more so than getting the actual player?

Ie: Say GC didn't want to give up 13, but will do so if they can also offload Atkinson's 5th year contract, and Port have cap space so happy to take it on for 1 year in order to get pick 13 as part of the Houston out, Jack L in deal?

(No idea, just guessing, as it seems very strange that Port would otherwise look at Rory).


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So not a play at a future father son prospect either? Haha
Makes it even stranger that the suns feel the need to dump the salary if it’s as low as $400k.

Oh and apparently we are the ones giving up 13, not getting 13. Shows how closely I follow this stuff.

Seems strange that we’d be giving up a first round pick and a two time AA, to get in a bloke the suns told to explore his option AND taking on a salary dump.

Perhaps this Richards bloke I’ve never heard of is better than I realised.
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Re: 2024 AFL Silly Season

Postby tigerpie » Mon Oct 14, 2024 5:23 pm

Richards could be a jet. Good hands, keeps a cool head.

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Re: 2024 AFL Silly Season

Postby Brodlach » Mon Oct 14, 2024 5:36 pm

What it could be

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Re: 2024 AFL Silly Season

Postby Dutchy » Mon Oct 14, 2024 5:38 pm

bertiebeatle1 wrote:It's a salary dump, we have plenty of cap space. He's on 400k for his last year which would be well below average wage now. He won't (i hope) play AFL, strengthens the ressies so meh. If it's given us an extra pick by taking his salary then so be it


All part of Kenny's "now" strategy, hard to see that if they had a new coach they would be executing stuff like this. :shock:
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Re: 2024 AFL Silly Season

Postby mots02 » Mon Oct 14, 2024 5:39 pm

Brodlach wrote:Rory Atkins to Port is hilarious


Can't wait to see Booney spin this one as a positive ;) :lol:
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Re: 2024 AFL Silly Season

Postby Jim05 » Mon Oct 14, 2024 5:52 pm

bertiebeatle1 wrote:It's a salary dump, we have plenty of cap space. He's on 400k for his last year which would be well below average wage now. He won't (i hope) play AFL, strengthens the ressies so meh. If it's given us an extra pick by taking his salary then so be it
Exactly. It’s purely a salary dump and allows Lukosius to be traded in for less
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Re: 2024 AFL Silly Season

Postby bertiebeatle1 » Mon Oct 14, 2024 5:59 pm

Dutchy wrote:
bertiebeatle1 wrote:It's a salary dump, we have plenty of cap space. He's on 400k for his last year which would be well below average wage now. He won't (i hope) play AFL, strengthens the ressies so meh. If it's given us an extra pick by taking his salary then so be it


All part of Kenny's "now" strategy, hard to see that if they had a new coach they would be executing stuff like this. :shock:


Lol, it probably means both Narkle & Evans both get cut, it’s a 1 yr deal that isn’t costing us anything. The over dramatising everywhere is ridiculous
. If it’s helped us with the trade by absorbing his salary then great
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Re: 2024 AFL Silly Season

Postby Armchair expert » Mon Oct 14, 2024 6:01 pm

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Re: 2024 AFL Silly Season

Postby bertiebeatle1 » Mon Oct 14, 2024 6:08 pm

Armchair expert wrote:Image

From Callum Twomey on twitter


Just reading his daily article, mentions it sits with port who might be looking for another late pick (neither here or there for me)

I know a lot of port ppl think we’ve been reamed but I don’t think the deal is that bad
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Re: 2024 AFL Silly Season

Postby Armchair expert » Mon Oct 14, 2024 6:11 pm

Pies have been reamed if that is the final deal imo

Richards for 58 fair enough
Houston for next years first heavily academy rorted draft good deal but add Noble who they wanted a good pick for and pick 36 in a good draft then its overs
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Re: 2024 AFL Silly Season

Postby Dutchy » Mon Oct 14, 2024 6:16 pm

bertiebeatle1 wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
bertiebeatle1 wrote:It's a salary dump, we have plenty of cap space. He's on 400k for his last year which would be well below average wage now. He won't (i hope) play AFL, strengthens the ressies so meh. If it's given us an extra pick by taking his salary then so be it


All part of Kenny's "now" strategy, hard to see that if they had a new coach they would be executing stuff like this. :shock:


Lol, it probably means both Narkle & Evans both get cut, it’s a 1 yr deal that isn’t costing us anything. The over dramatising everywhere is ridiculous
. If it’s helped us with the trade by absorbing his salary then great


Holding someone on your list who is more than likely not going to play AFL or give that spot to a kid with potential to play 200+ games.

Tell me that isn't a "now" decision....

Port can do what they want, but we can also call it for what it is.
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Re: 2024 AFL Silly Season

Postby tigerpie » Mon Oct 14, 2024 6:18 pm

Armchair expert wrote:Pies have been reamed if that is the final deal imo

Richards for 58 fair enough
Houston for next years first heavily academy rorted draft good deal but add Noble who they wanted a good pick for and pick 36 in a good draft then its overs

He'd want to play well and injury free next year.
Him and 58, we lose Noble and Richards and future first rounder.
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Re: 2024 AFL Silly Season

Postby DOC » Mon Oct 14, 2024 6:23 pm

Has this gone through?

Collingwood get a halfback flanker give up plenty?
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