Mobile Phone Risks

[Psyber]

This makes interesting reading: http://www.brain-surgery.us/mobph.pdf
I will warn you though it is a proper medical study of 67 pages including references.
It also points out I don't only spent my time warning people about the health risks of alcohol abuse!

[bayman]

the biggest risk is when you get the phone bill as with me it almost gives me a heart attack when i read it

[Footy Chick]

Didnt bother with reading all of it but just looked like every other study Ive seen in the last 10 years.

Load of hogswash basically.

AM radio emits more radiation than a mobile phone There wouldn't be many people that DONT sleep with a radio next to them.. blame 5AA

[Psyber]

It is basically a review of a large group of previous studies, so it would read much as they do.
Here is the core summary from pages 60-63 to save the hard work of wading through it all.

8. CONCLUSIONS:
The Conclusions section represents a concise statement of the main findings of the study
and its message.
Emerging concepts and concerns:
o Electromagnetic radiation such as that emitted by mobile and cordless phones
can heat the side of the head or pulse it non-thermally and potentially
thermoelectrically interact with its organic electrical content, the brain.
o Bluetooth devices and unshielded headsets can convert the user's head into an
effective, potentially self-harming antenna.
o Malignant brain tumours may take several years to develop, and the incidence
of malignant brain tumours is increasing.
o There is a growing and statistically significant body of evidence reporting that
brain tumours such as vestibular Schwannoma (acoustic neuroma) and
astrocytoma are associated with "heavy" and "prolonged" mobile phone use,
particularly on the same side as the "preferred ear" for telephony.
o Certain "heavy" mobile-phone users may be more susceptible to developing
malignant brain tumours compared with others reporting similar patterns of
mobile phone usage, and this may be genetically predetermined if the pattern
and source of exposure are the same.
o In order to adequately observe and potentially confirm this association, a solid
scientific study must observe "heavy" mobile phone users for a period of at least
10-15 years and in this subgroup of "heavy" users examine the relationship
between the side of any newly diagnosed acoustic neuroma or astrocytoma and
the "preferred side" for mobile phone usage.
o While mobile and cellular phones are convenient and useful, and in some
situations life-saving, the Telecommunications Industry and its regulators are
implored to make these technologies and their accessories decidedly safer and
then available to consumers.
o We are currently experiencing a relatively unchecked and dangerous situation
related to both "consumption at all costs" and "production at all costs".
o Worldwide availability and use of appropriately shielded cell phones and handsfree
devices including headsets, increased use of landlines and pagers instead of
current mobile and cell phones, and restricted use of cellular and cordless
phones among children and adults alike are likely to limit the effects of this
physically "invisible" danger.
o The author fears that unless the Industry and Governments take immediate and
decisive steps to openly acknowledge and intervene in this situation, even while
waiting definitive confirmation by large and well-constructed multi-centre studies
worldwide, malignant brain tumour incidence and its associated death rate will
be observed globally to rise within a decade from now, by which time it may be
far too late to meaningfully intervene, especially for those who are currently
children and young adults.

9. PRECAUTIONARY RECOMMENDATIONS:
The Precautionary Recommendations lays out in point form the evidence-based personal
health and safety guidelines recommended by the author regarding mobile phones.
For members of the General Public:
o Avoid directly exposing the "hearing system" and brain to electromagnetic
radiation by using a regular "landline" in preference to a hand-held mobile or
cordless phone;
o When requiring to use a mobile phone, increase the physical distance between
the device and the side of the head by using its "speaker phone" mode (with at
least 20 cm separation) or "in-vehicle hands-free" mode;
o Avoid converting the head into a mobile antenna by minimising the use of
current Bluetooth devices and unshielded wired-earphones for mobile phones;
o Minimise the time spent using mobile and cellular phones for all adults;
o Restrict the use of mobile and cellular phones by children to emergency
situations.
For members of the Telecommunications Industry:
o Expedite the research, development and promotion of safe and economical
shielding devices for mobile and cellular phones and their Bluetooth and headset
accessories - some of these are already available but currently poorly marketed;
o Further refine the quality of hands-free "speaker phone" mode.
For members of the Health and Scientific Communities:
o Objectively reanalyse all previous large-scale population studies that reported
"no link between mobile phones and brain tumours", particularly from the
perspectives of whether those "apparently negative or inconclusive studies"
examined: (i) the length of usage of mobile phones greater than 10 years; (ii)
following a cohort of "heavy" mobile phone users for more than 10 years; (iii) the
occurrence of acoustic neuroma (vestibular Schwannoma) and/or astrocytoma in
the study population (the two types of potentially malignant brain tumours
reportedly associated with prolonged ipsilateral mobile phone usage); and (iv) the
concept of "lateralisation" - that is, the relationship between the side of the brain
tumour and the "preferred side" for mobile phone usage particularly in "heavy"
users who developed brain tumours;
o Carry our further large-scale studies taking all of the aforementioned
perspectives into account. Such studies are recommended and encouraged by the
author in order to definitively validate or refute the findings of this paper.

[Pseudo]

Anyone who answers their phone while sitting next to me on the train - after letting in ring for a full cycle of some inane ringtone like the Tellytubbies theme song, at maximum volume no less - and who then proceeds to yell their shallow trivialities into it so that the entire f***ing carriage then knows the intimate details of their sad excuse for a social life - is risking a smack in the face.

[Dirko]

after letting in ring for a full cycle of some FANTASTIC ringtone

My phone was laying around at a party last night, and I got a call..."Tiger for me" blaring out !!

I let it ring the full cycle , got a few looks especially the "gay" part

[The Big Shrek]

Anyone who answers their phone while sitting next to me on the train - after letting in ring for a full cycle of some inane ringtone like the Tellytubbies theme song, at maximum volume no less - and who then proceeds to yell their shallow trivialities into it so that the entire f***ing carriage then knows the intimate details of their sad excuse for a social life - is risking a smack in the face.

Watch out, now Psyber will post a "core summary" from a study about how getting a smack in the face has potentially adverse health consequences.

[Psyber]

Anyone who answers their phone while sitting next to me on the train - after letting in ring for a full cycle of some inane ringtone like the Tellytubbies theme song, at maximum volume no less - and who then proceeds to yell their shallow trivialities into it so that the entire f***ing carriage then knows the intimate details of their sad excuse for a social life - is risking a smack in the face.

Watch out, now Psyber will post a "core summary" from a study about how getting a smack in the face has potentially adverse health consequences.

I can think of some people my studies may establish it would be good for!

[mal]

There are 2 very proffesional opinions on using Mobile phones
A Cancer association in SA
A leading Naturopath who specialises in cancers and tumours
Both have told me to stop using Mobile Phones
I now stop using them.

There may always be some risk associated with Genetically modified NEW foods[or they may help]
There may always be some risk associated with Electric radiations

Basically anything encountered by a generation that thier ancestors were not exposed
to may result in abnorMAL health problems and or diseases.
This may be alleviated in later generations by the survival of the fittest doctrine
An example is Diabetes in Australian indigenous peoples when European settlers arrived
Another example is the diseases transmitted from people coming to new lands
Also examples are the radiations of atom bombs[Japan]
Chenobyl another example of a radiation type problem


The Mobile phone may end up being the modern asbestos phenomonen or similar ?

SUMMARY
There are plenty of people getting Brain related tumours that have never used Mobile Phones
But then again there have been more instances since Mobile Phones have been used more extensively
Unless a mobile phone is of an absolute necessity I prefer not to use them
I still carry mine purely for emergency situations, but never socially

Too many seemingly well credentialled heath practioners are against M/Phones for my liking

[Psyber]

SUMMARY
There are plenty of people getting Brain related tumours that have never used Mobile Phones
But then again there have been more instances since Mobile Phones have been used more extensively
Unless a mobile phone is of an absolute necessity I prefer not to use them
I still carry mine purely for emergency situations, but never socially...

That's exactly what I do too Mal. I don't use wireless Internet connections at home either - I am happy to drop a few cables under the floor instead - at least there is some insulation by the floor.

The people selling these things, mobile phones, GM food, new pharmaceuticals, always insist they are "harmless" or that the risks are "unproven". Time reveals the truth. The first article linking smoking tobacco with an increased rate of heart disease was published in "The Lancet" in about 1903, but counter-propanganda prevailed for many years.

There has been statistical proof of higher miscarriage rates in stock animals in paddocks under high tension wires, and farmers with expensive stud animals get up in arms about new power lines.

[Pseudo]

There are 2 very proffesional opinions on using Mobile phones
A Cancer association in SA
A leading Naturopath who specialises in cancers and tumours
Both have told me to stop using Mobile Phones
I now stop using them.

An ex-girlfriend of mine turned into a naturopath. Last time I caught up with her, she'd been practicing for some years.

About a year after that I heard on the grapevine that she'd copped breast cancer.

So much for all that meditation, choking the chakras and colonic irrigation....

As far as I know she turned to western medicine to fight the cancer. I guess that when it comes to the crunch, reiki just doesn't compare with chemotherapy.

[Psyber]

There are 2 very proffesional opinions on using Mobile phones
A Cancer association in SA
A leading Naturopath who specialises in cancers and tumours
Both have told me to stop using Mobile Phones
I now stop using them.

An ex-girlfriend of mine turned into a naturopath. Last time I caught up with her, she'd been practicing for some years.
About a year after that I heard on the grapevine that she'd copped breast cancer.
So much for all that meditation, choking the chakras and colonic irrigation....
As far as I know she turned to western medicine to fight the cancer. I guess that when it comes to the crunch, reiki just doesn't compare with chemotherapy.

Yes, Fairyland may be fun and earn a living, but real illness in yourself is a reality check.
I remember a comedian once describing someone as, "As nervous as a Christian Scientist with Appendicitis."
[You can substitute any other magical therapy for "Christian Scientist".]

Naturopathy - the more you dilute something the more potent it is.
Chiropractic - all disease is caused by misalignment of the vertebrae.
Osteopathy - all disease is related to disorder of the long bones.
Reiki - magical healing energy radiating from the hands.

[mal]

On A CURRENT AFFAIR channel 7 tonight[one of the very best programmes on TV]
An ex Mobile Phone salesman was on saying he got a brain tumour from using Mobile Phones for 10 years
Several Nuerosurgeons have stated they wont use Mobile Phones
The segment also stated there are more and more brain tumours in recent times

One nuerosurgeon said
Mobile Phones could be as bad as smoking and asbestos in the future

Once again too many qualified well credentialled health practioners sticking the boots into Mobile Phones.
Lets think about it
Neuros warning us about these phones, nothing to gain but patients to lose ....

[spell_check]

Anyone who answers their phone while sitting next to me on the train - after letting in ring for a full cycle of some inane ringtone like the Tellytubbies theme song, at maximum volume no less - and who then proceeds to yell their shallow trivialities into it so that the entire f***ing carriage then knows the intimate details of their sad excuse for a social life - is risking a smack in the face.

It's quite rude, I saw a couple of weeks back in the bank some guy talking so that most of the people in there could hear, saying something about Naomi, and that the line in here was longer than a BBQ (I assume that's very long, but the line was only a few long). After being called up to the counter, he continued to talk on the phone whilst getting his card out and handing it to the teller!

[Psyber]

After reading this article I thought this thread was worth a bump..
http://www.brain-surgery.net.au/SurgNeurol_RV.pdf

[hearts on fire]

Everything causes cancer or some sort of disease these days......

[Barto]

There are 2 very proffesional opinions on using Mobile phones
A Cancer association in SA
A leading Naturopath who specialises in cancers and tumours
Both have told me to stop using Mobile Phones
I now stop using them.

An ex-girlfriend of mine turned into a naturopath. Last time I caught up with her, she'd been practicing for some years.

About a year after that I heard on the grapevine that she'd copped breast cancer.

So much for all that meditation, choking the chakras and colonic irrigation....

As far as I know she turned to western medicine to fight the cancer. I guess that when it comes to the crunch, reiki just doesn't compare with chemotherapy.

She must have left out aroma therapy and a detox diet.

[Psyber]

Everything causes cancer or some sort of disease these days......

http://safooty.net/forum/viewtopic.php? ... 78#p678678

[Booney]

Mobile phone risks :

1 : Jumping into a mates pool after a Grand Final day drinking Vodka shots and forgetting it is in your pocket.

2 : Dropping it in a urinal while trying to talk on the phone while your hand(s) are full.

3 : Letting a mate call his ex-Mrs out late one night only to find he has taken off in a cab with said phone in pocket on route* to the Ex's place.

*NB: Not all of these experiences are my own *

[Q.]

I'll add to that Booney.

Having some stranger befriend you at the front bar of the O.G. and he decides to show you a video on his phone, a bit pissed as he holds it over your full pint of beer until it slips from his grasp and PLOOP...