Great Southern Football League

[wenchbarwer]

B Kennedy announced at Kingston


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All these were announced on here a week ago

Is Nobes going to be an influence?

Didn't he have a bad leg break that ended his season this year? Mobility isn't his 1 wood at the best of times, and he's had more clubs than Minners has!

[Dutchy]

Plus GSFL is a fair step up from Div 4 footy

[wenchbarwer]

Plus GSFL is a fair step up from Div 4 footy

He'll be the bear in the square, had a decent record at Christies and cracked the league team at South as well a couple of years ago.

One out, he's bloody hard to stop.

[field of dreams]

B Kennedy announced at Kingston


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All these were announced on here a week ago

Is Nobes going to be an influence?

Yeah I know…..officially

Heard they were leaving months ago

Ross to Kangarilla was ‘announced’ here too


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[UpThere]

Plus GSFL is a fair step up from Div 4 footy

He'll be the bear in the square, had a decent record at Christies and cracked the league team at South as well a couple of years ago.

One out, he's bloody hard to stop.

IMO he will kick over 80 goals next season, from all reports his recovery from the leg break and general fitness / health has improved greatly. Be interesting to see how he goes.

[inthestands]

Points allowances came out. McLaren, Pongy and Willunga all provided 2
Points off 2024 players if they register in 2025.
Nothing wrong with old system bottom clubs had got to top……. Pongy, Victor, McLaren.

Some very digruntled lads at Langhorne. Would expect one or two may end up at Brighton with Clint Godwin taking over.

Strath looking like losing a couple of their best players…..

Heard third hand that key guy at Pongy left triggering an exodus with Cock, Kelly, Proude and Kennedy’s moving on. Could be headed to Brighton or Shocs his mate said. Anyone know more?

Why is Victor posting local players recommitting??? They would have to be still hurting after the GF.

Has Minervini won a flag anywhere?? Hoffman and MacDonald recomm

[field of dreams]

Points allowances came out. McLaren, Pongy and Willunga all provided 2
Points off 2024 players if they register in 2025.
Nothing wrong with old system bottom clubs had got to top……. Pongy, Victor, McLaren.

Haha. We all know they’ll find a present a case why they deserve extra discretionary points….and they’ll be granted.

Imagine my surprise….


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[field of dreams]

Whilst I can kinda understand as the new points system meant those 3 clubs have less points available than they had on their existing lists (eg pongy go from 13 this year to 6 next year and they would have had 9 if the old system continued).
They get to reduce the points of 2 existing players by 1 point each. (For 2025 only- they return to normal in 2026). They cannot be used for other players. So that is better than just giving them extra points.

BUT the new system was known about at the start of the year and the league postponed it’s introduction so clubs should have been preparing…..

It will make the other clubs very shitty. They were always going to ask….and they were always going to get them!


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[Local GSFL Man]

any word on yanks new coach?

[Cheap Seats]

Whilst I can kinda understand as the new points system meant those 3 clubs have less points available than they had on their existing lists (eg pongy go from 13 this year to 6 next year and they would have had 9 if the old system continued).
They get to reduce the points of 2 existing players by 1 point each. (For 2025 only- they return to normal in 2026). They cannot be used for other players. So that is better than just giving them extra points.

BUT the new system was known about at the start of the year and the league postponed it’s introduction so clubs should have been preparing…..

It will make the other clubs very shitty. They were always going to ask….and they were always going to get them!


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The GSFL can try and play this down or make reference to existing squads etc etc, but the reality is, any reduction in player points allows clubs to recruit stronger then they previously would have been able to do.
What if Yank or Goolwa or Us are trying to recruit the same person, and one of the 3 CLUBS THAT HAVE WON THE LAST 4 PREMIERSHIPS that wouldn't have without this concession had the ability to speak to them, now do? How is that the point of what the points system was bought in for? Natural attrition always happens, and by making this decision the league is helping out those who should need it least, as all 3 are the closest to Adelaide and the Southern suburbs and have been VERY SUCCESSFUL at Senior Colt and reserve level. Its beyond belief.
If the other 7 clubs dont fight this to the death, I'd be very surprised.
And they all had 12 months to prepare, just as all the other 7 clubs did, many of whom specifically went out and recruited back 0 pointers to their clubs instead of 4 / 3 & 2 pointers.

[Newkid]

Creek are on the hunt for a new A’grade coach…. A few Players telling the club it’s them or him!!

[jackpot jim]

Creek are on the hunt for a new A’grade coach…. A few Players telling the club it’s them or him!!

There was a lot of negative noise when Galbraith was appointed
Creek lost a HUGE amount of experience and Talent as players left (to be fair for many reasons tho at least a few because of his appointment)
Creek surprised everyone by making the finals with the squad they had and at the same time got games into young up and coming players which is a big tick.
Lost their last 6 games of the season but they were hit hard by injuries at the back end of the season and apart from Mt Compass were all to the Top teams.
Rumour was that if he saw out his 2 year contract the Club would be without more players next season.
Big decision by the committee to make to admit they may have not got it right
Time will tell i guess but i think Hawk supporters and players will rally around the new coach (Whoever it will be) with great enthusiasm as they're not that far away from going deep into finals again

[Cheap Seats]

Whilst I can kinda understand as the new points system meant those 3 clubs have less points available than they had on their existing lists (eg pongy go from 13 this year to 6 next year and they would have had 9 if the old system continued).
They get to reduce the points of 2 existing players by 1 point each. (For 2025 only- they return to normal in 2026). They cannot be used for other players. So that is better than just giving them extra points.

BUT the new system was known about at the start of the year and the league postponed it’s introduction so clubs should have been preparing…..

It will make the other clubs very shitty. They were always going to ask….and they were always going to get them!


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The GSFL can try and play this down or make reference to existing squads etc etc, but the reality is, any reduction in player points allows clubs to recruit stronger then they previously would have been able to do.
What if Yank or Goolwa or Us are trying to recruit the same person, and one of the 3 CLUBS THAT HAVE WON THE LAST 4 PREMIERSHIPS that wouldn't have without this concession had the ability to speak to them, now do? How is that the point of what the points system was bought in for? Natural attrition always happens, and by making this decision the league is helping out those who should need it least, as all 3 are the closest to Adelaide and the Southern suburbs and have been VERY SUCCESSFUL at Senior Colt and reserve level. Its beyond belief.
If the other 7 clubs dont fight this to the death, I'd be very surprised.
And they all had 12 months to prepare, just as all the other 7 clubs did, many of whom specifically went out and recruited back 0 pointers to their clubs instead of 4 / 3 & 2 pointers.

Just wondering what is meant by "Return to normal for 2026" FOD (if you have an idea) as I'm sure they wont freeze the same points levels and make them stay on the same points for 2 years in a row for those players that receive the point off, so essentially a 4 point player like Wilkins is going to become a 0 pointer in 2 years, because assuming he stays around he'll get the addition point the 3rd year after playing 20+ games

I say again, it's a JOKE. I wonder what the Community footy Board have to say, with their new points system being disregarded for the purpose of helping the 3 most successful clubs in a league for the past 4 years

[field of dreams]

The way I understand it (using Wilkins as the example as you have). Originally he would have been:
2024 4 points
2025 3 points
2026 1 point (with the 20+ reduction)
2027 0 point

Now if they allocate the -1 to him he would be:
2024 4 points
2025 2 points
2026 1 point (with the 20+ reduction and the -1 reversed)
2027 0 points


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[field of dreams]

If the other 7 clubs dont fight this to the death, I'd be very surprised.

Thats what jungle drums are saying.


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[field of dreams]

Interestingly, it looks like McLaren and Willunga could benefit most from this.

Pongy:
Butcher 1 or 0?
Cooper 2
Wilkins 3
Shillabeer 2

8 Less 2 points is 6. And they have 6 available.

Willunga:
Redden 3 (didn’t play in 2024))
Lovett 2. ( played Bs all 2024)
Swanson 2 (played Bs all 2024)
Schmid 1 (16 A grade in 2024)
Sowter 2 ( played 3 As in 2024)
Dumesny 2 (5 As, 14 for South)

So 12 points on their list in theory. But Schmid was the only regular A grader, guessing Sowter got injured? With 9 available they could have 8 or 9 points available to recruit.

McLaren:
Jarrett 2
Venning 2
McMahon 2
All A graders = 6

Habib 2 (B grader)
Cooper 2 (DNP in 24, 23 was div7 Res)

So 6 points less 2 =4, with 6 available.


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[Cheap Seats]

The way I understand it (using Wilkins as the example as you have). Originally he would have been:
2024 4 points
2025 3 points
2026 1 point (with the 20+ reduction)
2027 0 point

Now if they allocate the -1 to him he would be:
2024 4 points
2025 2 points
2026 1 point (with the 20+ reduction and the -1 reversed)
2027 0 points


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Thats an interesting take, as the correspondence I've seen (although 3rd hand) has no mention of a -1 point reversal in 2026? 15-18 months not enough time to prepare for these clubs?
From the CFB Points policy:
10 Team League APPS Model
Group 1 – Teams - 1 & 2 – 6 points
Group 2 – Teams – 3 & 4 – 9 points
Group 3 – Teams – 5, 6 & 7 – 12 points
Group 4 – Teams – 8, 9 & 10 – 15 points
Total League Allocation – 150 points
Sliding Scale Allocation – 111 points
Discretionary Points – 39 points
League Discretionary Points (no prior approval required unless Club’s are over fifteen
(15 total points):
Out of the discretionary points allocation, the Affiliated League can only use nineteen
(19) points which may relate to issues including smaller population, geographic and
lack of success issues.

[Cheap Seats]

I'm hearing an email has been sent, and compelling information has been provided, like 14 of the last 18 available premierships (last 3 years) have been won by these 3 clubs in Senior colts, Reserves & A Grade combined. And now they're crying poor us!

Just from my own perspective I think in 2021, 4 of the 6 spots were from these 3 again, so it could be increased to 18 of the last 24 GF spots taken by these 3 clubs.

Thats 3/4 of GF's made by 3/10's of clubs (good on them by the way) but don't put your hand out, cry hard done by, and ask for extra points.

I say again JOKE!

[Killa]

Interestingly, it looks like McLaren and Willunga could benefit most from this.

Pongy:
Butcher 1 or 0?
Cooper 2
Wilkins 3
Shillabeer 2

8 Less 2 points is 6. And they have 6 available.

Willunga:
Redden 3 (didn’t play in 2024))
Lovett 2. ( played Bs all 2024)
Swanson 2 (played Bs all 2024)
Schmid 1 (16 A grade in 2024)
Sowter 2 ( played 3 As in 2024)
Dumesny 2 (5 As, 14 for South)

So 12 points on their list in theory. But Schmid was the only regular A grader, guessing Sowter got injured? With 9 available they could have 8 or 9 points available to recruit.

McLaren:
Jarrett 2
Venning 2
McMahon 2
All A graders = 6

Habib 2 (B grader)
Cooper 2 (DNP in 24, 23 was div7 Res)

So 6 points less 2 =4, with 6 available.


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Have heard last years premiers do not have any available points to recruit. They have also lost a few players as already reported on here.

[inthestands]

I was forwarded a copy of the email. Very typical it comes from Victor.
Is the expectation that the clubs should delist points players?? Victor claim they suffered a bigger points shock than McLaren and Willunga, didn’t want to mention Myponga which is bigger. The way I see it;
Pongy have 8 points listed for 2025 from players that played this year. 2 points applied to 2024 players means they played with 6 as allocated. Only way they meet 6 with out the 2 discretionary is to offload one of the players that joined the club this year??
McLaren and Willunga have points players in the 2’s and the gsfl approach makes it harder to use the 2 as ‘extras’. McLaren played with 2 points in the prelim?? Jarrett got dropped.
Getting off the bottom and competing for flags is not a 1, 2, 3 year process. Anyone forget where Myponga were 5 years ago?? Or Victor Harbor?? Or McLaren 10 years ago? Eagles and Mudlarks won flags for the first time in 20 plus years for eagles in 2022 and Pongy 40 years this year. If Victor won would have been first for 25. The system as it existed worked if you look at that.
As far as reserves and juniors, go back in time 5 years ago when Pongy and Yank senior colts were combined?? People forget so quick and jump on any team who has a bit of success after hard work.
The bit that made me laugh the most was when it said that discretionary points are for small population, lack of success or geography and says that these clubs don’t meet any of these criteria… I wonder if they checked the population of Myponga compared with Victor…. 393 in 2016 compared with
14,655 same census. What constitutes qualifying for small population? 393 must be to many.
I just don’t get why the Roos have to carry on like they do. All these ‘resignings’ of local lads is laughable. Next thing McLaren will be promoting Muff or Reg Moyle as resignings!! Today they congratulated 9 players for being in Top 25 coaches mvp. First 25 players listed has 4 of them. The number of equal placed makes it seem so much more. There’s 50 players on the list published. Don’t throw stones.
That being said they’ve done well keeping Heaslip and co. Ross was chased hard by Kangarilla and no doubt Heaslip would have received some big offers elsewhere!! They’ll be banking on more games from Gibbs and Curran to sign on to try and get the flag on their home deck. Heard mclaren have a couple of big signings all but done. Willunga have signed big Daniel Nobes which will straighten them up. Ebay have a couple of good signings which will help them progress further and Pongy will be desperate to get Hayden Sampson across the line.
Creek are sounding out coaches I hear. Will be interesting to see what happens there. Ben Simounds has gone to Keith with Marc Elliot leaving to. Big losses for them. GPE have signed a couple of good ones hopefully they can get a few more.