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Re: AFL Round 1 2025

Postby Spargo » Tue Mar 18, 2025 12:12 pm

MW wrote:
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Armchair expert wrote:Can't be serious guys, Clearly had his head over the ball, Archer has a duty of care which he did not uphold.

Pulling out of the contest was the right thing to do in this situation.


Clearly went to ground by himself, thats on him, he also didnt protect himself from contact he knew was coming, thats also on him. He contributed to the unfortunate concussion more than anyone else. He is very lucky Arch didn't do his knee or break his leg.


This is some elite victim blaming
One went low and hard at the ball, the other ran upright over the top and knocked him out.

Chose to go to ground, taking out Archer’s legs which the AFL brought in a rule to deter players from doing. Call it what you like, Cleary is in the wrong regardless of the outcome.
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Re: AFL Round 1 2025

Postby Dutchy » Tue Mar 18, 2025 12:13 pm

You cant go "low and hard" anymore and if you do, expect to give away a free kick, you are focusing on the outcome and not the process that got him into that position.
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Re: AFL Round 1 2025

Postby Booney » Tue Mar 18, 2025 12:15 pm

It's as reckless an action as we've seen for a while.
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Re: AFL Round 1 2025

Postby dedja » Tue Mar 18, 2025 12:17 pm

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Re: AFL Round 1 2025

Postby Booney » Tue Mar 18, 2025 12:19 pm

Spargo wrote:Chose to go to ground, taking out Archer’s legs which the AFL brought in a rule to deter players from doing. Call it what you like, Cleary is in the wrong regardless of the outcome.


One bloke went to win the ball and the other went tear arsing in with no idea what he was doing.
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Re: AFL Round 1 2025

Postby wenchbarwer » Tue Mar 18, 2025 12:21 pm

Booney wrote:
Spargo wrote:Chose to go to ground, taking out Archer’s legs which the AFL brought in a rule to deter players from doing. Call it what you like, Cleary is in the wrong regardless of the outcome.


One bloke went to win the ball and the other went tear arsing in with no idea what he was doing.


If Cleary stayed upright, what would have happened then? A Houston v Rankine collision?
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Re: AFL Round 1 2025

Postby cracka » Tue Mar 18, 2025 12:23 pm

Spargo wrote:
MW wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
Armchair expert wrote:Can't be serious guys, Clearly had his head over the ball, Archer has a duty of care which he did not uphold.

Pulling out of the contest was the right thing to do in this situation.


Clearly went to ground by himself, thats on him, he also didnt protect himself from contact he knew was coming, thats also on him. He contributed to the unfortunate concussion more than anyone else. He is very lucky Arch didn't do his knee or break his leg.


This is some elite victim blaming
One went low and hard at the ball, the other ran upright over the top and knocked him out.

Chose to go to ground, taking out Archer’s legs which the AFL brought in a rule to deter players from doing. Call it what you like, Cleary is in the wrong regardless of the outcome.

I thought that was for players sliding into opposition players legs, not for players who stumbled with their head over the ball while under pressure. It wasn't just Archer, there was another North player right behind him
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Re: AFL Round 1 2025

Postby Zelezny Chucks » Tue Mar 18, 2025 12:26 pm

He goes to ground at the last moment, Archer takes a few smaller steps to slow up so knows he isn't getting the ball but is ready to tackle the standing player. How can you be rubbed out for 3 weeks because the bloke fell over? It's an accident that happened because one player was lower than expected at the critical moment. Neither player did anything deliberately it was just an unfortunate collision.

Shouldn't even be cited but here we are. What sh!ts me is Scrimshaw who swings and arm and hits someone high (non-football act) gets the same 3 weeks and Toby Greene the week before knees a guy in the guts (non-football act and has priors) fine and play on.

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Re: AFL Round 1 2025

Postby Dutchy » Tue Mar 18, 2025 12:28 pm

He chose to go to ground, once you do that you cannot take the legs out of anyone. If he got pushed or tackled to the ground thats a different story, but in the case instead of stepping over the ball and protecting himself from the pressure coming he collapsed and Arch had nowhere to go.
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Re: AFL Round 1 2025

Postby cracka » Tue Mar 18, 2025 12:30 pm

Dutchy wrote:He chose to go to ground, once you do that you cannot take the legs out of anyone. If he got pushed or tackled to the ground thats a different story, but in the case instead of stepping over the ball and protecting himself from the pressure coming he collapsed and Arch had nowhere to go.

He was under a fair bit of pressure from behind long before Archer arrived
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Re: AFL Round 1 2025

Postby Booney » Tue Mar 18, 2025 12:38 pm

Well I don't know what vision you blokes are looking at.

Ultimately there's no point arguing it because it's a fair dinkum raffle at the tribunal at the best of times let alone in contentious ones.
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Re: AFL Round 1 2025

Postby Spargo » Tue Mar 18, 2025 12:39 pm

cracka wrote:
Dutchy wrote:He chose to go to ground, once you do that you cannot take the legs out of anyone. If he got pushed or tackled to the ground thats a different story, but in the case instead of stepping over the ball and protecting himself from the pressure coming he collapsed and Arch had nowhere to go.

He was under a fair bit of pressure from behind long before Archer arrived

That didn’t cause him to go to ground
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Re: AFL Round 1 2025

Postby Armchair expert » Tue Mar 18, 2025 5:41 pm

Archer ban upheld
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Re: AFL Round 1 2025

Postby saintal » Tue Mar 18, 2025 5:43 pm

Armchair expert wrote:Archer ban upheld


Terrible decision.
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Re: AFL Round 1 2025

Postby Booney » Tue Mar 18, 2025 6:14 pm

Booney wrote:
Spargo wrote:Chose to go to ground, taking out Archer’s legs which the AFL brought in a rule to deter players from doing. Call it what you like, Cleary is in the wrong regardless of the outcome.


One bloke went to win the ball and the other went tear arsing in with no idea what he was doing.


Basically what the tribunal said.
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Re: AFL Round 1 2025

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Tue Mar 18, 2025 7:00 pm

Booney wrote:
Booney wrote:
Spargo wrote:Chose to go to ground, taking out Archer’s legs which the AFL brought in a rule to deter players from doing. Call it what you like, Cleary is in the wrong regardless of the outcome.


One bloke went to win the ball and the other went tear arsing in with no idea what he was doing.


Basically what the tribunal said.

The issue is, the next time it happens the reverse will happen.
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Re: AFL Round 1 2025

Postby Booney » Tue Mar 18, 2025 7:56 pm

Lynch,1, and Scrimshaw, 3, both still banned.
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Re: AFL Round 1 2025

Postby helicopterking » Tue Mar 18, 2025 8:02 pm

By far the most frustrating part of AFL is the MRP.
I reckon they make ridiculous decisions so it’s fills Socials and over populated Media have something to discuss.
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Re: AFL Round 1 2025

Postby MW » Tue Mar 18, 2025 8:20 pm

It's the AFL very aware of the civil lawsuits coming their way from CTE and mitigating that risk for the future by suspending these actions.
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Re: AFL Round 1 2025

Postby wenchbarwer » Wed Mar 19, 2025 8:42 am

Booney wrote:Lynch,1, and Scrimshaw, 3, both still banned.


Scrimshaw far too lucky, I feel. Hawks taking the piss appealing, should have given him an extra week for the audacity
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