NORWOOD seconds v SCOTT WELSH

[mal]

In the reseves top team Norwood played bottom tean Woodville Welsh Torrens friday night.

The result NORWOOD 8-12 WOODVILLE Welsh TORRENS 18-10
A breakdown of the game:

NW................... 8GOALS
WWT.................9 GOALS
SCOTT WELSH...9 GOALS

This absurd rule of allowing an AFL affilaited player to play is unfair.
Scott Welsh a West Adelaide/Crows player represented the WWT team under
a stupid ruling because West had a bye.
The ruling from my understanding is he was illegible to play for WWT because they
were bottom on the premiership ladder.
One player does not make that much difference BUT how would the result had panned
out if her played for NW and not WWT.

The ramifications could be NW missing top spot now.
Also probably some young kid was dropped for WWT to make a spot for scotty.

Just another example of the AwFuL degrading our comp.

[Adelaide Hawk]

If we could eradicate the bye, this would never happen.

[am Bays]

Big picture people, the Adelaide Crows and Port Power (to a lesser extent) are an important income stream for the SANFL. We need those clubs to be successful. We are happy to takes those clubs non-SANFL based players into our squads but we bitch and moan when they play for a 2nds team......

FWIW for the sake of development I had no problems with Ware playing for Centrals yesterday...

[mal]

Agree TASSIE
As long as the players play for thier aligned clubs.
The comp benefits from these stars playing in the SANFL.
Quite simply WELSH should have waited one more week.

[am Bays]

Agree TASSIE
As long as the players play for thier aligned clubs.
The comp benefits from these stars playing in the SANFL.
Quite simply WELSH should have waited one more week.

I understand where you are coming from Mal, but if tit is the best interests of Welsh or Clarke whatever tio play a game or half a game of 2nds footy whereever it may be I say let 'em play.....

Can you name the last 10 years league premiers and reserves premeirs.......?

[Adelaide Hawk]

Can you name the last 10 years league premiers and reserves premeirs.......?

I can

[mal]

I can't.

[cd]

Skipworth may need to play for a reserves team other than us this week as we have the bye and he should be back from injury.

[mal]

cd

would be Sturt as they are bottom ?

[jim5112]

Playing against a player of that calibre would be great experience for your young reserves players. It should give them some idea of how good they really are... and who cares about who wins reserves games anyway?

[mal]

jim5112

Only the players.

[Wedgie]

Before our "resurgance" we had many AFL players playing for our ressies but they didn't make as big a difference as Welsh did on the weekend.
Just on that game and others, the ressies is an unbelievably even comp this year, when we were sitting top a few weeks ago the Eagles went within 2 or 3 goals of beating us and perhaps should have won.
There's bugerall difference between top and bottom and a player like Welsh can actually be the difference between the teams in those respective spots this year as its that close. Easily the closest comp I can remember anywhere so far.

[MightyEagles]

Sam Fairclough - 16 played reserves v Norwood
Jarred Petrenko - underage player, played reserves v Norwood
Zak Heir - underage player, played reserves v Norwood
Cody Hicks - underage player, played reserves v Norwood.
So what are getting at Mal. An young player dropped for welsh, maybe, maybe not.

[ca]

I watched about 3 and a half quarters of the game and it was ridiculous. Welsh just did what he liked, kicked 9 goals but probably could have kicked 15 goals. I haven't seen the Eagles reserves this year but you could tell they were playing with huge confidence having a target up forward.

It gets worse come finals when AFL listed players are able to keep playing through if the league team has been knocked out. I've mentioned it before but the ridiculous situation of Brett Ebert playing in a reserves final the year he won the Magarey Medal.

At the end of the day, as someone mentioned the bigger picture is it needs to happen but it does make a mockery of the reserves competition in particular as pointed out Welsh is not an Eagles player.

As I think Wedgie might have been alluding to, that for every good player the 9th place team would get, you might get one that doesn't contribute at all.

Also agree its a very even competition, even closer with Port knocking off South on the weekend.

[redandblack]

I presume that he'll be handy for Westies this week, then?

[Blue Boy]

I presume that he'll be handy for Westies this week, then?

You might be lucky to see him this week - unless that was enough for a call up !!!

[CK]

What does make the situation slightly silly, is that it is possible for an AFL-listed player to pick up, conceivably, 12 Reserves Magarey Medal votes in a season, representing 4 different clubs:

If the player is question is highly injury prone, with clubs having 3 byes in a year, he may be required to come back three times with the bottom club (assume that, with Reserves being very fickle this year, the bottom club is different each time). Let's say he also plays one game for his own, non-bottom club. For the sake of the argument, assume he burns each week and gets BOG each time.

I know this is highly unlikely, but imagine how strange it will be in the Reserves count with a player polling for up to four clubs. There needs to be a better system than this. I'm not sure what it is, but not sure the current one works. As ca said, Welsh was so clearly head and shoulders above most on the ground the other night, it wasn't funny.

[Aerie]

It's probably not fair that the bottom reserve team gets the AFL listed player if his SANFL club has a bye. It's also probably not fair that the bottom league teams get first choice of the incoming AFL talent available year after year and sometimes the top couple of teams don't get to add a player at all. But hey...

[mal]

MIGHTY EAGLE

"What am I getting at?"

Simplicity, that is a WWT player missed out on a
reserves guernsey because WELSH played.

If he plays again....thank goodness NW dont play ST this week!

[JK]

Doesn't seem right I know, but perhaps best not to look at one season in isolation ... I'm sure over a 10 year period it affects various clubs and has little impact on the competition