Adelaide Plains Football League

[jumbo]

Tallboy was at TW vs Virg - didn't umpire a game though. The 2 "A" Grade umpires were poles apart - redheaded guy seemed to understand football and did a good job although caught a bit of the other guys disease later in the game. The other bloke was shocking and I mean shocking - if tg was at the game he could probably support that. This bloke umpired a few years back - I am sure we would all remember him.

[The Rooster]

2. Burley balls - haven't heard much feedback except who's favourite ball etc - any players out there want to comment?

Ill let you know when i get near it

Ditto! your talking about that red thing right!!

[jumbo]

umpiring last weekend whats the point of even discussing it? where did d tallboy ump this weekend??

First time for everything............ Saturday the umpire paid a 50m penalty against Mallala because of a comment from under the verandah, which disagreed with a free kick. Whats next... Im glad he's not umpiring at AAMI at a Port game

I actually saw that happen at a game last year - quite possibly the most insipid and crowd inciting "rule" the APFL has ever introduced. Just goes to show the arrogance of some umpires IMHO - pretty easy to combat - go and stand at the opposition bench and shout abuse - maybe the clubs will overturn the stupid rule.

[jumbo]

is there a case for a banning boys?

Here's a thought why don't we discuss football - stop throwing bombs. There are plenty of issues around APFL - here's a few

1. Junior mercy rule - yep its still there
2. Burley balls - haven't heard much feedback except who's favourite ball etc - any players out there want to comment?
3. Umpiring standards - must be a comment from someone - what was the standard like last weekend
4. Import rule - every club gets an extra this year - whats the point??
5. How many imports are playing at each club?
6. Virginia may not have a huge following (numbers) but I don't reckon its any worse than Balaks.

In response to your points Jumbo;

1. Not good for junior development, I played in junior teams at either end of the spectrum and learnt more from getting pummelled than from cruising.

2. Am retired but always hated the cheap burleys at training

3. Been working every weekend so far so don't know

4. No point, just takes more money away from the clubs that could be used on the juniors

5. Balaklava has 3 I believe: Ben Catford, Jake Levi & Brady Scott

6. Probably right, I know as the years go past I am travelling less to away games except to those where I know people from the opposition and where my kids know other kids.

1. wholeheartedly agree
4. and again
5. Virg played 7 on Sat, TW played 4

[The Rooster]

umpiring last weekend whats the point of even discussing it? where did d tallboy ump this weekend??

First time for everything............ Saturday the umpire paid a 50m penalty against Mallala because of a comment from under the verandah, which disagreed with a free kick. Whats next... Im glad he's not umpiring at AAMI at a Port game

Not quite the first, Swamps, Two Wells Vs United at the Tower in 2005, a comment was thrown out by a United supporter who happened to be nearby the Two wells interchange bench, immediatley a free kick was awarded to the closest Tiger nearby who slotted it through from straight out in front. We were gobsmacked. no malice was shown towards the bloke who made the comment and it had no real impact on the end result but the decision was a poor one and it's fair to say that we've told anyone who wishes to perhaps question the sexual orientation or the eating habits of the umpires to move towards the opposition bench or elsewhere.

Interestingly enough this happens in local Rugby also, a mate who enjoys the bumgrabbers spoke of watching his beloved Old Collegians one wet miserable day, he showed up at the game at the end of the first half to find the referee's refusing to get the game under way.

Many comments were being suggested to the ref's but to no avail. The President of Old Colls walked up to my mate and said that they would not continue the game unless he was removed from the oval due to the nature of his abuse.

He protested and said that he had just arrived and had barely had time to purchase a refreshment and was wondering what was happening, The pres told him that he best get moving so they could get the game under way, and he replied by suggesting that the ref go and copulate himself.

The pres then reluctantly walked to the centre of the pitch to inform the umpires that he wouldn't leave and that they are just going to have to get on with it, when they said that my mate was still clearly visible, problem was my mate was on the opposite side of the ground as he had just arrived, the person they thought was him was someone completly different on the other side of the pitch with a beer in hand still yelling abuse.

Moral of the story, you are not going to make everyone happy as a referee/umpire but if you cop a spray make certain you know who gave you a spray before you penalise the group of "polite" young men around you.

[Swamp Donkey]

3. Umpiring standards - must be a comment from someone - what was the standard like last weekend


Terrible, For all those blokes who have been asking where Doug Tallboy has been, he was at Two Wells last week to witness the most incosistent game that i have witnessed in a few years.

Doug has his hands full being the (see if i can get this right?) Central District junior umpiring chief as well as being in charge of the guys we get week in week out. I briefly had the chance to chat with Doug before the A-Grade gamefrom what i could gather i'm not sure we'll see him in the white's with a whistle in the A-Grade anytime soon.

I saw him directly after the game having a brief discussion with the two men who were clearly not in charge. I don't like to bag umpires as a rule but they were terrible and the inconsistency was not one-sided as both sides had no idea at times what decision had been made, it was disappointing and ruined the spectacle that in the end would have been better off with out umpires.

So at least i take some solace in the fact that Both Doug Tallboy and Andy Seccafien were in attendance to wittness a horrid display, and hopefully have reinforced what is expected of umpires in the APFL so that the level of umpiring holds this league down no longer.

Umpires Prouse and Jenner, probably the best we have at present?

Im not sure of the name of the young 16 yo umpire going around at the moment, but he is very good. I certainly give him credit for making the move into umpiring given the reception they are often given, but this young fella did the B's on Sat and 10mins of the A's (Prousey must have had a flatty and was a bit late) and did a bloody good job. When Prousey did arrive he was pretty good too, but his sidekick lost the plot big time. Apparently he umpired in amateurs last year, pretty clear why he is no longer there! Is Andy still blowing the whistle this year?

[Mythical Creature]

1. Mercy Rule - As stated earlier agree with it (or some sort of rule) for the J/C. Totally disagree for the S/C

2. Burley Balls - Personally, whilst they do float a bit more than the sherrins it is the same for both sides so its not disadvantaging anyone. Plus the yellow ones seem to last longer for training balls than sherrins so we're saving $$$$$

3. Umpires - Aren't gonna change and havn't for the past 20 years. We will always be complaining and therefore provide a topic of conversation.

4. Imports - Don't get me started. It infuriates me how the league has stuffed this up so much this year. More than any other year I have heard complaints. The difference between this year and last year is that they have scrapped the population component and given every club 3 imps + an allowance for ladder position. Some of the smaller towns applied for extra 1, then every club did so the league then decided to give each team an extra import.

5. How Many Imports - This is why this rule is stupid. Using Mallala & United as an example. Last year Mallala allowed 4 and United had 6. Both teams make GF should lose one each due to higher ladder position (2008 they should have 3 & 5). New rule of 3 for every club + ladder position gives them both 4 for this season. Both apply for extra imp (I understand United reason is to put them where they should be) both get granted and now allowed 5 each.

Is this a precedent where if you win a flag you get an extra import whilst every other club loses one???????

6. Crowds - At least Balak have Junior grades and full quota of netty, so whilst they may not all hang around long you still get their gate money.

[Mythical Creature]

Young ump is Angus Bugeja. You're right Donk is very good. After doing this for a couple of years and doing a lot of B's last year he has certainly earnt respect. Unfortunately for us he is clearly good enough to ump at the highest level and the League should do everything it can to channel him in this direction.

[twogood4u]

umpires should take an IQ test befor being employed by the apfl.

Bloggers should take (and pass) an IQ test before being allowed to post on this site.

how long did it take you to think that one up?

[jumbo]

Young ump is Angus Bugeja. You're right Donk is very good. After doing this for a couple of years and doing a lot of B's last year he has certainly earnt respect. Unfortunately for us he is clearly good enough to ump at the highest level and the League should do everything it can to channel him in this direction.

I think the redhead from sats TW v Virg game is a Dublin local - not 100% sure - he may have even played at Longies. I think he is pretty good too - he is young and has a good understanding of not only the rules but the game of football. Too many umpires swallow the rule book but don't quite get the gist of how it all hangs together.

If the APFL could encourage more young locals to get involved that could only be a good thing.

[twogood4u]

mc i was playing 20 years ago and the umps were a lot better back then, they did not listen to what was being said on the other side of the fence.

[Mythical Creature]

Jumbo that ump would be Will Hodgetts. He did play 2 years at United and a year at hummocks before that. He is still learning the craft I guess. Not sure if I'd have him in my top 8 though.

[Mythical Creature]

Two good. I agree that the umps shouldn't listen to the crowd and pay frees. Like Rooster said, its too easy to walk near the other box. What do they do at Two Wells, Hamley and Wakey where most of the crowd stand in the same spot and is not as divided as such.

[twogood4u]

a player was sent from the field on sat for something someone else said. virginia v TW Bs. the player informed the ump he had said nothing, but to no avail. this was confirmed by other player during break. the bad thing was when he returned every time this poor bloke went near the ball he was penilised. no wonder players become frustrated!

[mighty hounds]

Jumbo that ump would be Will Hodgetts. He did play 2 years at United and a year at hummocks before that. He is still learning the craft I guess. Not sure if I'd have him in my top 8 though.

i rememebr that guy, bloody paid a throw against me one agme wen i clearly handballed it, he was behind the pack as well, cost us a goal

[twogood4u]

all APFL clubs use burley due to the $8,000 sponsorship. well done! we get to use an inferior ball while burley sales go up and the APFL pocket 8,000 dollars. I wonder if this money will go to improve the standard of umpiring?

[twogood4u]

Burley has been importing footballs for thirty years. quote from burley web site!

[Swamp Donkey]

There is nothing at all wrong with new burleys for matches, while sherrins are the perfect ball, Im also a fan of match burleys. Burleys have been used in the SANFL for at least 5 years now and i believe they still are . They are good balls, but just take a bit more skill to kick a new one accurately due to a its "pointed" end. Like MC said its the same for both sides and its a hell of a lot cheaper, so im all for it. Anything to save money that does not need to be spent.

[Swamp Donkey]

all APFL clubs use burley due to the $8,000 sponsorship. well done! we get to use an inferior ball while burley sales go up and the APFL pocket 8,000 dollars. I wonder if this money will go to improve the standard of umpiring?

What is the problem with them exactly:?

[jumbo]

all APFL clubs use burley due to the $8,000 sponsorship. well done! we get to use an inferior ball while burley sales go up and the APFL pocket 8,000 dollars. I wonder if this money will go to improve the standard of umpiring?

Doesn't look like it so far . The Burley sponsorship resulted in affilliation fees for each club dropping to around the $100 mark from whatever they were last year - around the $1k I think