YOU ARE WHAT YOU EAT..................

[mighty_tiger_79]

the saying goes 'YOU ARE WHAT YOU EAT' , so my question is what are we eating????

generally all the foods are genetically modified, so what is good for us and what is killing us?

we go to junk food places like Maccas, hungry Jacks, KFC etc and we know its bad for us, but there are some supposedly good food out there that is just as bad as junk food, can anyone elaborate?

[Coorong]

My Doctor & her Doctor husband have conducted extensive research into the value of vegetables these days. Finding is, with the chemicals used during growth, long cold storage (up to six months) then the chemicals used to give them a longer shelf life, most of the natural vitamins have gone and been replaced by a few nasties.

Further they reckon taking vitamins orally is a waste as about 90% pass through the system. They put me on a weekly injection of Vitamin B (several varieties) plus ascorbic acid. 2ml per dose. Cost is $54.00 for 6 which lasts 6 weeks. I give the needle to myself weekly. 25mm needle, deep into the muscle above the buttock (no jokes please) Not a problem. Been doing so for 4 years.

Naturally the answer is to grow your own vegetable, but just dont have the space.

[magpie in the 80's]

i can think of other ways to spend approx. $1944 over the last 4years to keep alive then sticking a needle in my backside without knowing what it tastes like

[Jimmy]

fresh veggies, fruits and lean meats...pastas and breads kept to a minimum....cant argue with that....

[Dog_ger]

Bread.... If you can't see the seeds and grains, it doesn't have fibre...

Fibre is the key...?

Fish that live under the ice.....

Everything has to be low cholestoral.....

Potatoes are not that good. Color is important. The more colorful the better.

Moderation.... Everything in moderation...!

Red Wine....

A Good Woman...!

Be Happy...!

[mal]

fresh veggies, fruits and lean meats...pastas and breads kept to a minimum....cant argue with that....

Pity about the preservatives, chemicals, colourings they put on those Jimmy.

[mal]

This time last year I was fighting for my life after a serious
illness, I had treatments and hospital stays for 4 months.

The 2 things the heath practioners warned me off was :
A Red meat
B Dairy products

I had a zero tolerance diet with meat/dairy until I was better.
Anything pertaining to the cow was taboo.
Cows are often fed genetically modified feedings and are often fattened
up by growth hormones and pumped with antibiotics.
When cows are slaughtered and converted for human consumption,
they usually have soduim nitrate E250 input, which is very suspect.

As a rule I cant do much shopping in supermarkets and do 90 %
of all my shopping in Organic shops.

Nobody can ignore the fact that there is rising cancers, diabetes
and general obesity in the community.......coincidently since the
advent of supermarkets these illnesses have increased dramatically.

Even Fruits and vegetables are contaminated by sprays/chemicals
to improve appearence and shell life longevity.
I ate PLENTY of fruits/veges and still got very ill.

What I have learnt through absolute neccessity would SHOCK all
the viewers on safooty.

COORONG is spot on, ironically most people find out about suspect
food intakes when they become ill unfortunately.

I will post some controversial findings as we follow this topic.

[Punk Rooster]

if that's the case, I should look like a cat....

[mal]

if that's the case, I should look like a cat....

Stop pussyfooting around Punky!

[Dog_ger]

What about looking like a pussy, Punk...?

[am Bays]

if that's the case, I should look like a cat....

Always thought you looked like a ???? Punky.....

[mal]

FTA....E920...L-CYSTEINE

Found in some bakery items such as breads, pies, pasties etc.
Flour Treatment Agent is in fact chicken feathers.
But there are no known side effects when consumed, in
fact its an immune system enhancer.

If this disturbs you please check your labels.

[ORDoubleBlues]

951
Is in nearly all diet soft drinks, low fat flavoured milks, diet yoghurts, chewing gums and a lot of other low fat related food and drinks.
Hasn't been enough study done on it to show factual statements about any side effects but as a previous poster said regarding something else - moderation - is the thing to remember. Would only probably be a big concern for those people who are having several of these type products in a day.
Know though that the US Air Force has had a ban in place on all pilots consuming food or drink that contains 951 since 1985.

[mal]

951
Is in nearly all diet soft drinks, low fat flavoured milks, diet yoghurts, chewing gums and a lot of other low fat related food and drinks.
Hasn't been enough study done on it to show factual statements about any side effects but as a previous poster said regarding something else - moderation - is the thing to remember. Would only probably be a big concern for those people who are having several of these type products in a day.
Know though that the US Air Force has had a ban in place on all pilots consuming food or drink that contains 951 since 1985.

E951 ASPARTAME....Artificial Sweetener

One of the most suspect ingredients of all.
Is Nutrisweet,Equal,Spoonful.
In thousands of products.
Diet cokes/pepsis very suspect.

Health disorders from the book the Chemical Maze :
Cancer/asthma/MS like symptons/headaches/hyperactivity/fatigue/anxiety/dizziness/migraine/memory loss/depression/insomnia/irriitability/impotence[PUNK ROOSTER TAKE CARE] /epiepsy/blindness/diabetes/neuralgia/seizures/plus 80 other side effects.

From http://www.mbm.net.au :
Research currently in the USA in regard to incidence of Brain Tumours.

From MAL :
Wont cause tooth deacy or obesity copmpared to sugar products.[big deal]

from http://www.phi-spiral./com/articles/food additives html.
Temporarily banned in the mid 1970's because of fears that it caused Mental Retardation
and Endoctrine Dysfunction.
Known culprit of Ulticaria.
As mentioned by ASDOUBLEBLUES bnned for USA pilots.
In 9000 products from low joule to pharmacuticals. AVOID IT !

From MAL:
When i undertook a health awareness course in nutrition ASPARTAME was
told to be extremely suspect in health issues.
Various websites indicate to AVOID this Artificial Sweetener.
I personally would drink a Coke in preference to Diet coke.

[felicity shagwell]

Why are some additives harmful?
Mutagens and Teratogens are just two types of additives that are found in commonly consumed food and drinks. Mutagens are agents that damage DNA, while Teratogens are agents that cause birth defects.

Many additives currently allowed in Australia are questionable - banned in other countries (including America, Norway, Austria, Sweden, Russia, Denmark, Belgium, France, Germany, Switzerland, UK, and Japan), suspected carcinogens, links with hyperactivity, skin irritations and sleep disorders. They are often used to make food look better and last longer at the cheapest price. For example, a very popular chocolate coated chocolate biscuit is not brown in colour due to the cocoa content, but due to a combination of artificial colours - yellow, orange/red, blue, and brown. Harmful antioxidants are often used because they are cheaper than the safe ones.

A particular antioxidant (319) found in margarines, peanut butters, salad oils, etc, causes cancer and birth defects in animals, and a dose of 5 grams is fatal to an adult human.
Another antioxidant and preservative (320), found in some ice creams, margarines, chewing gums, etc, accumulates in the body fat so that residual levels increase over time. 320 is a known animal carcinogen, and produces detrimental reproductive effects in animal tests, it is a suspected human carcinogen, acts as a xeno-oestrogen (a substance that mimics the effects of oestrogen and has been shown to stimulate the growth of breast cells in laboratory cultures). Anyone for man-boobs?!

MSG (Monosodium L-Glutamate) is a white, tasteless powder used to enhance or modify flavours of food (eg any potato chips, savoury biscuits, rice crackers, etc that are flavoured probably contain MSG or one of the other flavour enhancers 620-635, which have the same range of adverse health impacts as MSG). In 1969 MSG was banned from use in baby foods in America due to research demonstrating that it caused detrimental effects on young animals, particularly the brain and nervous systems. Pregnant monkeys and rats fed MSG gave birth to brain-damaged offspring. Glutamates belong to a group of amino acids called "exitotoxins" - substances that, when applied to neurons, will cause them to become overstimulated, and if overstimulated too much, they will die (ie they kill brain cells). Ongoing research has implicated excess glutamate as a contributing factor in learning disorders, brain tumours, hyperactivity, Parkinson's disease, Alzheimer's disease and endocrine-system problems later in life. MSG is linked to asthma, sleep disturbances, migraine, irritability, and depression. MSG is not permitted in foods for infants and young children.

Hydrolysed Vegetable Protein - watch out for this one on the label. Apart from containing MSG, here's why to avoid it - it is made from junk vegetables selected for their high quantity of excitotoxins (they're those ones that kill brain cells), which are then boiled in a vat of sulphuric acid for several hours. The acid is then neutralised with caustic soda, the brown sludge that forms on top is scraped off and dried into a powder, containing known carcinogens and dicarboxylic acid. Yum.

Aspartame, commonly used as an artificial sweetener, is linked with the development of brain tumours in rats. It is also an excitotoxin (keep knocking off those brain cells). Saccharin, Acesulphame Potassium, and Cyclamates (also artificial sweeteners) aren't much better, Saccharin causing cancer in lab animals, and being classified as a weak human carcinogen, and Acesulphame Potassium promoting tumour growth in animals. Cyclamates are regarded as potential carcinogens.

Sodium nitrate and sodium nitrite (250 and 251) are widely considered to be toxic and carcinogenic in humans. Nitrites can enter the bloodstream and change the nature of red blood cells which transport oxygen. These additives are not permitted in foods for infants and young children. Nitrites and nitrates are known to react with amines in meats to form nitrosamines, which are hazardous poisons and animal carcinogens.

Sulphites (220-228) are shown to trigger asthma attacks in sufferers, as sulphur dioxide gas is released and inhaled as the food is swallowed. 220 is a suspected mutagen and possible teratogen.

Now I know people say that everything causes cancer in rats, so think about this... Every human carcinogen causes cancer in animals; every chemical known to cause brain damage in humans causes damage to the brain and nervous systems of animals; every chemical known to interfere with reproductive function in humans interferes with reproduction in animals; almost every known cause of birth defects in humans also causes birth defects in animals; with a few exceptions, when toxic chemicals harm animals, they almost always cause similar harm in humans.

A study in the UK estimated that by age 18, most children will have consumed half their body weight in food additives.

Oh and you know those additives that are not permitted in foods for infants and young children? Sadly Food Standards Australia and New Zealand define infants and young children as those under 12 months old. So those corn chips or potato chips or rice crackers that young children are munching on actually contain flavour enhancers (see MSG information above). But god forbid them having it if they are under 12 months...

Now here's the really scary bit:
Food labelling laws in Australia suck! Manufacturers can get away with not listing additives if they are present in an ingredient that comprises 5% or less of the product.
For example, a company producing muesli bars that contains vegetable oil is not required to list the additives contained in the vegetable oil itself, as the oil makes up less than 5% of the muesli bar. Food Standards Australia and New Zealand recently changed this law - it used to be 10% rather than 5%. They have kept the law in place as they believe that additives currently allowed in Australia can be considered safe (even when banned in other countries!).
This is not fair! Consumers deserve the opportunity to decide for ourselves. Particularly those of us who have allergies to certain additives. Manufacturers need to be forced to come clean on their labels. They've got it pretty easy - when it comes to listing additives, they have a choice whether they list the additive by name or number - many are moving towards names as more consumers are becoming wary of buying products with large amounts of numbers in the ingredients. Some companies are even smarter - they use the chemical symbol - eg Sulphur Dioxide (220) is now sometimes listed as SO2. Makes it very hard for us to make informed choices.


For more info visit http://www.additivealert.com.au

[mal]

FELICITY SHAGWELL that is a superb post and much appreciated.

Was watching a current affair on ch9 tonite on which they had a report on how some butchers in Australia are selling meat with SULPHUR DIOXIDE added to meats.
SD [e220] is used extensively to brighten the colour in dried friuits, wines and soft drinks plus other uses.There are warnings issued on SD E220 for people who have an allergy to it.
Some butchers in Australia are spraying SD on meat to make the meats look red and fresh, so consumers will purchase it.
Basically meats that are going stale to a brown colour become red after SD is put on.

SULPHUR DIOXIDE [E220]

Is a preservative and Antioxidant.

Possible health effects[from the book The Chemical Maze]
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asthma/hyperactivity/headaches/backache/gastric irritation/liver toxicity/destrys vitA in food/terratogen/bronchitis/nausea.

MALS VERDICT
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A despicable act by these butchers to try and sell deteriating meats.
Kids are susceptable to SD and these a...holes are decieving the public.
Thank goodness there is a minority perpetuating these acts.

MALS ADVICE
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Go organic or have trust in your butcher.

[mighty_tiger_79]

i will admit i was a little ignorant with this topic, but i thankyou all for you information especially those with details about preservatives. i think ill be watching what i eat from now

[mighty_tiger_79]

given i have been ignorant about this topic and now im trying to be more alert in what im feeding my body, i have found some info on the net.

Now we all know that when we go to Macca's, Hungry Jacks, KFC etc we all know that its crap that we are eating, but i found some weird stuff when looking up Subways info about there ingredients.

i was quite shocked.

i thought chicken was chicken, but according the website it has more then chicken and what i was even more shocked was, that in the chicken they put in chicken flavouring, why would you need to do that?

anyway here is the site for you guys to go and have a look at what JARROD tells you is good for you...............



http://www.subway.com/subwayroot/menunu ... ients.aspx


tell me what you think?

what is all the stuff that they put in it all?

[mal]

SUBWAY

Wel well well the Healthy advertising this mob adheres to may
well be a fallacy after looking at MT79S www. reference!

DELI STYLE ROLL is interesting, I always thought that bread had about 4
basic ingredients FLOUR/SALT/WATER/YEAST
Subway has 30 + ingredients !

Included is DOUGH CONDITIONER and when I looked it up
it is CHICKEN FEATHERS .................................................

IF YOU TYPE UP DOUGH CONDITIONER CHICKEN FEATHERS in your
search engines you might get a shock !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Punk Rooster]

I'm gonna kill myself, so this stuff doesn't...