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Re: who is coaching osb/lonsdale

Postby rodney fox » Wed Dec 24, 2008 7:51 am

plays tall wrote:heard lonsdale signed five quality players how does this new points system work as i know they are after more to help with depth problems


If you're from Lonsdale as your profile says, then have you just heard it or are you just hoping? It would be interesting to see if Patto had any recruiting abilities.....
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Re: who is coaching osb/lonsdale

Postby Zelezny Chucks » Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:15 am

Doesn't sound like you are a fan of the Lions new coach Foxy??
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Re: who is coaching osb/lonsdale

Postby the big bang » Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:21 am

Zelezny Chucks wrote:Doesn't sound like you are a fan of the Lions new coach Foxy??



although i will probably get accused of being negative towards lonsdale (AGAIN!), i think you will find that the new lonsdale "coach" wouldnt have many fans from his aldinga days, including myself!

the year he coached aldinga A grade, i actually left the club half way thru the year and returned to your beloved club ZC, and played out the year in red and black, just because i believe he wasnt a very good coach.

he may have changed, specially with a couple years under Ando, so hopefully for the lions, he has learnt a thing or two since the '04 season!
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Re: who is coaching osb/lonsdale

Postby lion heart » Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:37 am

You Aldinga boys are getting a bit ahead of yourselves.

Patterson was thrown into the Aldinga coaching job at late notice when he was meant to playing assistant coach under Teasdale i believe. Taking the head coaching role on with no experience was a tough introduction to coaching to say the least. He then spent a year at Gaza as Ando's assistant before Ando brought him to Cove with him. He has coached at three of the powerhouse clubs in s.a. and we have had strong endorsements from GAZA, Cove and Blackwood. Anderson himself reccommended Matt very highly and he came across as highly motivated, very structured, organised and professional in our interviews. We are very happy with our decision.

At the end of the day i think Gaza, Cove and Blackwood have a lot more credibility than Aldinga and i mean no disrespect in saying that, but i am getting sick of you guys slagging us and having cheap digs. As the saying goes those who live in glass houses should not throw stones.
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Re: who is coaching osb/lonsdale

Postby Zelezny Chucks » Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:03 am

All valid points LH but if he seems such an attractive prospect why wasn't he snapped up by another club? As far as appointing coaches go it was a late decision.

Surely he wasn't holding out for a more lucrative offer as we all know Lonsdale would be stupid to waste too much money on a coach.
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Re: who is coaching osb/lonsdale

Postby lion heart » Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:24 am

Basically he was promised another position which didnt eventuate. I think we were lucky to get him and believe it or not zc some very good coaches are still available and were interviewed by the Lions. Im talking about premiership coaches and guys that had coached at much higher level. Matt is really looking forward to the challenge and is under no illusions.

We look forward to working together with Matt and already there are some promising signs for 2009. We just want to earn back some respect which we lost last year. After appearing in 3 consecutive finals series we had a shocker in 2008 and copped it from everyone. All the guys are keen as mustard to restore the Lion pride in 2009.
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Re: who is coaching osb/lonsdale

Postby Ned » Wed Dec 24, 2008 3:31 pm

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Zelezny Chucks wrote:Doesn't sound like you are a fan of the Lions new coach Foxy??



although i will probably get accused of being negative towards lonsdale (AGAIN!), i think you will find that the new lonsdale "coach" wouldnt have many fans from his aldinga days, including myself!

the year he coached aldinga A grade, i actually left the club half way thru the year and returned to your beloved club ZC, and played out the year in red and black, just because i believe he wasnt a very good coach.

he may have changed, specially with a couple years under Ando, so hopefully for the lions, he has learnt a thing or two since the '04 season!


For starters TBB, Patto only excepted the Aldinga role in 04 because Peter Scheffulle quit 9 days before round 1. Patto knocked it back at first because he was new to the area and only wanted to be a player, he was eventually convinced to take on the job and had no other option but too work with the playing list available as it was too late too try and recruit 1 week out from round 1. It was a tough year 2004 but I think Patto did well to keep a team on the park. As a player he didn't perform too expectations held by other players and supporters, the fact he was a playing coach people expected more of him, they forgett that he walked in off the street to a struggling club with no intention to coach that year.
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Re: who is coaching osb/lonsdale

Postby plays tall » Wed Dec 24, 2008 5:59 pm

rodney fox i havent met the new coach yet i think these players have come from senior players on the phone and the president chris who does a great job meet the coach day is january 11th i also heard they had 26 at training last week non compulsary organised by players. if matt can recruit a few more players would be good ,but how does this new points system work .we have a couple of players playing this year that didnt play last year aswell.
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Re: who is coaching osb/lonsdale

Postby asert » Wed Dec 24, 2008 6:55 pm

i mean no dis respect to lonsdale but his first probably two years are gonna be hard hes got alot of digging to do but its not out of reach. good luck to the lions in 09
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Re: who is coaching osb/lonsdale

Postby JS SPORTS » Wed Dec 24, 2008 7:00 pm

the_big_bang wrote:
Zelezny Chucks wrote:Doesn't sound like you are a fan of the Lions new coach Foxy??



although i will probably get accused of being negative towards lonsdale (AGAIN!), i think you will find that the new lonsdale "coach" wouldnt have many fans from his aldinga days, including myself!

the year he coached aldinga A grade, i actually left the club half way thru the year and returned to your beloved club ZC, and played out the year in red and black, just because i believe he wasnt a very good coach.

he may have changed, specially with a couple years under Ando, so hopefully for the lions, he has learnt a thing or two since the '04 season!


the year he coached aldinga A grade, i actually left the club half way thru the year and returned to your beloved club ZC, and played out the year in red and black, just because i believe he wasnt a very good coach.

Now there's an interesting comment if ever I have seen one. With what knowledge of coaching at that level did you base your decision on or what is made on a whim? Be great if every player thought like you! :roll:
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Re: who is coaching osb/lonsdale

Postby Backliner » Wed Dec 24, 2008 8:07 pm

At the end of the day i think Gaza, Cove and Blackwood have a lot more credibility than Aldinga and i mean no disrespect in saying that, but i am getting sick of you guys slagging us and having cheap digs. As the saying goes those who live in glass houses should not throw stones.[/quote]

Lionheart, have a look at what Coach04 had to say about Aldinga champ, then talk to me about cheap digs, I have been at Aldinga since 2002 and have yet to have 'cheap digs' at a past coach on here, i got on well with Patto until I came across posts such as these, very nice from a senior coach, merry XMAS, seeya round 2

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Re: who is coaching osb/lonsdale

Postby HH3 » Wed Dec 24, 2008 8:46 pm

If thats is Patto then I would love to see the look on his face if Aldinga knock Lonsdale off.
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Re: who is coaching osb/lonsdale

Postby Diesel02 » Wed Dec 24, 2008 8:55 pm

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Re: who is coaching osb/lonsdale

Postby a2m » Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:39 pm

I have never met the bloke but his record is 1 and 17 so far...
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Re: who is coaching osb/lonsdale

Postby the big bang » Thu Dec 25, 2008 7:37 am

Cockeyed Chook wrote:
the_big_bang wrote:
Zelezny Chucks wrote:Doesn't sound like you are a fan of the Lions new coach Foxy??



although i will probably get accused of being negative towards lonsdale (AGAIN!), i think you will find that the new lonsdale "coach" wouldnt have many fans from his aldinga days, including myself!

the year he coached aldinga A grade, i actually left the club half way thru the year and returned to your beloved club ZC, and played out the year in red and black, just because i believe he wasnt a very good coach.

he may have changed, specially with a couple years under Ando, so hopefully for the lions, he has learnt a thing or two since the '04 season!


the year he coached aldinga A grade, i actually left the club half way thru the year and returned to your beloved club ZC, and played out the year in red and black, just because i believe he wasnt a very good coach.

Now there's an interesting comment if ever I have seen one. With what knowledge of coaching at that level did you base your decision on or what is made on a whim? Be great if every player thought like you! :roll:



2 examples of why i didnt rate him as a coach....

1. he took "bubbles" garrard off the ball and replaced him with me in the middle. bubbles was easily our best midfielder, and at that stage, was rated pretty highly in the league as a pretty decent player. patto played him in a forward pocket, which back then, the ball wouldn't have entered our attacking 50 ten times a game.

2. i think this happened against reynella. he came and stood on the boundry line next to the coaches box, and said "i'm just having a look", for over 5 mins, just stood there. didnt take himself off and put someone on whilke he was "having a look".so effectivly made us play a man down. dunno what you think of this tactic, but i wasnt a fan of it, and i dont think it paid off. there was 3 players sitting on the bench that he could have put on for those few minutes, but chose not to. real clever.
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Re: who is coaching osb/lonsdale

Postby Bag The Points » Fri Dec 26, 2008 1:10 pm

Sounds to me like he could have been a bit tired :shock: We can only hope for the Lions' sake he has learnt a bit about coaching since then. The good news is that Ando's recommendation suggests he might have made the required improvement.
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Re: who is coaching osb/lonsdale

Postby the big bang » Fri Dec 26, 2008 1:29 pm

i'm pretty sure he would have improved a great deal in the last 4 years. hopefully the lions do good from him.
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Re: who is coaching osb/lonsdale

Postby rodney fox » Fri Dec 26, 2008 2:18 pm

Cock eyed chook I think if you play under someone you have the right of opinion on them, you do not have to be a level 3 superstar coach to hold an opinion.

We also understand that some coaches are not necessarily there to make friends as such but to get a job done. In my first year of coaching alot of calls were made for the team and not for myself. This is one thing that Patto never once sacrificed, he consistently started himself in the middle trying to run it out all day and as TBB pointed out he was very selfish with trying to do the changes from the field and not using any of the available help he did in fact have. To see stupid things like when MILO kicks a goal running into an open square and "the COACH" punches him in the back after he kicks it and gives away another free and another easy goal it is not a very good way to gain a reputation. So yes this is only one instance but believe me there were plenty and I have a very bad opinion of him, but in saying that it is my opinion and I do not rate him but no one either has to like my opinion one bit. But also in that I do hope for the Lions sake who I sincerely hope they do improve that Patto himself has learnt alot and is in fact better suited to help the Lions revive.

And Lion Heart people are not slinging crap on you guys as you always say, I have never read anything completely negative about your club only people being supportive and wishing you good luck apart from the light hearted stir ups I think you should chill out a bit. Good luck with Patto I look very very forward to playing against you guys in a great rivalry that already exists.
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Re: who is coaching osb/lonsdale

Postby rodney fox » Fri Dec 26, 2008 2:25 pm

plays tall wrote:rodney fox i havent met the new coach yet i think these players have come from senior players on the phone and the president chris who does a great job meet the coach day is january 11th i also heard they had 26 at training last week non compulsary organised by players. if matt can recruit a few more players would be good ,but how does this new points system work .we have a couple of players playing this year that didnt play last year aswell.


Thats good to hear mate and Chris does do alot around the club and is a good bloke. Numbers seem good then also so that's good to hear.

Your club should have a layout of the points system about what players are worth what and your A grade will be allocated 35 Points I think, each player is worth certain points according to how long they have played there, when they played there and where they are from.
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Re: who is coaching osb/lonsdale

Postby the big bang » Fri Dec 26, 2008 6:55 pm

so there ya go guys.

its been established, patto dosnt have many fans from his aldinga coaching days. i know you've only heard from me and RF, but i can garuntee you that theres not many other guys that respect him for his coaching ability down our way.

but as i said, hopefully he has learnt from his time under Ando and co., and can provide what lonsdale are looking for.
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