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Re: Southern Football League

Postby BringBackDBush » Fri Oct 03, 2008 1:58 pm

Dont give me that Hackham sob story.
They were on track to be a successfull club in their own right like Happy Valley did from Div2.
They were beating pleanty of teams and had plenty of juniors and the area was and is growing.
The bottom line is they blew it.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Zelezny Chucks » Fri Oct 03, 2008 2:04 pm

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damian wrote:Very good point on the High School situation at Aldinga eagleman. Cardijn and Tatachilla Colleges als take a few out of the Aldinga area, Tatachilla feeds into Mclaren and Willunga, Cardijn into Porties and the Shoes.



Very true Damian. . Similar in the was Wirreanda feeds M/VALE . . Hackham gets the left overs .. . .when your 14 years old you want to play at a successful club.


Hackham was just as successful, if not more, during the 90's than Morphett Vale but it seems most of there players went chasing money and ended up at the Shoe. Hackham never recovered from being pillaged like that.

Kids and Parents will always want the best conditions for them to play in, which ever club provides a good junior program will prosper. Noarlunga who went out and bought players are now, I believe, seeing the benefit of developing good juniors and will be a strong club for years to come because of this.

Having said that too much focus on junior success can leave clubs in a situation like Flaggies in that they always have promising juniors but it doesn't translate later into senior success.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby BringBackDBush » Fri Oct 03, 2008 2:22 pm

Zelezny Chucks wrote:
eagleman22 wrote:
damian wrote:Very good point on the High School situation at Aldinga eagleman. Cardijn and Tatachilla Colleges als take a few out of the Aldinga area, Tatachilla feeds into Mclaren and Willunga, Cardijn into Porties and the Shoes.



Very true Damian. . Similar in the was Wirreanda feeds M/VALE . . Hackham gets the left overs .. . .when your 14 years old you want to play at a successful club.


Hackham was just as successful, if not more, during the 90's than Morphett Vale but it seems most of there players went chasing money and ended up at the Shoe. Hackham never recovered from being pillaged like that.

Kids and Parents will always want the best conditions for them to play in, which ever club provides a good junior program will prosper. Noarlunga who went out and bought players are now, I believe, seeing the benefit of developing good juniors and will be a strong club for years to come because of this.

Having said that too much focus on junior success can leave clubs in a situation like Flaggies in that they always have promising juniors but it doesn't translate later into senior success.


The Bushpigs played in an A grade GF against Plympton in 87. We were the only team to make them earn the flag over the 3 years thay won it. Score 7.9 to 5.15.
Juniors are more important than anyting when it comes to a clubs future.
Flagies will be back, the stint in Div 2 was helping the re build until the League stuffed it up and brought us all into Div 1. Give me a 8 div1 / 6 div2 / final 4 for both and negotiable promotion religation for top and bottom 2
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Zelezny Chucks » Fri Oct 03, 2008 2:30 pm

BringBackDBush wrote:
Zelezny Chucks wrote:
eagleman22 wrote:
damian wrote:Very good point on the High School situation at Aldinga eagleman. Cardijn and Tatachilla Colleges als take a few out of the Aldinga area, Tatachilla feeds into Mclaren and Willunga, Cardijn into Porties and the Shoes.



Very true Damian. . Similar in the was Wirreanda feeds M/VALE . . Hackham gets the left overs .. . .when your 14 years old you want to play at a successful club.


Hackham was just as successful, if not more, during the 90's than Morphett Vale but it seems most of there players went chasing money and ended up at the Shoe. Hackham never recovered from being pillaged like that.

Kids and Parents will always want the best conditions for them to play in, which ever club provides a good junior program will prosper. Noarlunga who went out and bought players are now, I believe, seeing the benefit of developing good juniors and will be a strong club for years to come because of this.

Having said that too much focus on junior success can leave clubs in a situation like Flaggies in that they always have promising juniors but it doesn't translate later into senior success.


The Bushpigs played in an A grade GF against Plympton in 87. We were the only team to make them earn the flag over the 3 years thay won it. Score 7.9 to 5.15.
Juniors are more important than anyting when it comes to a clubs future.
Flagies will be back, the stint in Div 2 was helping the re build until the League stuffed it up and brought us all into Div 1. Give me a 8 div1 / 6 div2 / final 4 for both and negotiable promotion religation for top and bottom 2


Careful, Reynella had A Grade success a long time ago too.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Esteban Vihaio » Fri Oct 03, 2008 2:31 pm

BringBackDBush wrote:Hackham was just as successful, if not more, during the 90's than Morphett Vale but it seems most of there players went chasing money and ended up at the Shoe. Hackham never recovered from being pillaged like that.



At the time of Hackham's drop from div 1 respectability, a major reason was rumored to be off field drama's.

What ever happened to that ruckman from Hackham, then Noarlunga, refined in martial arts, who kept hitting guys behind play and getting suspended for 12 weeks? I seem to remember hearing after each suspension, he was threatened with life bans by the SFL tribunal, but they never backed up their words.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby BringBackDBush » Fri Oct 03, 2008 2:36 pm

Sorry Zelezney, can't embed any more quotes.
Reynella are a club well worthy of the Div 1 SFL and they will stay that way.
I hope the Bush Pigs get close to that sort of success U14s are leading the way. :supz:
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby BringBackDBush » Fri Oct 03, 2008 2:39 pm

Esteban Vihaio wrote:
BringBackDBush wrote:Hackham was just as successful, if not more, during the 90's than Morphett Vale but it seems most of there players went chasing money and ended up at the Shoe. Hackham never recovered from being pillaged like that.



At the time of Hackham's drop from div 1 respectability, a major reason was rumored to be off field drama's.

What ever happened to that ruckman from Hackham, then Noarlunga, refined in martial arts, who kept hitting guys behind play and getting suspended for 12 weeks? I seem to remember hearing after each suspension, he was threatened with life bans by the SFL tribunal, but they never backed up their words.


I say again, Hackam had it and they blew it.
There are many reasons but the bottom line is THEY BLEW IT!
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby shoe boy » Fri Oct 03, 2008 2:42 pm

Esteban Vihaio wrote:
BringBackDBush wrote:Hackham was just as successful, if not more, during the 90's than Morphett Vale but it seems most of there players went chasing money and ended up at the Shoe. Hackham never recovered from being pillaged like that.



At the time of Hackham's drop from div 1 respectability, a major reason was rumored to be off field drama's.

What ever happened to that ruckman from Hackham, then Noarlunga, refined in martial arts, who kept hitting guys behind play and getting suspended for 12 weeks? I seem to remember hearing after each suspension, he was threatened with life bans by the SFL tribunal, but they never backed up their words.

Esteban,you would be talking about big Mal,dont know about hitting guys behind play I would say straight in front of you? Well big Mal no longer plays and until he came to the Shoe I to had an opinion of an idiot but as normally happens when you get to know someone your opinion changes and no more so than Mal,a quite family man and now holds a seniour managment role for an international company. :o
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Zelezny Chucks » Fri Oct 03, 2008 2:45 pm

BringBackDBush wrote:Sorry Zelezney, can't embed any more quotes.
Reynella are a club well worthy of the Div 1 SFL and they will stay that way.
I hope the Bush Pigs get close to that sort of success U14s are leading the way. :supz:


Juniors have been leading the way at Flaggies for too long now.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby eagleman22 » Fri Oct 03, 2008 2:52 pm

Zelezny Chucks wrote:
BringBackDBush wrote:Sorry Zelezney, can't embed any more quotes.
Reynella are a club well worthy of the Div 1 SFL and they will stay that way.
I hope the Bush Pigs get close to that sort of success U14s are leading the way. :supz:


Juniors have been leading the way at Flaggies for too long now.



Are flaggies juniors leaving or whats happening. They have had really strong juniors for 5 or 6 years now. . I havent seen their games this year but are they on the verge of turning into a strong A grade side? From memory they have won numerous u16 and u14 flags.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby eagleman22 » Fri Oct 03, 2008 2:54 pm

shoe boy wrote:
Esteban Vihaio wrote:
BringBackDBush wrote:Hackham was just as successful, if not more, during the 90's than Morphett Vale but it seems most of there players went chasing money and ended up at the Shoe. Hackham never recovered from being pillaged like that.



At the time of Hackham's drop from div 1 respectability, a major reason was rumored to be off field drama's.

What ever happened to that ruckman from Hackham, then Noarlunga, refined in martial arts, who kept hitting guys behind play and getting suspended for 12 weeks? I seem to remember hearing after each suspension, he was threatened with life bans by the SFL tribunal, but they never backed up their words.

Esteban,you would be talking about big Mal,dont know about hitting guys behind play I would say straight in front of you? Well big Mal no longer plays and until he came to the Shoe I to had an opinion of an idiot but as normally happens when you get to know someone your opinion changes and no more so than Mal,a quite family man and now holds a seniour managment role for an international company. :o



Hackham may have been more successful than M/Vale in the late 80's and very early 90's but M/Vale was a stronger club in the 90's. The won lots of junior flags and those players make up the A grade team of 2004-2007. . Yes Hachkam won a B grade flag in 90's but so did M/Vale . .and M/Vale played in a A grade GF.
At he end of the day Hackham is still Hackham. . Not the most glam place in the world. . They could change their name to Huntfield heights but i dont think that works, haha
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Esteban Vihaio » Fri Oct 03, 2008 2:58 pm

shoe boy wrote:
Esteban Vihaio wrote:
BringBackDBush wrote:Hackham was just as successful, if not more, during the 90's than Morphett Vale but it seems most of there players went chasing money and ended up at the Shoe. Hackham never recovered from being pillaged like that.



At the time of Hackham's drop from div 1 respectability, a major reason was rumored to be off field drama's.

What ever happened to that ruckman from Hackham, then Noarlunga, refined in martial arts, who kept hitting guys behind play and getting suspended for 12 weeks? I seem to remember hearing after each suspension, he was threatened with life bans by the SFL tribunal, but they never backed up their words.

Esteban,you would be talking about big Mal,dont know about hitting guys behind play I would say straight in front of you? Well big Mal no longer plays and until he came to the Shoe I to had an opinion of an idiot but as normally happens when you get to know someone your opinion changes and no more so than Mal,a quite family man and now holds a seniour managment role for an international company. :o


He may not be an idiot off the field, but you can't argue with his suspension history on the field.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Cheese Twisties » Fri Oct 03, 2008 3:04 pm

BringBackDBush wrote:
Esteban Vihaio wrote:
BringBackDBush wrote:Hackham was just as successful, if not more, during the 90's than Morphett Vale but it seems most of there players went chasing money and ended up at the Shoe. Hackham never recovered from being pillaged like that.



At the time of Hackham's drop from div 1 respectability, a major reason was rumored to be off field drama's.

What ever happened to that ruckman from Hackham, then Noarlunga, refined in martial arts, who kept hitting guys behind play and getting suspended for 12 weeks? I seem to remember hearing after each suspension, he was threatened with life bans by the SFL tribunal, but they never backed up their words.


I say again, Hackam had it and they blew it.
There are many reasons but the bottom line is THEY BLEW IT!

Hackham blew it alright... they blew it straight out of a giant yoda bucket bong :weedman:

Just over 10 years ago their juniors included the likes of Chris Hall, Ben Woodhouse, Craig Malthouse, Lee Tilbrook, Dwaine and Matty Despott and their senior players Jody Tassone, Mal Lee (sorry Shoe Boy but he was a thug) , Marty Clifton and others, but the :weedman: culture at the time down there drove the majority of these players else where, mainly to the $hoe.

Ive still got a few mates there so heres hoping they can get themselves sorted...
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Cheese Twisties » Fri Oct 03, 2008 3:29 pm

AFLflyer wrote:I think reynella have to look forward now, evans is gone, like it or not move on. If you really want to look at the facts, the facts are Reynella A grade went from palying in two grand finals agianst a dominant emus, to loosing in a prelim, to not making a prelim.
Not blaming evans at all, but they are the facts. From what i hear/know Evans is well liked and brought some good players to the club, I'm not having a go at him, but move one.

Any candidates for the new coach? will Moore stay? My guess butcher will leave? Mensforth?

Hey Flyer, apparently Evans has the gig at Edwardtown for their debut season in the SFL, do you think there is any danger of any/many Reynella players following him? Say Butcher perhaps, didnt Evans bring him to Reynella? Or any of the newer recruits? Moore maybe?

Or perhaps even the keenest Evans fan of them all, FLY? (would Fly then change his login to TOWN?)
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby AFLflyer » Fri Oct 03, 2008 3:54 pm

Cheese Twisties wrote:
AFLflyer wrote:I think reynella have to look forward now, evans is gone, like it or not move on. If you really want to look at the facts, the facts are Reynella A grade went from palying in two grand finals agianst a dominant emus, to loosing in a prelim, to not making a prelim.
Not blaming evans at all, but they are the facts. From what i hear/know Evans is well liked and brought some good players to the club, I'm not having a go at him, but move one.

Any candidates for the new coach? will Moore stay? My guess butcher will leave? Mensforth?

Hey Flyer, apparently Evans has the gig at Edwardtown for their debut season in the SFL, do you think there is any danger of any/many Reynella players following him? Say Butcher perhaps, didnt Evans bring him to Reynella? Or any of the newer recruits? Moore maybe?

Or perhaps even the keenest Evans fan of them all, FLY? (would Fly then change his login to TOWN?)


We are all wondering if the fly will be changing his login and footy club? or maybe its the man himself - hahaha! either way he definitely has a soft spot for the big man!
From an opinion of an outsider looking in (ie -not an A grade player or official), i would say butcher could leave, and robo, moore will stay . There was talk of pressy leaving, but the club NEEDS him to stay, im sure that was just a rumour anyway! he's good role model for the juniors coming through!
they also need to play ALL their young guns next year as other clubs have (ie, pt noarlunga, brighton, noarlunga) I think M.Vale need to do the same!
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby t express » Fri Oct 03, 2008 4:00 pm

been alot said last few days on here jesus!! steve hill appointed mclaren coach all the best to him,dave evans to edwardstown dont think any players would follow could not play against reynella my opinion,butcher gone!!!! moore is staying, mensforth is keen but needs to see where he gonna be placed for work(teacher) few players to come back shane farrier and sherwood from the bays to finish off career with moore,lets hope the new coach whoever may be find out next week brings more depth with him,any word on the m/vale job boys!!
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby fly » Fri Oct 03, 2008 4:04 pm

AFLflyer wrote:
Cheese Twisties wrote:
AFLflyer wrote:I think reynella have to look forward now, evans is gone, like it or not move on. If you really want to look at the facts, the facts are Reynella A grade went from palying in two grand finals agianst a dominant emus, to loosing in a prelim, to not making a prelim.
Not blaming evans at all, but they are the facts. From what i hear/know Evans is well liked and brought some good players to the club, I'm not having a go at him, but move one.

Any candidates for the new coach? will Moore stay? My guess butcher will leave? Mensforth?

Hey Flyer, apparently Evans has the gig at Edwardtown for their debut season in the SFL, do you think there is any danger of any/many Reynella players following him? Say Butcher perhaps, didnt Evans bring him to Reynella? Or any of the newer recruits? Moore maybe?

Or perhaps even the keenest Evans fan of them all, FLY? (would Fly then change his login to TOWN?)


We are all wondering if the fly will be changing his login and footy club? or maybe its the man himself - hahaha! either way he definitely has a soft spot for the big man!
From an opinion of an outsider looking in (ie -not an A grade player or official), i would say butcher could leave, and robo, moore will stay . There was talk of pressy leaving, but the club NEEDS him to stay, im sure that was just a rumour anyway! he's good role model for the juniors coming through!
they also need to play ALL their young guns next year as other clubs have (ie, pt noarlunga, brighton, noarlunga) I think M.Vale need to do the same!


Sorry to dissapoint you blokes but i wont be leaving Reynella but think the big fella was trated poorly by the club.Have been at oval road since i was a kid will play there until i retire.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby reppoh_eht » Fri Oct 03, 2008 4:22 pm

Zelezny Chucks wrote:
BringBackDBush wrote:Sorry Zelezney, can't embed any more quotes.
Reynella are a club well worthy of the Div 1 SFL and they will stay that way.
I hope the Bush Pigs get close to that sort of success U14s are leading the way. :supz:


Juniors have been leading the way at Flaggies for too long now.


Really hate people saying this....

Our first Div 1 Flag was in 2003 with the Under 14's going undeftead, that is 5 years ago, those kids are now 18/19

Then in 2004 we went back to back, so these kids are now 17/18

In 2005 our Under 18's won the flag, so these guys are only 20/21/22 now

In 2007 we won the 16's, same story, would only be 17/18 now

And this year we won the Under 14's again

Now tell me how we are expected to be winning A Grade flags as it seems some people think we should? Out of the recent 6 seasons and with all the Junior sucess only a few are 22, the rest are all still 17/18/19. Name a team which has been dominant in SFL A Grade with a team made up of people that age? Keep in mind that we have limited experiance outside of these youngsters, i.e the older blokes in the team are all only 26.

I'm not defending our team because of our age, it is time we grew up and started winning against the top 6 sides, but for people to say we have been living of our Juniors is just wrong. Having strong Juniors doesnt recruit A Grade stars to the club, people generally play their best footy at ages 22 to probably 28, so the time is here for Flaggy to take on the top 6, but people have got to relise the kids who were making Flaggy so succesful in Juniors are still kids/teenagers.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby The Mexican » Fri Oct 03, 2008 4:25 pm

AFLflyer wrote:
Cheese Twisties wrote:
AFLflyer wrote:I think reynella have to look forward now, evans is gone, like it or not move on. If you really want to look at the facts, the facts are Reynella A grade went from palying in two grand finals agianst a dominant emus, to loosing in a prelim, to not making a prelim.
Not blaming evans at all, but they are the facts. From what i hear/know Evans is well liked and brought some good players to the club, I'm not having a go at him, but move one.

Any candidates for the new coach? will Moore stay? My guess butcher will leave? Mensforth?

Hey Flyer, apparently Evans has the gig at Edwardtown for their debut season in the SFL, do you think there is any danger of any/many Reynella players following him? Say Butcher perhaps, didnt Evans bring him to Reynella? Or any of the newer recruits? Moore maybe?

Or perhaps even the keenest Evans fan of them all, FLY? (would Fly then change his login to TOWN?)


We are all wondering if the fly will be changing his login and footy club? or maybe its the man himself - hahaha! either way he definitely has a soft spot for the big man!
From an opinion of an outsider looking in (ie -not an A grade player or official), i would say butcher could leave, and robo, moore will stay . There was talk of pressy leaving, but the club NEEDS him to stay, im sure that was just a rumour anyway! he's good role model for the juniors coming through!
they also need to play ALL their young guns next year as other clubs have (ie, pt noarlunga, brighton, noarlunga) I think M.Vale need to do the same!


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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Swooper16 » Fri Oct 03, 2008 4:30 pm

No but a strong junior program does attract quality coaches who in turn are usually able to bring at least 1-2 strong recruits. Think people have expected flaggies to be further along the road then where they sit currently.

Morphies and now cove have shown the right approach to SFL success and that is the blueprint Flaggies should be endeavouring to follow.
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