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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Sorry Dude » Fri Jan 09, 2009 2:43 pm

t express wrote:
hackham hawk wrote:
t express wrote:
The Mexican wrote:Just read on the GSFL website it appears Matty James is staying put and not returning to Reynella for season 2009... For discussions sake, and to get this site up and moving again here is my predicted ladder before finals -

Emus
Cobra's
Towns
Bombers
Valleys
Cocklies
Rams
Bushpigs
Twisties
Shoes
Sharks
Saints
Lions
Hawks
Wineflys

8) funny people ppfftttt!

and your ladder predicition would be what TE??

cobras
emus
reynella
towns
bombers
cockies
marion
valley
shoes
bushpigs
twisties
sharks
lions
saints
hawks
be one of the closest years i think its good too see! there will be about 6 teams trying to get the last two spots in the 8 come september,cobras fav without a doubt, time will tell, is that ok mr hawk!!

it doesnt bother me what you put on there. you were just quick to jump on the other ladder prediction.
i would pretty much agree except i think the sharks will finish a bit higher. but no one knows until around august. you are right it will be a very close year.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby The Mexican » Fri Jan 09, 2009 2:47 pm

t express wrote:
hackham hawk wrote:
t express wrote:
The Mexican wrote:Just read on the GSFL website it appears Matty James is staying put and not returning to Reynella for season 2009... For discussions sake, and to get this site up and moving again here is my predicted ladder before finals -

Emus
Cobra's
Towns
Bombers
Valleys
Cocklies
Rams
Bushpigs
Twisties
Shoes
Sharks
Saints
Lions
Hawks
Wineflys

8) funny people ppfftttt!

and your ladder predicition would be what TE??

cobras
emus
reynella
towns
bombers
cockies
marion
valley
shoes
bushpigs
twisties
sharks
lions
saints
hawks
be one of the closest years i think its good too see! there will be about 6 teams trying to get the last two spots in the 8 come september,cobras fav without a doubt, time will tell, is that ok mr hawk!!


So express you are saying that your A grade will improve slightly from last year..?? Who will be replacing your "outs"..?? So far it has been mentioned you have picked up a ruckman, prescott and panach, anyone else..?? There are the "Outs" to Edwardstown (4-5 i think) plus Butcher and Moore (latter being biggest loss of all)... Plus yourself becoming a regular in the mightly red and black (Westies, that is), wonder how you will take to the guernsey..!!
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Panther32 » Fri Jan 09, 2009 3:34 pm

There are at least 3 blokes who have played at Reynella (not last year) who are returning who look like very handy players. I won't mention their names as it it will become a slandering match, so you will just have to wait and see. From all reports Moore will definitely be a big loss which is disappointing, but i'm sure as most other clubs there are also plenty of blokes looking to step up to take his place.
I would think the overall league should pick up a fair bit with a number of talented youngsters no longer eligible to play at South and West, would that be true?
Oh and from my point of view Early has been nothing short of fantastic so far for the club and with his preseason, could not say a bad word about him! He definitely ranks in my top 3 coaches!!!
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby words of wisdom » Fri Jan 09, 2009 3:37 pm

Panther32 wrote:There are at least 3 blokes who have played at Reynella (not last year) who are returning who look like very handy players. I won't mention their names as it it will become a slandering match, so you will just have to wait and see. From all reports Moore will definitely be a big loss which is disappointing, but i'm sure as most other clubs there are also plenty of blokes looking to step up to take his place.
I would think the overall league should pick up a fair bit with a number of talented youngsters no longer eligible to play at South and West, would that be true?
Oh and from my point of view Early has been nothing short of fantastic so far for the club and with his preseason, could not say a bad word about him! He definitely ranks in my top 3 coaches!!!


I'd hate to be that one coach that missed out! :lol:
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Panther32 » Fri Jan 09, 2009 3:38 pm

words of wisdom wrote:
Panther32 wrote:There are at least 3 blokes who have played at Reynella (not last year) who are returning who look like very handy players. I won't mention their names as it it will become a slandering match, so you will just have to wait and see. From all reports Moore will definitely be a big loss which is disappointing, but i'm sure as most other clubs there are also plenty of blokes looking to step up to take his place.
I would think the overall league should pick up a fair bit with a number of talented youngsters no longer eligible to play at South and West, would that be true?
Oh and from my point of view Early has been nothing short of fantastic so far for the club and with his preseason, could not say a bad word about him! He definitely ranks in my top 3 coaches!!!


I'd hate to be that one coach that missed out! :lol:

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Re: Southern Football League

Postby GO THE PUNT » Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:24 pm

Let me just say I believe the comp will be alot closer this year. There is only 1 club that will be a sure thing for top 4 and thats cove. I think you will find that brighton, valleys, morphettvale and the flys are going to fall back to the middle clubs. This is a great thing. What I believe is going to happen is that the above 4 clubs plus the towns, porties, shoes, rams, flaggies and twisties are going to be close. I think the draw is going to play a big part this year and you may find that 1 of the former powers could be finishing at the end of the minor round. If this does happen then the draw has achieved what its meant to do and this is only going to improve the standard of the comp. Just my thoughts.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby SSS » Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:57 pm

GO THE PUNT wrote:Let me just say I believe the comp will be alot closer this year. There is only 1 club that will be a sure thing for top 4 and thats cove. I think you will find that brighton, valleys, morphettvale and the flys are going to fall back to the middle clubs. This is a great thing. What I believe is going to happen is that the above 4 clubs plus the towns, porties, shoes, rams, flaggies and twisties are going to be close. I think the draw is going to play a big part this year and you may find that 1 of the former powers could be finishing at the end of the minor round. If this does happen then the draw has achieved what its meant to do and this is only going to improve the standard of the comp. Just my thoughts.


I'm sorry GTP but just having a closer comp doesn't necessarily make it a better comp.

By having teams finish higher than they should means that you have inferior teams playing in the major round instead of the cream of the crop. This means that the team that shouldn't have been there if it wasn't for the rigged draw gets bundled out in a game that is hardly a showcase game for the SFL.

This concept is as bad as some of the bs that goes on in our education system. we should not encourage mediocrity.

All clubs should be encouraged to work their juniors and bring them thru to senior ranks as most of the top teams have done and build a strong club culture. This takes time and effort but is the only real way to attain sustained success. This way we could do away with ridiculous points systems etc.

Let's try to improve the standard of all clubs in the league and really improve the standard of the comp.

We should be looking to cull clubs that can't get their act together rather than penalising clubs that put the work into their juniors and run their club well.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby HH3 » Fri Jan 09, 2009 10:07 pm

SSS wrote:
GO THE PUNT wrote:Let me just say I believe the comp will be alot closer this year. There is only 1 club that will be a sure thing for top 4 and thats cove. I think you will find that brighton, valleys, morphettvale and the flys are going to fall back to the middle clubs. This is a great thing. What I believe is going to happen is that the above 4 clubs plus the towns, porties, shoes, rams, flaggies and twisties are going to be close. I think the draw is going to play a big part this year and you may find that 1 of the former powers could be finishing at the end of the minor round. If this does happen then the draw has achieved what its meant to do and this is only going to improve the standard of the comp. Just my thoughts.


I'm sorry GTP but just having a closer comp doesn't necessarily make it a better comp.

By having teams finish higher than they should means that you have inferior teams playing in the major round instead of the cream of the crop. This means that the team that shouldn't have been there if it wasn't for the rigged draw gets bundled out in a game that is hardly a showcase game for the SFL.

This concept is as bad as some of the bs that goes on in our education system. we should not encourage mediocrity.

All clubs should be encouraged to work their juniors and bring them thru to senior ranks as most of the top teams have done and build a strong club culture. This takes time and effort but is the only real way to attain sustained success. This way we could do away with ridiculous points systems etc.

Let's try to improve the standard of all clubs in the league and really improve the standard of the comp.

We should be looking to cull clubs that can't get their act together rather than penalising clubs that put the work into their juniors and run their club well.


This might be a silly question SSS but which clubs would you want to see "culled"?
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby SSS » Fri Jan 09, 2009 10:41 pm

This might be a silly question SSS but which clubs would you want to see "culled"?[/quote](hackham_hawk_3)

hh3 any club that, given a reasonable period of time, can't get their act together.

It's all about working hard and working smart.

Only 8 or so years ago Hackham had dual under 14 and 16 teams. The club started taking things for granted and stopped working and all bar disappeared up their own b_ms. To Hackham's credit you are now out there trying to rebuild. This is hard work and you will not get there overnight.

All that I'm trying to say is that clubs need to be encouraged to do things to enable them to attain sustained success. They shouldn't be told that it's OK to keep bumbling around and not strive harder and the league just rig the draw to try and give them unearned false rewards. This ultimately does struggling clubs no favours. Next year they are seen as one of the more successful clubs and have to play more games against the stronger clubs and they're back to square one.

Is there still a place for 2 divisions?
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby HH3 » Fri Jan 09, 2009 10:56 pm

SSS wrote:This might be a silly question SSS but which clubs would you want to see "culled"?
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hh3 any club that, given a reasonable period of time, can't get their act together.

It's all about working hard and working smart.

Only 8 or so years ago Hackham had dual under 14 and 16 teams. The club started taking things for granted and stopped working and all bar disappeared up their own b_ms. To Hackham's credit you are now out there trying to rebuild. This is hard work and you will not get there overnight.

All that I'm trying to say is that clubs need to be encouraged to do things to enable them to attain sustained success. They shouldn't be told that it's OK to keep bumbling around and not strive harder and the league just rig the draw to try and give them unearned false rewards. This ultimately does struggling clubs no favours. Next year they are seen as one of the more successful clubs and have to play more games against the stronger clubs and they're back to square one.

Is there still a place for 2 divisions?[/quote]

Why would we want certain teams to field 2 14's and 16's teams when some are scrapping for one. Not us. We have about a team and a half of 14's and more than a team for 16's. The A's and B's are both fielding teams with a fair few missing out all together now.

Everybody knows that when a team is struggling it takes a few years to rebuild...now think about how long the team needs when TWO teams are dropped all together and all players leave. The clubs on the rebound and we're under no illusions how long its gonna take.

And on the draw. We have more top teams than Aldinga and Lonsdale...obviously Aldinga were in the same boat as us but with the growth of the area theres gonna be a lot more talent around. Lonsdale, by there own omissions, made the finals 3 consecutive seasons leading into 2008 but still have less top teams in 09..so dont try and tell us that MORPHETT VALE have it tough because of the draw. So the top teams have to play the other top teams more. What would you rather spend the year playing us twice, Aldinga twice, Lonsdale twice? Stop your wingeing about nothing.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby BUZZ » Fri Jan 09, 2009 11:07 pm

Panther32 wrote:There are at least 3 blokes who have played at Reynella (not last year) who are returning who look like very handy players. I won't mention their names as it it will become a slandering match, so you will just have to wait and see. From all reports Moore will definitely be a big loss which is disappointing, but i'm sure as most other clubs there are also plenty of blokes looking to step up to take his place.
I would think the overall league should pick up a fair bit with a number of talented youngsters no longer eligible to play at South and West, would that be true?
Oh and from my point of view Early has been nothing short of fantastic so far for the club and with his preseason, could not say a bad word about him! He definitely ranks in my top 3 coaches!!!



We'll wait till you get dropped & see if you still rate him!
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby SSS » Fri Jan 09, 2009 11:34 pm

hackham_hawk_3 wrote:
SSS wrote:This might be a silly question SSS but which clubs would you want to see "culled"?
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hh3 any club that, given a reasonable period of time, can't get their act together.

It's all about working hard and working smart.

Only 8 or so years ago Hackham had dual under 14 and 16 teams. The club started taking things for granted and stopped working and all bar disappeared up their own b_ms. To Hackham's credit you are now out there trying to rebuild. This is hard work and you will not get there overnight.

All that I'm trying to say is that clubs need to be encouraged to do things to enable them to attain sustained success. They shouldn't be told that it's OK to keep bumbling around and not strive harder and the league just rig the draw to try and give them unearned false rewards. This ultimately does struggling clubs no favours. Next year they are seen as one of the more successful clubs and have to play more games against the stronger clubs and they're back to square one.

Is there still a place for 2 divisions?


Why would we want certain teams to field 2 14's and 16's teams when some are scrapping for one. Not us. We have about a team and a half of 14's and more than a team for 16's. The A's and B's are both fielding teams with a fair few missing out all together now.

Everybody knows that when a team is struggling it takes a few years to rebuild...now think about how long the team needs when TWO teams are dropped all together and all players leave. The clubs on the rebound and we're under no illusions how long its gonna take.

And on the draw. We have more top teams than Aldinga and Lonsdale...obviously Aldinga were in the same boat as us but with the growth of the area theres gonna be a lot more talent around. Lonsdale, by there own omissions, made the finals 3 consecutive seasons leading into 2008 but still have less top teams in 09..so dont try and tell us that MORPHETT VALE have it tough because of the draw. So the top teams have to play the other top teams more. What would you rather spend the year playing us twice, Aldinga twice, Lonsdale twice? Stop your wingeing about nothing.[/quote]

d_h_3 I'm not whingeing. I'm saying that a rigged draw isn't going to solve long term problems for you. You have to do that yourselves.

In regard to dual junior teams. Was it just a coincidence that Hackham A Grade was winning finals back when you had dual teams? Do you think that it is a coincidence that all of the top clubs have dual teams? I believe that you have dual teams amongst your minis so don't make any silly statements about not wanting dual teams.

Do you think that Lonsdale are a successful club? Does making the finals mean anything with this draw? Winning finals is what counts. That sort of success only comes to a club with vision and a plan and the resolve to work your b_ms off to achieve success. Do you think that they have a future without juniors?

Morphett Vale went for 23 years without an A Grade flag. They were looking down the barrel at relegation 2000. They weren't doing things right. They were happy to pick up a junior flag every year or two. They had to change the way that they did things. There was much pain. There were many changes made. There was much hard work done. There was no help given by a rigged draw. Once again, you have to make things happen yourself.

Reynella have not won an A Grade flag since 1977. People bitch about them being successful. I don't call that successful.
Reynella don't see that as successful. They see the need for change and have taken steps to make those changes. Those changes won't be easy. Changing the culture of a football club is very very hard. David Earl, Dave Murdock and Committee are spending a lot of time and are working their ringers off to improve the club. This is the attitude needed by all clubs to attain and then to sustain success. Bitching and whingeing rarely changes much.

Denis Ker is a good man. Your President appears to be on the right track. Don't bitch. Put your shoulder to the wheel next to these blokes and help work your way to success.

Just in case you didn't know Morphett Vale FC were instrumental in helping to set up the Hackham Football Club. We erected your first set of goal posts and helped to run fundraisers etc etc. So don't get your knickers in a knot and think that MVFC and world are against you.

I wish you all of the success that you earn. Good luck.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby hereforthebeer » Fri Jan 09, 2009 11:39 pm

Panther32 wrote:
words of wisdom wrote:
Panther32 wrote:There are at least 3 blokes who have played at Reynella (not last year) who are returning who look like very handy players. I won't mention their names as it it will become a slandering match, so you will just have to wait and see. From all reports Moore will definitely be a big loss which is disappointing, but i'm sure as most other clubs there are also plenty of blokes looking to step up to take his place.
I would think the overall league should pick up a fair bit with a number of talented youngsters no longer eligible to play at South and West, would that be true?
Oh and from my point of view Early has been nothing short of fantastic so far for the club and with his preseason, could not say a bad word about him! He definitely ranks in my top 3 coaches!!!


I'd hate to be that one coach that missed out! :lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol:


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Re: Southern Football League

Postby HH3 » Fri Jan 09, 2009 11:54 pm

If you did actually wish us luck, why make a stupid comment about culling clubs...since we're obviously at the bottom of the pack at the moment that would mean us. So Morphett Vale (suppossedly helped us) even tho we started playing home games in aldinga...and your the one wingeing about a rigged draw...unless you play Cove and Brighton 9 times each how can the 2nd best team (MV) have a rigged draw? you play everybody once...and teams closest matched to you twice...thats all im saying...
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Esteban Vihaio » Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:14 am

Perhaps I'm cynical, but I can't see the league adopting any measures to help the struggling clubs apart from the current draw. To many diverging interests come voting time.

There are very very few leagues or divisions with over ten teams, probably for the two reasons which affect the SFL, lack of parity and unevenness of the draw. In fact, if I don't think there is more than one league in country SA with over 6 teams.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby LaughingKookaburra » Sat Jan 10, 2009 11:15 am

quote="The Mexican"]Just read on the GSFL website it appears Matty James is staying put and not returning to Reynella for season 2009... For discussions sake, and to get this site up and moving again here is my predicted ladder before finals -

Emus
Cobra's
Towns
Bombers
Valleys
Cocklies
Rams
Bushpigs
Twisties
Shoes
Sharks
Saints
Lions
Hawks
Wineflys[/quote]
8) funny people ppfftttt![/quote]
and your ladder predicition would be what TE??[/quote]
cobras
emus
reynella
towns
bombers
cockies
marion
valley
shoes
bushpigs
twisties
sharks
lions
saints
hawks
be one of the closest years i think its good too see! there will be about 6 teams trying to get the last two spots in the 8 come september,cobras fav without a doubt, time will tell, is that ok mr hawk!![/quote]
Your right, it WILL be a close year considering most havent started/resumed training and it's 13 weeks till round 1 and no 1 really knows who is playing for them and who is not. Closest it's been in years ;)
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby AFLflyer » Sat Jan 10, 2009 1:10 pm

it wouldn't surprise me if an EMU took the flies to that low! :shock:[/quote]

So he has your full support then Flyer..?? GREAT to hear..!![/quote]

your are the one that picked the fly's last moron. it was a friendly stab at you and the Emu's only! Haven't met Earl , but by all reports he's done a cracking job thus far!
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Insider » Sat Jan 10, 2009 1:25 pm

Panther32 wrote:There are at least 3 blokes who have played at Reynella (not last year) who are returning who look like very handy players. I won't mention their names as it it will become a slandering match, so you will just have to wait and see. From all reports Moore will definitely be a big loss which is disappointing, but i'm sure as most other clubs there are also plenty of blokes looking to step up to take his place.
I would think the overall league should pick up a fair bit with a number of talented youngsters no longer eligible to play at South and West, would that be true?
Oh and from my point of view Early has been nothing short of fantastic so far for the club and with his preseason, could not say a bad word about him! He definitely ranks in my top 3 coaches!!!



Hey P32 that would be a long list of coaches wouldnt it? How many u had in the last 4 years?
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby SSS » Sat Jan 10, 2009 3:03 pm

hackham_hawk_3 wrote:If you did actually wish us luck, why make a stupid comment about culling clubs...since we're obviously at the bottom of the pack at the moment that would mean us. So Morphett Vale (suppossedly helped us) even tho we started playing home games in aldinga...and your the one wingeing about a rigged draw...unless you play Cove and Brighton 9 times each how can the 2nd best team (MV) have a rigged draw? you play everybody once...and teams closest matched to you twice...thats all im saying...


d_h_3 things go in cycles. We've all been around the bottom at some stage.

The biggest thing holding clubs such as yours back is people with attitudes like you. You will never develop a winning mind set because you're always concentrating on blaming someone or something else for your ineptitude.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby LaughingKookaburra » Sat Jan 10, 2009 3:32 pm

I remember playing in winning senior sides agains Morphett Vale, Reynella and so on in my time at Hackham. The memories \:D/
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