Where are the Cats ???

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Postby Magpiespower » Mon May 22, 2006 1:36 pm

At the moment, reakon only the top four teams are genuine contenders.

C'wood weren't disgraced when beaten twice in the GF- hopefully we get another crack this year.


Don't wanna bring back bad memories PR, but 2003?

Entered the GF as favourites and copped an awful hiding.
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Postby MW » Mon May 22, 2006 1:45 pm

Geelong have the runners just lacking decent key position players. Scarlett, while being one of the best full backs in the league, cannot handle the big forwards. He would be like Nathan Bassett if Geelong can get a Rutten in their backline. Same deal up forward. Kent Kingsley is not a full forwards shoelace...
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Postby Blue Boy » Mon May 22, 2006 1:55 pm

They are only 1 game out of the 8.

Richmond - West Coast ( home ) - Essendon in the 3 next weeks.

Probably will still play finals. Top 4 maybe slippin away.
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Postby sydney-dog » Mon May 22, 2006 3:10 pm

MW

Geelong do have thr runners but they only like to run one way (towards goal), there work rate on the way back is well below what is expected of a top side
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Postby MW » Mon May 22, 2006 3:11 pm

good point
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Postby Rik E Boy » Mon May 22, 2006 3:48 pm

MW wrote:Geelong have the runners just lacking decent key position players. Scarlett, while being one of the best full backs in the league, cannot handle the big forwards. He would be like Nathan Bassett if Geelong can get a Rutten in their backline. Same deal up forward. Kent Kingsley is not a full forwards shoelace...


Er..have you actually watched Scarlo MW? His play against the Power forwards is his strength. He has a great record against Lloyd, Rocca, Hall, Gehring and Fev. That's the top forwards going around. He might have struggled on Saturday but that was because our midfield was absolutely smashed because as Syd pointed out..they weren't working hard enough.

In in Scarlo's AA year, he was beaten in the first round by Gehring (Scarlo evened up in the second encounter v St Kilda and has owned the G train since) and by Tarrant but he was rarely beaten apart from that. Not bad for a fullback that can't handle the big blokes.

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Postby MW » Mon May 22, 2006 4:06 pm

To be honest I try not to watch the Cats...just an assumption he would be better off taking the 2nd tall forward. Happy to be corrected if thats the case.
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Postby sydney-dog » Mon May 22, 2006 4:06 pm

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Totally agree, your putting your defence under enormous pressure when you team mates up the field refuse to work the other way, if you give any midfield in the comp space and time, they will hit forwards lace out, the other issue is the oppositions forwards have too much space to lead too because the midfield and wings are not working hard enough to block of space in the defensive 50........

Scarlett is a super footballer but he is not Superman
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Postby Rik E Boy » Tue May 23, 2006 12:55 pm

MW wrote:To be honest I try not to watch the Cats...just an assumption he would be better off taking the 2nd tall forward. Happy to be corrected if thats the case.


That's sound advice at the moment MW. How the hell are you supposed to win a game when you are flooding inside ten minutes. Poor old Bomber has lost the plot I'm afraid.

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Postby MW » Tue May 23, 2006 1:31 pm

Apparently flooding is the only way you can beat top sides though...just ask Richmond supporters
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Postby Booney » Tue May 23, 2006 1:34 pm

Was that flooding in your book MW? Looked more like keepies off than flooding.
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Postby MW » Tue May 23, 2006 1:51 pm

Same diff if you ask me...they flooded the crows forward line when they had the ball in their own forward line!
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Postby doggies4eva » Tue May 23, 2006 2:29 pm

I wonder when teams will start to line up like soccer - all players behind the ball at the ball up. They've got an excuse though - an off-side rule.
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Postby Punk Rooster » Tue May 23, 2006 7:47 pm

Magpiespower wrote:At the moment, reakon only the top four teams are genuine contenders.

C'wood weren't disgraced when beaten twice in the GF- hopefully we get another crack this year.


Don't wanna bring back bad memories PR, but 2003?

Entered the GF as favourites and copped an awful hiding.
False favourites- the Brisbane side was at it's peak, & Rocca's undisciplined, errant elbow really damaged our chances. Brisbane were the better side, we were just second best (& 2002, we weren't even that, but finished a very gallant second))
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Postby Maddogmike » Tue May 23, 2006 8:13 pm

Its a surprise that REB hasnt been offered the coaching job of at least 5 AFL clubs. He is so insightful and knows everything about the game. Im sure he has played at a high level and is qualified to make such informative comments.
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Postby Rik E Boy » Tue May 23, 2006 9:15 pm

Maddogmike wrote:Its a surprise that REB hasnt been offered the coaching job of at least 5 AFL clubs. He is so insightful and knows everything about the game. Im sure he has played at a high level and is qualified to make such informative comments.
Well done son.
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If you can't accept that people do not have the same opinions as yourself, perhaps online forums are not the place for you. So you actually have to have played at the highest level to have an opinion? Who TF do you think you are, Adolf Hitler?

In my opinion (which I am entitled to despite not playing league football or being a P.E. teacher, a parking inspector, hotel bouncer or a football umpire) Richmond's keepings off was the same tactic that Adelaide employed in Round 1, but the tigers employed this tactic for longer periods of the game. Your patronising tone and the hostility you have displayed to someone whose opinion differs from yours is quite revealing. Have a nice day :roll: **** off troll.

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Postby Maddogmike » Tue May 23, 2006 9:36 pm

You dont have to use swear words to try and get your point across. It just shows your lack of intelligence.
Saying Bomber Thompson has lost the plot displays you lack of insight into the game. Unfortunately players dont always carry out the team plan the way it is intended and sometimes can look like a flood. Perhaps rather than being a fickle supporter of your club stop whinging on internet forums where your opinions dont mean scrap, and do something intelligent with your life.
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Postby Rik E Boy » Tue May 23, 2006 10:14 pm

Fair enough, I apologise for the swearing unreservedly.

Fickle fan?? Pfft. How would you know what I go through every week Mike? Has it ever occured to you that the reason I 'whinge' on internet forums is that I am actually pretty passionate about my football team? The easy way out would be to not care about the predicament of my side and NOT post on the forums which I enjoy, not watch the games on TV and cancel my planned trip to the Gabba for when the Cats venture North. Normally I would agree a hundred percent about not 'going for the coach' but we've had this chap in charge for seven years and during this time the club has followed a rebuilding program. After seven years what do we get? A one dimensional gameplan that is worked out by many coaches, a coaching group that would have to have a flash of inspiration in order to be considered reactive and a performance that would have embarrassed our underperforming 1999 team.

Yes, I accept that sometimes players do not follow a game plan..it is my honest opinion that Bomber is NOT coaching well, can you honestly point out the positives of Mark's coaching this season, seeing as I have no real insight in the game? Have a look at the stony face in the coaches box. What moves did he make to attempt to alter the situation as it occured against Collingwood? Did you really need to be a coaching genius to figure out what we were doing out there was not going to win the game? Perhaps with your superlative intellect and your Nostradamus like level of perception you could inform a dullard like myself as to why Gary Ablett was not moved into the centre of the ground (as he is excellent at getting his hands on the ball) when he was getting frostbite in the forwardline and our midfield was getting slaughtered?

Also, you know jack shit about my life and what I do and I don't have the time nor the inclination to justify myself to you or anyone else just because they don't happen to agree with my opinion. My opinion is as valid as anyone else's, or do the only opinions that 'mean scrap' are the ones that apply to the 'Maddog' world view? If you don't like my posts, don't read them, I'm here to stay so suck it up or move on.

I guess what I am saying is put up or shut up Mike. Tell me why Gazza wasn't moved or why it was good move not to move him. Tell me what you see that I don't that would suggest that Bomber Thompson is coaching well? Explain to me the difference between the Richmond 'keepings off' and the Adelaide effort in round one (apart from what I've already mentioned, the length of time the tactic was employed). I'd also like to know how happy and smiley you would be after your side lost four grand finals, disappeared and re-emerged only to serve up an effort like last week against the Pies? All it took for you to come out snarling was for me to say that there was no difference between Adelaide in Round 1 and Richmond 8 and for me to state that Bomber has lost the plot. You sound like a one-eyed school teacher. Perhaps you should do something with intelligent with your life...you don't like when the kids talk back do you Dad?

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Postby Maddogmike » Tue May 23, 2006 10:33 pm

Dad? Im 24. Dont have kids and yeh I am a teacher.
Glad to hear you support your team. Well done.
Maybe you should write some of your thoughts on positional and tactical moves down and post them to the club.
Geelong were 3 seconds away from playing in a Prelim last year and not far from a GF the year before. I reckon he is doing a good job. You could be by far worse.
I havent mentioned anything about the Crows Richmond game since saturday, and as Im in England for 6 months, I didnt see the game but I get up at 6am to listen to it on MMM footy. I was lucky enough to see Geelongs tactics work the week b4 when Sky tv replayed the game against the Saints. Appears to me the players are lacking consistency more so than the coach. He has a proven track record and has got you to the finals more than alot of AFL coaches recently.
Chin up kid, and it might turn around for the cats one day.

Ive never been called Nostradumus - thanks for the compliment anyway.
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Postby mal » Tue May 23, 2006 10:37 pm

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Go the GE V SK grand final
One of us will be happy.....LOL......!
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