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Re: 2009 Recruits to SANFL Clubs

Postby Big Phil » Fri Nov 14, 2008 1:52 pm

Jackal wrote:Not sure if this has been mentioned elsewhere but do you West folk know that you have signed Shane Birse from St Kilda for 2 years, I think there is also a Ferguson also from St Kilda close to signing. Nathan Brown has offically left the club and is returning to Melbourne.


From where is your source for this information Jackal ???
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Re: 2009 Recruits to SANFL Clubs

Postby wycbloods » Fri Nov 14, 2008 1:59 pm

Big Phil wrote:
Jackal wrote:Not sure if this has been mentioned elsewhere but do you West folk know that you have signed Shane Birse from St Kilda for 2 years, I think there is also a Ferguson also from St Kilda close to signing. Nathan Brown has offically left the club and is returning to Melbourne.


From where is your source for this information Jackal ???


I know the 'inner sanctum' are very tight lipped atm as they have been criticised in the past for leaks well before acceptances. I know the coach would be very dissappointed if someone had 'leaked' some of this information. It was one of the first things he addressed in his time at westies was the confidence to speak freely with people without the content becoming public.

So heres hoping it was not from someone within the club but from somewhere else. Who does the jackal even support?
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Re: 2009 Recruits to SANFL Clubs

Postby Big Phil » Fri Nov 14, 2008 2:13 pm

wycbloods wrote:
Big Phil wrote:
Jackal wrote:Not sure if this has been mentioned elsewhere but do you West folk know that you have signed Shane Birse from St Kilda for 2 years, I think there is also a Ferguson also from St Kilda close to signing. Nathan Brown has offically left the club and is returning to Melbourne.


From where is your source for this information Jackal ???


I know the 'inner sanctum' are very tight lipped atm as they have been criticised in the past for leaks well before acceptances. I know the coach would be very dissappointed if someone had 'leaked' some of this information. It was one of the first things he addressed in his time at westies was the confidence to speak freely with people without the content becoming public.

So heres hoping it was not from someone within the club but from somewhere else. Who does the jackal even support?


Good point wcybloods...

I believe Jackal is a Woodville West Torrens supporter but don't quote me on it ???
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Re: 2009 Recruits to SANFL Clubs

Postby Jackal » Fri Nov 14, 2008 2:37 pm

Big Phil and WYC, yes I am very much an Eagles member and supporter and have followed them through thin and thinner. Whilst I do not make many entries to the forums they are usually accurate and come from good sources...players from within various clubs. I expect that Birss and Ferguson will be subject to the draft hence Westies keeping the lid on things. This is good stuff from Westies to have these two lined up.The only rebuff I have had from my entries on this forum was from one of the South members who thought my comments on Jack Cahill being obsolete when he was appointed were way off the mark. Wow ! how wrong I was.
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Re: 2009 Recruits to SANFL Clubs

Postby wycbloods » Fri Nov 14, 2008 3:09 pm

Jackal wrote:Big Phil and WYC, yes I am very much an Eagles member and supporter and have followed them through thin and thinner. Whilst I do not make many entries to the forums they are usually accurate and come from good sources...players from within various clubs. I expect that Birss and Ferguson will be subject to the draft hence Westies keeping the lid on things. This is good stuff from Westies to have these two lined up.The only rebuff I have had from my entries on this forum was from one of the South members who thought my comments on Jack Cahill being obsolete when he was appointed were way off the mark. Wow ! how wrong I was.


Thanks Jackal i wasn't trying to say that you were wrong or discredit what you have to say but i was interested as to where your info was coming from because i know certain parts of the club are not talking about recruits. Players however, seem to be a little more open in talks of who has signed where and so on. Maybe when you speak to these guys you can pass on the info to me more often as you obviously get it before the club is willing to give it out :) .
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Re: 2009 Recruits to SANFL Clubs

Postby Big Phil » Fri Nov 14, 2008 4:44 pm

Jackal wrote:Big Phil and WYC, yes I am very much an Eagles member and supporter and have followed them through thin and thinner. Whilst I do not make many entries to the forums they are usually accurate and come from good sources...players from within various clubs. I expect that Birss and Ferguson will be subject to the draft hence Westies keeping the lid on things. This is good stuff from Westies to have these two lined up.The only rebuff I have had from my entries on this forum was from one of the South members who thought my comments on Jack Cahill being obsolete when he was appointed were way off the mark. Wow ! how wrong I was.


That's right, I think we met at Adelaide Oval on Preliminary Final weekend, you were there watching the Eags get into the GF after upsetting the more fancied Tigers.

I wasn't questioning your sources in any demeaning way, I was just curious as to from where you heard about the signings. I vaguely remember you being an Eagles fan and thought that any news on Bloods recruits would have come from redandblack, Thiele or someone closer from the inner sanctum down at Broadspectrum Oval.
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Re: 2009 Recruits to SANFL Clubs

Postby Big Phil » Fri Nov 14, 2008 4:59 pm

Nathan Carroll was today officially "delisted" by the Melbourne Football Club.

Haivng kept him on their list after the October 31 cut off date for final list lodgement, the Dees have agreed to pay his salary (which will be included in their 2009 total player payments or TTP) for next year but have told him his services are not required.

I know he was keen to train with St. Kilda in a hope to resurrect his AFL career but the WA native, recruited from Claremont, would certainly be a very handy full back in any SANFL team and they wouldn't have to worry about the Salary Cap aspect because of the income he will receive from his former AFL club.

Has a bit of a "bad boy" stigma attached which might put off other AFL clubs. Would be a good in the SANFL I reckon.
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Re: 2009 Recruits to SANFL Clubs

Postby fester69 » Fri Nov 14, 2008 5:06 pm

I'd have Nathan Carroll at Norwood in the blink of an eye! Got that bit of mongrel in him we need so badly!
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Re: 2009 Recruits to SANFL Clubs

Postby Conrad Gates » Fri Nov 14, 2008 5:06 pm

Big Phil wrote:Nathan Carroll was today officially "delisted" by the Melbourne Football Club.

Haivng kept him on their list after the October 31 cut off date for final list lodgement, the Dees have agreed to pay his salary (which will be included in their 2009 total player payments or TTP) for next year but have told him his services are not required.

I know he was keen to train with St. Kilda in a hope to resurrect his AFL career but the WA native, recruited from Claremont, would certainly be a very handy full back in any SANFL team and they wouldn't have to worry about the Salary Cap aspect because of the income he will receive from his former AFL club.

Has a bit of a "bad boy" stigma attached which might put off other AFL clubs. Would be a good in the SANFL I reckon.


He might still be a fair chance to go in the draft Big Phil...
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Re: 2009 Recruits to SANFL Clubs

Postby Big Phil » Fri Nov 14, 2008 6:18 pm

Conrad Gates wrote:
Big Phil wrote:Nathan Carroll was today officially "delisted" by the Melbourne Football Club.

Haivng kept him on their list after the October 31 cut off date for final list lodgement, the Dees have agreed to pay his salary (which will be included in their 2009 total player payments or TTP) for next year but have told him his services are not required.

I know he was keen to train with St. Kilda in a hope to resurrect his AFL career but the WA native, recruited from Claremont, would certainly be a very handy full back in any SANFL team and they wouldn't have to worry about the Salary Cap aspect because of the income he will receive from his former AFL club.

Has a bit of a "bad boy" stigma attached which might put off other AFL clubs. Would be a good in the SANFL I reckon.


He might still be a fair chance to go in the draft Big Phil...


No doubt mate, like I said he is hoping to train with St. Kilda in hope of rejuventing his career. He has quit the drink all together and is working out on a daily basis with a well respected boxing trainer in Melbourne. Would be a very strong chance to get another AFL lifeline I would think.
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Re: 2009 Recruits to SANFL Clubs

Postby dash61 » Fri Nov 14, 2008 6:47 pm

fester69 wrote:I'd have Nathan Carroll at Norwood in the blink of an eye! Got that bit of mongrel in him we need so badly!


If you couldn't have Carroll how about Andrew Lee (Essendon) & Kris Massie for 2009
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Re: 2009 Recruits to SANFL Clubs

Postby bundy » Fri Nov 14, 2008 8:11 pm

Any leaks from Westies would not come from Thiele or Red and black.They are true club men and don't have loose lips.
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Re: 2009 Recruits to SANFL Clubs

Postby Locky » Fri Nov 14, 2008 9:16 pm

dash61 wrote:
fester69 wrote:I'd have Nathan Carroll at Norwood in the blink of an eye! Got that bit of mongrel in him we need so badly!


If you couldn't have Carroll how about Andrew Lee (Essendon) & Kris Massie for 2009


Do you know something about Massie that I don't Dash?
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Re: 2009 Recruits to SANFL Clubs

Postby fester69 » Fri Nov 14, 2008 10:16 pm

dash61 wrote:
fester69 wrote:I'd have Nathan Carroll at Norwood in the blink of an eye! Got that bit of mongrel in him we need so badly!


If you couldn't have Carroll how about Andrew Lee (Essendon) & Kris Massie for 2009


I reckon we've got Lee already but my mail is Massie will be heading home to Vic if not drafted by anyone! :(
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Re: 2009 Recruits to SANFL Clubs

Postby SimonH » Fri Nov 14, 2008 10:38 pm

fester69 wrote:
dash61 wrote:
fester69 wrote:I'd have Nathan Carroll at Norwood in the blink of an eye! Got that bit of mongrel in him we need so badly!


If you couldn't have Carroll how about Andrew Lee (Essendon) & Kris Massie for 2009


I reckon we've got Lee already but my mail is Massie will be heading home to Vic if not drafted by anyone! :(
Not surprised at all. I have little doubt Massie would've made Norwood a first priority if he stayed in Adelaide; but when you've only moved over to further your AFL career, and your AFL career isn't there anymore, can't blame him for moving back.

I would be beyond flabbergasted if Carroll were re-drafted by anyone. AFL clubs aren't convents, and SANFL clubs even less so, but I would want Norwood to do the most stringent vetting imaginable on Carroll before signing him. Pfeiffer and Cockshell are current/recent NFC players who have got in trouble because they like a cool drink on a warm day-- and they're only the ones well-publicised in the media-- and your senior players set the tone for the rest of the squad. And when I say stringent vetting, I don't mean a fireside chat saying, 'try to stay off the booze, old boy'. I agree that otherwise picking him up would be sorely tempting, because on-field, he's a perfect fit for what we need.
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Re: 2009 Recruits to SANFL Clubs

Postby dash61 » Sat Nov 15, 2008 6:31 am

fester69 wrote:
dash61 wrote:
fester69 wrote:I'd have Nathan Carroll at Norwood in the blink of an eye! Got that bit of mongrel in him we need so badly!


If you couldn't have Carroll how about Andrew Lee (Essendon) & Kris Massie for 2009


I reckon we've got Lee already but my mail is Massie will be heading home to Vic if not drafted by anyone! :(


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Re: 2009 Recruits to SANFL Clubs

Postby Psyber » Sat Nov 15, 2008 7:48 am

SimonH wrote: Not surprised at all. I have little doubt Massie would've made Norwood a first priority if he stayed in Adelaide; but when you've only moved over to further your AFL career, and your AFL career isn't there anymore, can't blame him for moving back.

I would be beyond flabbergasted if Carroll were re-drafted by anyone. AFL clubs aren't convents, and SANFL clubs even less so, but I would want Norwood to do the most stringent vetting imaginable on Carroll before signing him. Pfeiffer and Cockshell are current/recent NFC players who have got in trouble because they like a cool drink on a warm day-- and they're only the ones well-publicised in the media-- and your senior players set the tone for the rest of the squad. And when I say stringent vetting, I don't mean a fireside chat saying, 'try to stay off the booze, old boy'. I agree that otherwise picking him up would be sorely tempting, because on-field, he's a perfect fit for what we need.
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Re: 2009 Recruits to SANFL Clubs

Postby ferret » Sat Nov 15, 2008 9:08 am

Big Phil you are getting Jackal and ferret mixed up. ferret caught up with you during the final series at Adelaide Oval. I know Jackal very well and his sources are impeccable.
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Re: 2009 Recruits to SANFL Clubs

Postby Big Phil » Sat Nov 15, 2008 9:31 am

ferret wrote:Big Phil you are getting Jackal and ferret mixed up. ferret caught up with you during the final series at Adelaide Oval. I know Jackal very well and his sources are impeccable.


Fairy Nuff :oops:

My bad...

They are kind of similar and you are both Eagles fans, so it easy to see where the mistake was made :wink:

At least that's what I'm telling myself anyway :D
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Re: 2009 Recruits to SANFL Clubs

Postby wycbloods » Sat Nov 15, 2008 10:10 am

SimonH wrote:
fester69 wrote:
dash61 wrote:
fester69 wrote:I'd have Nathan Carroll at Norwood in the blink of an eye! Got that bit of mongrel in him we need so badly!


If you couldn't have Carroll how about Andrew Lee (Essendon) & Kris Massie for 2009


I reckon we've got Lee already but my mail is Massie will be heading home to Vic if not drafted by anyone! :(
Not surprised at all. I have little doubt Massie would've made Norwood a first priority if he stayed in Adelaide; but when you've only moved over to further your AFL career, and your AFL career isn't there anymore, can't blame him for moving back.

I would be beyond flabbergasted if Carroll were re-drafted by anyone. AFL clubs aren't convents, and SANFL clubs even less so, but I would want Norwood to do the most stringent vetting imaginable on Carroll before signing him. Pfeiffer and Cockshell are current/recent NFC players who have got in trouble because they like a cool drink on a warm day-- and they're only the ones well-publicised in the media-- and your senior players set the tone for the rest of the squad. And when I say stringent vetting, I don't mean a fireside chat saying, 'try to stay off the booze, old boy'. I agree that otherwise picking him up would be sorely tempting, because on-field, he's a perfect fit for what we need.


Not too many warm days in winter :wink: and i think they have enjoyed a couple to many during the season.
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