Posthumous Reproduction

[The Big Shrek]

The legislation is about to change to allow widows to use their deceased husbands sperm provided he made his intentions clear. What does everyone think?

I haven't had a look at the bill, but I'd be interested to see how it is worded to avoid same sex couples taking advantage of IVF. I don't think little old SA is ready for that step yet.

[JK]

I guess we are most affected by what we know, and I had a mate who was undergoing treatment and had his taddies stored away, in case there was any damage preventing him from producing them if he we was successful with his treatment OR for his wife to use if he was unsuccessful.

Sadly he lost his fight but his wife has been keen to (hopefully) have his child, so I'm all for it.

Im sure there's more to it that I have thought about yet, but off the top of my head I think it's a great ruling.

[The Big Shrek]

Is that Blake the Norwood player CP? His wife was on the news.

I'm pretty much always for allowing freedoms. I can't understand how anyone could deny these people who are affected by tragedy the choice to reproduce with the person they loved.

No doubt some opponents who believe they have a moral monopoly over socially acceptable familial units will come along and have a sook though.

I think there should allow women to use their partner's sperm in the absence of explicit consent. The partner's dead anyway so it's not like it affects him.

[JK]

Yeah it is mate, and I agree with you too

[Dirko]

I think it's OK. If that is the wish of the couple involved and it has been declared through the proper legal channels then why not.
Also need to make sure the Fathers side of the family has some dealings with the child too, as there would definitely be a connection there.

Better to have a child bought up by a sole parent WANTING the child, then some basket-case that pushes them out to get benefits from the Government.

[The Big Shrek]

I think it's OK. If that is the wish of the couple involved and it has been declared through the proper legal channels then why not.
Also need to make sure the Fathers side of the family has some dealings with the child too, as there would definitely be a connection there.

Better to have a child bought up by a sole parent WANTING the child, then some basket-case that pushes them out to get benefits from the Government.

Some people might argue that a child should never be delibarately brought up outside the tradional familial unit. They might also say that it is distressing for the child not to know its father. I think they are all an extension of the nature/god is inherently good and science bad rubbish. There's always the slippery slope rubbish too.

The lady on the news seemed very reasonable about it too. She said that she was just happy the option was there for her when/if she felt ready.

[Dirko]

Some people might argue that a child should never be delibarately brought up outside the tradional familial unit. They might also say that it is distressing for the child not to know its father.

Traditional Family Unit ? What would you call a family that send there 6 y/o daughter to the FMC, with a infected leg, from a wound over a month old, stay in hospital by herself upward of 16 hours (it happened as my Sister was there with her ill premature baby who's now 6 months old), and this family had a baby the same time as my sister, and it was on "withdrawal" watch from a drug addicted mum. Both Mum and Dad showed up once in 2 and a half days. I'd know what upbringing I'd like.

[The Big Shrek]

Some people might argue that a child should never be delibarately brought up outside the tradional familial unit. They might also say that it is distressing for the child not to know its father.

Traditional Family Unit ? What would you call a family that send there 6 y/o daughter to the FMC, with a infected leg, from a wound over a month old, stay in hospital by herself upward of 16 hours (it happened as my Sister was there with her ill premature baby who's now 6 months old), and this family had a baby the same time as my sister, and it was on "withdrawal" watch from a drug addicted mum. Both Mum and Dad showed up once in 2 and a half days. I'd know what upbringing I'd like.

Maybe we should make it IVF only then. You need to pass a test like the citizenship one to reproduce.

[Dirko]

Maybe we should make it IVF only then. You need to pass a test like the citizenship one to reproduce.

Seriously ? Not a bad idea. 99 out of 100 parents would pass with flying colours. It'd cut out the "feral" element that can't take care of kids in a safe and secure environment or only pump them out to receive hand out after hand out.....

EDIT: Sorry for taking this off topic. Back on tack.....

[The Big Shrek]

Not really off topic at all. The crucial question is what restrictions should we put on people to reproduce, if any?

[bayman]

ban the pram 'lady' for one

seriously i think this would have to be done legally first, not just a 'willy nilly' approach

perhaps it can be recorded on a drivers licence as well (ie like organ donors)

i'll have to give this more thought though

[Pseudo]

Kinda like necrophilia, isn't it?

[Pseudo]

FWIW there appear to be some controls on the law; have a gander here: http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/stor ... 01,00.html

"The new Bill will include provisions to allow the posthumous use by women of a deceased partner's sperm, under certain strict conditions," he said.

Those conditions include that the deceased had left clear consent and an "appropriate" period of time has passed before conception is attempted.

Under those conditions I see no reason why the lady in question shouldn't receive the ol' turkey baster treatment. Good luck to her.