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Re: Welsh quits the Crows

Postby rogernumber10 » Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:47 am

Dutchy wrote:just what we need another Cat fan on here :wink:



If you're going to win one, you may as well do it the perfect way by beating Collingwood by less than a goal (so they spend all summer thinking it could have been them) and then beat Port by about 7000 points (so that losing record stands for about 603 years).

Pity it took us 44 years to get the script right.
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Re: Welsh quits the Crows

Postby Rik E Boy » Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:57 am

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LOL ... That would still be quicker than 44 years though right?


Sounds like somebody's livin in the past. Contemporise man! Your current premiership drought constitutes over 50% of your Franchaise's 'history'....and you've still got the Profess0r in charge. :wink: Good luck with that.

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Re: Welsh quits the Crows

Postby Rik E Boy » Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:59 am

Dutchy wrote:just what we need another Cat fan on here :wink:



Well said. :lol:

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Re: Welsh quits the Crows

Postby JK » Wed Nov 14, 2007 12:11 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:
Constance_Perm wrote:
LOL ... That would still be quicker than 44 years though right?


Sounds like somebody's livin in the past. Contemporise man! Your current premiership drought constitutes over 50% of your Franchaise's 'history'....and you've still got the Profess0r in charge. :wink: Good luck with that.

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LMAO ... I knew the comeback would be good!! #-o ... Bloody frontrunners!!! :wink:
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Re: Welsh quits the Crows

Postby Felch » Wed Nov 14, 2007 12:23 pm

I think saying Welsh is a frontrunner is a little harsh. Of course he only stood up when the team was playing well, he is an opportunistic forward FFS !!! He is not and never will be a key, go-to forward.
I think his defensive abilities are slightly underated aswell, as far as forward line chasing and pressure. Not the best in the business, but definately not the worse.
Anyone who thinks Welsh walked out is kidding themselves. He walked out because the AFC wanted him to. He was pushed. This has been on the cards for a while. The Bulldogs never had to work on a trade for him, because they knew they could snare him in the pre-season draft. Why do you think there was a change of heart with McGregor ? AFC knew he was going to leave, or at least there was a good chance of it. They could not afford to lose Kenny too, besides he is far more flexible.
As i said previously, i like Welsh as a player and have enjoyed watching him. But he is replaceable, as is Hudson.
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Re: Welsh quits the Crows

Postby Rushby Hinds » Wed Nov 14, 2007 12:44 pm

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Stephen Rielly and Len Johnson | November 14, 2007

WESTERN BULLDOGS coach Rodney Eade may have been thwarted in his search for a marking forward during last month's trade window, but Scott Welsh seemingly is destined for Whitten Oval via the pre-season draft.

Welsh walked out on Adelaide yesterday for what is believed to be a two-year offer from the Bulldogs, who have been negotiating with the 28-year-old for several weeks.

While he must get past Richmond, Carlton and Melbourne to join the Dogs, who have the fourth pick in next month's draft, the Tigers indicated yesterday that they would not stand in the way. Carlton and Melbourne are believed to have interest in others, all but assuring Welsh of a passage to his third club, having started with the Kangaroos, where he played in their 1999 premiership team.

Richmond football director Greg Miller said it was "doubtful" Welsh would be offered a home at Punt Road.

"We think he's a good player," Miller said yesterday, "but it's one area where we are well placed. Brett Deledio played that small forward role well late last year and Nathan Brown is back, as well."

While the Dogs identified the ruck as their most pressing area of need in a post-season review, which led to another Crow, Ben Hudson, crossing to Whitten Oval during trade week, finding a foil for the prolific Brad Johnson also was a priority.

To that end, Eade chased Melbourne's Russell Robertson without success and the club also was linked with Port Adelaide's Damon White.

Welsh, while not a conventional tall marking forward at 188 centimetres, has had a 12-year career on the strength of his aerial game and nose for a goal.

He started his AFL career with the Kangaroos in 1996 and, after playing 36 games for the Roos, he returned to South Australia to play for Adelaide in 2000.

He quit his second club yesterday after playing 129 games and kicking 270 goals over eight seasons.

Welsh kicked 49 goals in 21 games this year to become the Crows' leading goalkicker for the fourth time and he kicked 58 goals in 23 games in 2005.

"The club is disappointed the negotiations couldn't be resolved," Adelaide football operations manager John Reid said.

"The basic fundamental difference was Scott being offered a one-year contract by the club and him requiring a one-year contract with trigger points to a second year related to performance and behaviour. Unfortunately, the behaviour issues this year were significant to the point that the club believed Scott needed to have a season where there were no behavioural issues at all before it would negotiate another season."

The Crows ordered Welsh to have behaviour counselling after he was involved in an incident outside a city nightclub in September this year.
He's still my hero even if he is a little bit crap.
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Re: Welsh quits the Crows

Postby NFC » Wed Nov 14, 2007 12:47 pm

sydney-dog wrote:Dutchy

Huddo would be the only player I would of had in my best 22 next year

Roo, his body could not carry him anymore
Perrie, the same
Bode, the same
Torney, the club needed to create some development scope for players like Gallman and Symes
Welsh, he would of been insurance policy only, the club is determined to play Tippett up fotrward next season

The real positive, all spots are open, if I was a young player on the crows list I would be busting my guts over pre-season to get the first look in

Agree, Griffen, Tippett, MacKay, Maric, Moran, Gallman, Moran, Symes and Douglas may not of been in the best 22 in 2007, however, with their development, their is no reason why they can't be in the club's best 22 for 2008 and years to come

Mate, the Kanga's and Collingwood made these decisions last year, opportunities can certainly fast track players

Gallman? Torney >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>. (x100) Gallman.

Just because Gallman was upgraded means nothing. Hinge was upgraded after 1 year and look at him now. Gallman has good speed and aggression but to me he showed little this year. He played about 7-8 league games and had little impact. I wouldn't be expecting much from him.
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Re: Welsh quits the Crows

Postby JK » Wed Nov 14, 2007 12:50 pm

Felch wrote:I think saying Welsh is a frontrunner is a little harsh.


Was actually referring to REB as the frontrunner mate
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Re: Welsh quits the Crows

Postby Felch » Wed Nov 14, 2007 12:52 pm

Constance_Perm wrote:
Felch wrote:I think saying Welsh is a frontrunner is a little harsh.


Was actually referring to REB as the frontrunner mate


Yeah mate, i know
I was referring to earlier posts, i should have quoted :oops:
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Re: Welsh quits the Crows

Postby NFC » Wed Nov 14, 2007 12:52 pm

Shirtfront wrote:John Reid saying it gives Jericho a chance to shine up forward, has that bloke got any idea???? Jericho is a joke.

Jericho is the worst player on an AFL list. In fact, he’s probably the worst player on an SANFL list.
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Re: Welsh quits the Crows

Postby Felch » Wed Nov 14, 2007 12:54 pm

NFC wrote:
Shirtfront wrote:John Reid saying it gives Jericho a chance to shine up forward, has that bloke got any idea???? Jericho is a joke.

Jericho is the worst player on an AFL list. In fact, he’s probably the worst player on an SANFL list.


I have to admit, im baffled as to what Craig and Co see in Jericho too :?
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Re: Welsh quits the Crows

Postby Blue Boy » Wed Nov 14, 2007 12:57 pm

NFC wrote:
sydney-dog wrote:Dutchy

Huddo would be the only player I would of had in my best 22 next year

Roo, his body could not carry him anymore
Perrie, the same
Bode, the same
Torney, the club needed to create some development scope for players like Gallman and Symes
Welsh, he would of been insurance policy only, the club is determined to play Tippett up fotrward next season

The real positive, all spots are open, if I was a young player on the crows list I would be busting my guts over pre-season to get the first look in

Agree, Griffen, Tippett, MacKay, Maric, Moran, Gallman, Moran, Symes and Douglas may not of been in the best 22 in 2007, however, with their development, their is no reason why they can't be in the club's best 22 for 2008 and years to come

Mate, the Kanga's and Collingwood made these decisions last year, opportunities can certainly fast track players

Gallman? Torney >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>. (x100) Gallman.

Just because Gallman was upgraded means nothing. Hinge was upgraded after 1 year and look at him now. Gallman has good speed and aggression but to me he showed little this year. He played about 7-8 league games and had little impact. I wouldn't be expecting much from him.


All the talk early last year was about Mcintyre but he was passed by Gallman ( The great Fudd said that he had been passed on the day of the SANFL GF when it was revealed that Mcintyre had missed out ) - B.Hart seems to have taken to this young fella as well.

So this could only be a good thing !!!

But I also dont expect to see much of him in 2008 !!!
It is what it is !!!
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Re: Welsh quits the Crows

Postby Blue Boy » Wed Nov 14, 2007 12:57 pm

Felch wrote:
NFC wrote:
Shirtfront wrote:John Reid saying it gives Jericho a chance to shine up forward, has that bloke got any idea???? Jericho is a joke.

Jericho is the worst player on an AFL list. In fact, he’s probably the worst player on an SANFL list.


I have to admit, im baffled as to what Craig and Co see in Jericho too :?


Photos :shock: :shock: :shock:
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Re: Welsh quits the Crows

Postby Rik E Boy » Wed Nov 14, 2007 1:01 pm

Constance_Perm wrote:
Felch wrote:I think saying Welsh is a frontrunner is a little harsh.


Was actually referring to REB as the frontrunner mate



Which is even more harsh. :lol:

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Re: Welsh quits the Crows

Postby Rik E Boy » Wed Nov 14, 2007 1:02 pm

NFC wrote:
Shirtfront wrote:John Reid saying it gives Jericho a chance to shine up forward, has that bloke got any idea???? Jericho is a joke.

Jericho is the worst player on an AFL list. In fact, he’s probably the worst player on an SANFL list.



I have two words for you....

Charlie

Gardiner

King of all duds.

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Re: Welsh quits the Crows

Postby Blue Boy » Wed Nov 14, 2007 1:05 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:
NFC wrote:
Shirtfront wrote:John Reid saying it gives Jericho a chance to shine up forward, has that bloke got any idea???? Jericho is a joke.

Jericho is the worst player on an AFL list. In fact, he’s probably the worst player on an SANFL list.



I have two words for you....

Charlie

Gardiner

King of all duds.

regards,

REB


I have one to trump that !!!

David Gallagher :wink:
It is what it is !!!
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Re: Welsh quits the Crows

Postby NFC » Wed Nov 14, 2007 1:06 pm

Blue Boy wrote:
Rik E Boy wrote:
NFC wrote:
Shirtfront wrote:John Reid saying it gives Jericho a chance to shine up forward, has that bloke got any idea???? Jericho is a joke.

Jericho is the worst player on an AFL list. In fact, he’s probably the worst player on an SANFL list.



I have two words for you....

Charlie

Gardiner

King of all duds.

regards,

REB


I have one to trump that !!!

David Gallagher :wink:

Gardiner > Gallagher > Jericho.
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Re: Welsh quits the Crows

Postby Dutchy » Wed Nov 14, 2007 1:06 pm

Ill raise you L Brown and E Sansbury!
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Re: Welsh quits the Crows

Postby NFC » Wed Nov 14, 2007 1:07 pm

Blue Boy wrote:All the talk early last year was about Mcintyre but he was passed by Gallman ( The great Fudd said that he had been passed on the day of the SANFL GF when it was revealed that Mcintyre had missed out ) - B.Hart seems to have taken to this young fella as well.

So this could only be a good thing !!!

But I also dont expect to see much of him in 2008 !!!

Boy didn't McIntyre go downhill fast? I must admit I was extremely excited when I heard we had taken him in the rookie draft and he came close to making his AFL debut in round 6 or 7. Then came the injury. He was never the same and for weeks I went on about how he should be cut from the list. He was flat out awful for the past 3 months and particulary in the finals.
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Re: Welsh quits the Crows

Postby Dutchy » Wed Nov 14, 2007 1:08 pm

any chance Hinge or Pfieffer gets redrafted to the Crows? one of them must have been borderline but they didnt have the space on the list...now they do...
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