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Re: SANFL Junior codes

Postby Mr Beefy » Tue Sep 09, 2025 4:10 pm

MW wrote:Stretcher they should stop the clock? In my daughters GF this year (this is adult D1 ressies though but time does not stop), she had a head clash with her teammate in the 3rd quarter and both needed to come off the ground, and the ump stopped the clock while they were on the ground getting seen too. Never seen it before and not sure if it is an instruction just for a GF or not.

Its a standard rule in AdFL, umpires can direct the the timekeepers to start time on/off for delays where there is not normally time on
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Re: SANFL Junior codes

Postby Spargo » Tue Sep 09, 2025 4:16 pm

Mr Beefy wrote:
MW wrote:Stretcher they should stop the clock? In my daughters GF this year (this is adult D1 ressies though but time does not stop), she had a head clash with her teammate in the 3rd quarter and both needed to come off the ground, and the ump stopped the clock while they were on the ground getting seen too. Never seen it before and not sure if it is an instruction just for a GF or not.

Its a standard rule in AdFL, umpires can direct the the timekeepers to start time on/off for delays where there is not normally time on

I was timekeeper the first time & there was no time on (U14 girls)
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Re: SANFL Junior codes

Postby wenchbarwer » Tue Sep 09, 2025 4:37 pm

Spargo wrote:
Mr Beefy wrote:
MW wrote:Stretcher they should stop the clock? In my daughters GF this year (this is adult D1 ressies though but time does not stop), she had a head clash with her teammate in the 3rd quarter and both needed to come off the ground, and the ump stopped the clock while they were on the ground getting seen too. Never seen it before and not sure if it is an instruction just for a GF or not.

Its a standard rule in AdFL, umpires can direct the the timekeepers to start time on/off for delays where there is not normally time on

I was timekeeper the first time & there was no time on (U14 girls)


I would bet dollars to donuts that the kids umpiring would have no idea that they could instruct the clock to be stopped, either.
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Re: SANFL Junior codes

Postby MW » Tue Sep 09, 2025 5:07 pm

wenchbarwer wrote:
Spargo wrote:
Mr Beefy wrote:
MW wrote:Stretcher they should stop the clock? In my daughters GF this year (this is adult D1 ressies though but time does not stop), she had a head clash with her teammate in the 3rd quarter and both needed to come off the ground, and the ump stopped the clock while they were on the ground getting seen too. Never seen it before and not sure if it is an instruction just for a GF or not.

Its a standard rule in AdFL, umpires can direct the the timekeepers to start time on/off for delays where there is not normally time on

I was timekeeper the first time & there was no time on (U14 girls)


I would bet dollars to donuts that the kids umpiring would have no idea that they could instruct the clock to be stopped, either.


I use this regularly in life and so many people don't get it. Bravo sir.
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Re: SANFL Junior codes

Postby wenchbarwer » Tue Sep 09, 2025 5:19 pm

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Re: SANFL Junior codes

Postby MoP » Tue Sep 09, 2025 5:24 pm

MW wrote:Stretcher they should stop the clock? In my daughters GF this year (this is adult D1 ressies though but time does not stop), she had a head clash with her teammate in the 3rd quarter and both needed to come off the ground, and the ump stopped the clock while they were on the ground getting seen too. Never seen it before and not sure if it is an instruction just for a GF or not.


Same thing happened in the Div 4W GF - umps stopped the clock in the 3rd quarter for a stretcher. Clock never stopped previously, so I was surprised when it happened.
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Re: SANFL Junior codes

Postby locky801 » Tue Sep 09, 2025 6:19 pm

MoP wrote:
MW wrote:Stretcher they should stop the clock? In my daughters GF this year (this is adult D1 ressies though but time does not stop), she had a head clash with her teammate in the 3rd quarter and both needed to come off the ground, and the ump stopped the clock while they were on the ground getting seen too. Never seen it before and not sure if it is an instruction just for a GF or not.


Same thing happened in the Div 4W GF - umps stopped the clock in the 3rd quarter for a stretcher. Clock never stopped previously, so I was surprised when it happened.


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Re: SANFL Junior codes

Postby Down the Hill » Tue Sep 09, 2025 8:47 pm

AdFL Regs:

36.12 Time-on may be initiated in matches where time-on is not played at the direction of both the officiating field umpires.

In our 9 seasons back in the AdFL I’ve only seen this applied 2 or 3 times and from memory it’s been for a stretcher in a fairly close game. But if I’m an umpire you need to be pretty sure of the time wasting motive by applying it for any other reason.
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Re: SANFL Junior codes

Postby MoP » Wed Sep 10, 2025 11:08 am

Down the Hill wrote:AdFL Regs:

36.12 Time-on may be initiated in matches where time-on is not played at the direction of both the officiating field umpires.

In our 9 seasons back in the AdFL I’ve only seen this applied 2 or 3 times and from memory it’s been for a stretcher in a fairly close game. But if I’m an umpire you need to be pretty sure of the time wasting motive by applying it for any other reason.


In the case of the Div 4W, it wasn't a time-wasting situation. The girl that went down was on the team that was losing at the time.
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Re: SANFL Junior codes

Postby Down the Hill » Wed Sep 10, 2025 11:29 am

I was more referring to where the umpire might deem intentional time wasting such as what was being implied with that U17.5 GF. But those kicks that went out on the full are still giving the ball back to the opposition and even an experienced mature umpire would be brave to inform the timekeepers to stop the clock.
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Re: SANFL Junior codes

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Sep 10, 2025 12:21 pm

Down the Hill wrote:I was more referring to where the umpire might deem intentional time wasting such as what was being implied with that U17.5 GF. But those kicks that went out on the full are still giving the ball back to the opposition and even an experienced mature umpire would be brave to inform the timekeepers to stop the clock.


Only one was out on the full, the other two were booted after the ball had crossed the boundary line.
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Re: SANFL Junior codes

Postby Down the Hill » Wed Sep 10, 2025 1:27 pm

Well that's a free kick and probable yellow card and 25/50 metre penalty at any level of community footy. Surely the Para Hills lads knew that risk and if they got away with it then that's just as much on the umpires than it is on Para Hills.
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Re: SANFL Junior codes

Postby MoP » Wed Sep 10, 2025 1:30 pm

Down the Hill wrote:Well that's a free kick and probable yellow card and 25/50 metre penalty at any level of community footy. Surely the Para Hills lads knew that risk and if they got away with it then that's just as much on the umpires than it is on Para Hills.


Agree totally. You can question the PH's coach's tactics, but if the umpires pulled up the first one, it likely wouldn't have happened a second time.
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Re: SANFL Junior codes

Postby wenchbarwer » Wed Sep 10, 2025 1:36 pm

And therein lies the problem, having young kids in charge of teams of a similar age, rarely works.

I know first hand how little feedback these junior umps get from the mob that run it, part of the reason why two of my kids were one and done umpires.
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Re: SANFL Junior codes

Postby MoP » Wed Sep 10, 2025 2:11 pm

I see Plympton lost the U18 Girls Div 1 Grand Final. They were a bit unlucky, given they had the first week off for finishing top, Glenunga forfeited in week 2, they got another week off in week 3 and the GF was their first game in a month.
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Re: SANFL Junior codes

Postby Arch44 » Fri Jan 30, 2026 1:17 pm

Interested to see peoples view on junior clubs knocking back local kids to play whilst they are full with a few kids from outside of the area on the list.
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Re: SANFL Junior codes

Postby The Bedge » Fri Jan 30, 2026 1:51 pm

Arch44 wrote:Interested to see peoples view on junior clubs knocking back local kids to play whilst they are full with a few kids from outside of the area on the list.

What would you have? The club tell those who have already signed up to move on?

It's a tough one but first in best dressed IMO.. although I wouldn't be turning any kid away - full or not.
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Re: SANFL Junior codes

Postby Arch44 » Fri Jan 30, 2026 2:42 pm

The Bedge wrote:
Arch44 wrote:Interested to see peoples view on junior clubs knocking back local kids to play whilst they are full with a few kids from outside of the area on the list.

What would you have? The club tell those who have already signed up to move on?

It's a tough one but first in best dressed IMO.. although I wouldn't be turning any kid away - full or not.


I would be giving local kids the priority, especially if there was new facilities from local council and government funded for the community.
Kids outside the area should be at one of their local clubs.
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Re: SANFL Junior codes

Postby wenchbarwer » Fri Jan 30, 2026 2:49 pm

Arch44 wrote:
The Bedge wrote:
Arch44 wrote:Interested to see peoples view on junior clubs knocking back local kids to play whilst they are full with a few kids from outside of the area on the list.

What would you have? The club tell those who have already signed up to move on?

It's a tough one but first in best dressed IMO.. although I wouldn't be turning any kid away - full or not.


I would be giving local kids the priority, especially if there was new facilities from local council and government funded for the community.
Kids outside the area should be at one of their local clubs.


What's "the area" though? SANFL juniors clubs aren't zoned.
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Re: SANFL Junior codes

Postby Arch44 » Fri Jan 30, 2026 2:54 pm

wenchbarwer wrote:
Arch44 wrote:
The Bedge wrote:
Arch44 wrote:Interested to see peoples view on junior clubs knocking back local kids to play whilst they are full with a few kids from outside of the area on the list.

What would you have? The club tell those who have already signed up to move on?

It's a tough one but first in best dressed IMO.. although I wouldn't be turning any kid away - full or not.


I would be giving local kids the priority, especially if there was new facilities from local council and government funded for the community.
Kids outside the area should be at one of their local clubs.


What's "the area" though? SANFL juniors clubs aren't zoned.


Lefevre Peninsula.

I understand there is no zoning which could be tricky in some areas with how close clubs are to each other.
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