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What would make you change?

Postby smac » Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:29 am

A philosophical question that has stemmed from a not so philosophical decision I am currently faced with.

I am about to change jobs, which involves picking up a new car on a novated lease. I have always considered myself a Holden man, not to the point of being a fanatic but I did own a Holden jacket as a kid and I have never contemplated driving a Ford (have owned a Toyota, briefly) and always thought Dick Johnson was aptly named, just because he drove a Ford.

My new employer has a deal with Ford where I can purchase a 6 month old Falcon XR6 (current model) with a discount of approximately $10k.

This $10k is enough to make me buy a Falcon. Even though my Dad may not allow me back in his house!

What is enough money to compromise on different values/beliefs? Anyone faced something similar or even more troubling to their conscience?
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Re: What would make you change?

Postby JK » Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:31 am

I was really worred about what question you were going to ask then! :shock:
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Re: What would make you change?

Postby smac » Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:33 am

Saturday night is all it takes to make you change. And your legs look stunning when you wear heels... :lol:
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Re: What would make you change?

Postby Punk Rooster » Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:05 pm

the difference between Ford & Holdens is the same as between Hungry Jacks & McDonalds (ie f**k all).

Just do it smac! (you've seen my new beast :wink: )
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Re: What would make you change?

Postby smac » Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:06 pm

Yes I have. It's a nice car as well. Am off to test drive one today. Just not sure on the logistics of showering every time I get out of the car... :lol:
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Re: What would make you change?

Postby wycbloods » Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:13 pm

10K would be enough of an incentive for me :D .
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Re: What would make you change?

Postby Psyber » Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:32 pm

Well I bought a 7 year old Audi S2 with 88,000Km on the clock rather than a new top end Holden or Ford for similar money.
When I last had a Holden in th 1970s I thought they handled much better than the Fords of that era, and money would not have gotten me into a Ford.

I haven't compared them lately, but I didn't like the last Falcon I drove as a hire car in 1998. I preferred a Mitsubishi Lancer I hired in 2003 for a few days.
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Re: What would make you change?

Postby Hondo » Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:55 pm

smac it's $10K !

I am sure $10K will build all the emotional bridges you''ll need .... and you'll still have the $10K after construction is completed :D

I let go of a Holden attachment 5 years ago and am very happy with what i've got

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Re: What would make you change?

Postby Dutchy » Wed Sep 24, 2008 1:05 pm

my personal opinion is the VE Commodore is far superior having looked at both recently, however if the falcon was a $10k better deal for me I reckon if would make it an easy decision, I cant understand why some love cars so much and more thousands in them, as long as they are comfortable and get you wher eyou want to be thats all you need!
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Re: What would make you change?

Postby Dirko » Wed Sep 24, 2008 1:32 pm

Who gives a 5hit...a car is a car, as long as it takes you from point A to B in reasonable comfort and safety that's all you can ask.

The difference is when you get to point B you have an extra 10k to spend !!
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Re: What would make you change?

Postby the joker » Wed Sep 24, 2008 1:54 pm

Smac as you Know i am a Holden man as well but i came close to buying a Xr6 as well. they are cheaper to run and drive better than Ve commodores as well
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Re: What would make you change?

Postby Johno37 » Wed Sep 24, 2008 2:02 pm

ID HAVE A SEX CHANGE FOR 10K
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Re: What would make you change?

Postby smac » Wed Sep 24, 2008 2:04 pm

Lock the thread! It can't go anywhere but the gutter from here!!!
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Re: What would make you change?

Postby Dirko » Wed Sep 24, 2008 2:12 pm

Johno37 wrote:ID HAVE A SEX CHANGE FOR 10K


Tell ya Dad that..

Smac: "Well Dad, umm my work said I either get a Ford or I need to have a gender realignment...."

Snr Smac: "Well son. I'd rather you had a C*** then a Ford, at least C***'s are useful"
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Re: What would make you change?

Postby Wedgie » Wed Sep 24, 2008 3:52 pm

I used to be a Holden man but didnt need any cash incentive to switch to Ford. The superior product and more room was enough at the time.
Last year was tossing up between a SV6 and a XR6 and was willing to change back to Holden but there was no comparison and went for the older XR.
I got a similar deal to you (10K off retail) and its great. Make sure you get the 6 speed.

Falcon less likely to be stolen and is a safer car roo.
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Re: What would make you change?

Postby smac » Wed Sep 24, 2008 3:55 pm

Is that the 6 spd manual or semi auto wedgie? I just drove the semi auto, pretty bloody nice, I must admit. It's the little things that I need to get used to, ford logo on the steering wheel looked really weird. Drives nicely, I think I'm sold.
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Re: What would make you change?

Postby Wedgie » Wed Sep 24, 2008 3:58 pm

smac wrote:Is that the 6 spd manual or semi auto wedgie? I just drove the semi auto, pretty bloody nice, I must admit. It's the little things that I need to get used to, ford logo on the steering wheel looked really weird. Drives nicely, I think I'm sold.


6 speed auto mate (they call it semi auto but you rarely use it).
German engineering and same gear box used in luxury cars worth 200k.

Make sure you get a GT stripe too, really adds to the look for minimal price.
Mines red with a white stripe, see if you can add some blue too. ;)
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Re: What would make you change?

Postby smac » Wed Sep 24, 2008 4:00 pm

Beauty, thanks for that. Up to colour and option selections now. Probably crank the price up to cover the $10k saving knowing me.
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Re: What would make you change?

Postby Dogwatcher » Wed Sep 24, 2008 4:00 pm

Psyber wrote:Well I bought a 7 year old Audi S2 with 88,000Km on the clock rather than a new top end Holden or Ford for similar money.
When I last had a Holden in th 1970s I thought they handled much better than the Fords of that era, and money would not have gotten me into a Ford.

I haven't compared them lately, but I didn't like the last Falcon I drove as a hire car in 1998. I preferred a Mitsubishi Lancer I hired in 2003 for a few days.
In the end it is value for money, not just money. If there is no value difference go with the money!


He didn't ask about the merits of the cars. He asked about the philosophy of changing them....

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Re: What would make you change?

Postby Punk Rooster » Wed Sep 24, 2008 4:07 pm

I could put a gold/silver/white/red GT stripe on mine, but I think it'll look better all-black.
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