South Australian Churches and Community Cricket Association

[Pidge]

I think you are on the money for once pidge, the association desperately needs some new faces and ideas added into the fold.

Nothing will ever change in this Assosiation while the old fuddy duddys are running it. We should be trying to promote the youth but once again they have let us down.

To be fair, if no one puts up their hand to go on the executive committee what choice have they got?
They put out a questionnaire to all clubs, and one of the outcomes was more one day games, so they do listen. Maybe except Sat/Sun finals.

The problem people forget is the assoc fought hard for a long while with the u/21's concept and continually found themselves beating their head against walls, fielding sub-standard sides that simply served to crush confidence and disgrace the assoc.

No player was willing to put their hand up, some issue with the senior side. The fact Pidge is keen is a wonderful attribute, just need more people with the same passion.

Easy to sit back and criticise the efforts of the commitee, harder to step up and make a difference. Tough job.

I am always keen for an extra game of Cricket. I believe that we would have no problems fielding a side next matchday.

[Pidge]

Pidge is going to be fired up.

Hope so, think he is down a little after after Chelsea were thumped by the Champions of England, Champions of Europe, Champions of the world.

doesnt take much to fire pidge up......take a lolly from his bag and see what happens.

BB there is one main thing that will fire me up. Hopefully it is standing at the other end of the pitch on the 31st When I bowl.

[Pidge]

Well Churches have told ASCA that there will be no u/21 game against you guys as part of the CUSA cup.

Churches need to lift their game IMO.

Don't worry about U/21 Pidge, try out for the seniors and see how you go.

Sorry but im not good enough. Plus isnt training all the way down south somewhere? It would cost too much in petrol to get there and back. Why cant they have it somewhere central like Para Vista or something?

[silent hour]

I think you are on the money for once pidge, the association desperately needs some new faces and ideas added into the fold.

Nothing will ever change in this Assosiation while the old fuddy duddys are running it. We should be trying to promote the youth but once again they have let us down.

To be fair, if no one puts up their hand to go on the executive committee what choice have they got?
They put out a questionnaire to all clubs, and one of the outcomes was more one day games, so they do listen. Maybe except Sat/Sun finals.

The problem people forget is the assoc fought hard for a long while with the u/21's concept and continually found themselves beating their head against walls, fielding sub-standard sides that simply served to crush confidence and disgrace the assoc.

No player was willing to put their hand up, some issue with the senior side. The fact Pidge is keen is a wonderful attribute, just need more people with the same passion.

Easy to sit back and criticise the efforts of the commitee, harder to step up and make a difference. Tough job.

Have to agree with this statement, I have seen it plenty of times not just in cricket but other sports where a lot of criticising happens but no action (from the critics) when the time comes to do something.

[bored]

Sorry but im not good enough. Plus isnt training all the way down south somewhere? It would cost too much in petrol to get there and back. Why cant they have it somewhere central like Para Vista or something?

Practice for the CUSA cup / Carnival was held at vistas practice venue for a few weeks while we tried to find turf nets. The turf nets we used were at Flinders Park so probably more central than Vista.

Pidge, dont worry about whether your good enough. Surely getting bowling experience against some of the best batters from the Churches league and having coaching from Wino and Scooter would be beneficial for you no matter whether you get into the team or not?

[bloodybouncer]

Personally i cannot understand why they do not play sat/sun finals. I remember in the old Independent Central days we even played sat/sun games during the minor round on several occasions during the season.

When i played in the SCA it was the same, 2 minor round Sat/Sun games and finals Sat/Sun. I think it just tidys the seasons up bit more, also gives chance to avoid heat wave and NR like last seasons GF (which im sure Fitzroy are still rueing)

rueing is far too generous. The teams thats didnt get to contest the GF are after someones blood. Have a chat to the NEK boys too and they will tell you all about it. Nevermind the fact it was an extraordinary heat wave.....

The rules, as they were, meant the game could not be awarded to anyone, and the team finishing higher had no right to be awarded the premiership. This is fact, as interpreted by the rules as they were written. The intent of the rules involved, as explained by the exec, was different to what was written. Absolultely not good enough. Spend more time getting the rules to reflect your intent. I had provided proposed changes....dunno if they were incorporated this year.

dont push my button phantom......you will make me draw blood real soon

[Mythbuster]

Could you guys help me with something? In every game this year, our captain has gotten into arguments on the field regarding the "wide and dead" rule... Can anyone explain it to me? If the ball is wide and deviates, can the batsmen take extra runs or not? I suppose airing it on a forum like this might help everyone...

Just interested... some of us aren't A-Graders who can't land it on the pitch every ball...

Typewriter, this rule is a pet hate of mine also. I have always called a wide, then dead ball in this situation. This means that there is 1 wide given, then the ball is dead, which means the batsmen can not claim any more runs, even if the ball crosses the boundary.

Ive always used this until recently when an association umpire claiming to "know the rules" called it dead only, no wide and no run, which in my opinion is wrong.

[CoverKing]

Could you guys help me with something? In every game this year, our captain has gotten into arguments on the field regarding the "wide and dead" rule... Can anyone explain it to me? If the ball is wide and deviates, can the batsmen take extra runs or not? I suppose airing it on a forum like this might help everyone...

Just interested... some of us aren't A-Graders who can't land it on the pitch every ball...

Typewriter, this rule is a pet hate of mine also. I have always called a wide, then dead ball in this situation. This means that there is 1 wide given, then the ball is dead, which means the batsmen can not claim any more runs, even if the ball crosses the boundary.

Ive always used this until recently when an association umpire claiming to "know the rules" called it dead only, no wide and no run, which in my opinion is wrong.

mythbuster u are spot on! obviously it is still classified as a wide because it has not hit and stayed on the pitch!!
and it is a dead ball once the ball deviates! so if the ball hits the edge of the pitch and deviates, it is to be called a wide-dead ball. 1 run added to the score and the ball to be re-bowled! Simple...

[Pidge]

Sorry but im not good enough. Plus isnt training all the way down south somewhere? It would cost too much in petrol to get there and back. Why cant they have it somewhere central like Para Vista or something?

Practice for the CUSA cup / Carnival was held at vistas practice venue for a few weeks while we tried to find turf nets. The turf nets we used were at Flinders Park so probably more central than Vista.

Pidge, dont worry about whether your good enough. Surely getting bowling experience against some of the best batters from the Churches league and having coaching from Wino and Scooter would be beneficial for you no matter whether you get into the team or not?

Are all games played on turf or hard-wicket?

[CoverKing]

it would have been good to see the 21s play ASCA but now the 21 boys will get to sit back and watch the seniors with some 'cans' in hand...good day it should be, how is the churches seniors looking??

[bored]

Sorry but im not good enough. Plus isnt training all the way down south somewhere? It would cost too much in petrol to get there and back. Why cant they have it somewhere central like Para Vista or something?

Practice for the CUSA cup / Carnival was held at vistas practice venue for a few weeks while we tried to find turf nets. The turf nets we used were at Flinders Park so probably more central than Vista.

Pidge, dont worry about whether your good enough. Surely getting bowling experience against some of the best batters from the Churches league and having coaching from Wino and Scooter would be beneficial for you no matter whether you get into the team or not?

Are all games played on turf or hard-wicket?

not sure what the next one will be. Both the CUSA cup games have been on turf so far and all the carnival games were on turf.

I havent heard when / where the practices are for the last CUSA cup game yet. Wheres that bloody goat herder when you need him!

[Pidge]

it would have been good to see the 21s play ASCA but now the 21 boys will get to sit back and watch the seniors with some 'cans' in hand...good day it should be, how is the churches seniors looking??

It would have been great to play.

[auto]

Just interested... some of us aren't A-Graders who can't land it on the pitch every ball...

Some of us are A graders and still cant land it on the pitch!

[Goat Herder]

i hear that this gigs fella is off the long run too....

do you know how his back pulled up BB? is he going to try out for the final Cusa cup game?

BBs back is still a niggle from what i hear...nothing a few panadeine forte and anti inflamatories cant deal with short term. When is the CUSA cup game, i reckon gigs would be fairly keen ....back permitting of course

I think Gigs needs to just HTFU...

[The Hound]

Could you guys help me with something? In every game this year, our captain has gotten into arguments on the field regarding the "wide and dead" rule... Can anyone explain it to me? If the ball is wide and deviates, can the batsmen take extra runs or not? I suppose airing it on a forum like this might help everyone...

Just interested... some of us aren't A-Graders who can't land it on the pitch every ball...

Typewriter, this rule is a pet hate of mine also. I have always called a wide, then dead ball in this situation. This means that there is 1 wide given, then the ball is dead, which means the batsmen can not claim any more runs, even if the ball crosses the boundary.

Ive always used this until recently when an association umpire claiming to "know the rules" called it dead only, no wide and no run, which in my opinion is wrong.

If the ball doesn't hit the pitch and then deviates into the stumps is it a wide or dead ball?? If it is a dead ball the batsman can't be given out. I think the umpire is correct on this one as in one instance your are saying that the batting side can get a run because it has deviated and gone through to the slips and in the next instance you are saying batsman can't get out because it hits the stumps. A dead ball in my book.

[Pidge]

i hear that this gigs fella is off the long run too....

do you know how his back pulled up BB? is he going to try out for the final Cusa cup game?

BBs back is still a niggle from what i hear...nothing a few panadeine forte and anti inflamatories cant deal with short term. When is the CUSA cup game, i reckon gigs would be fairly keen ....back permitting of course

I think Gigs needs to just HTFU...

I agree with that. Soft as.

[Ted]

Feb. 1 clash against Adelaide & Suburban at Mitchell Park on Hard wicket.

1 win away, a bit of luck then off to Adelade oval

make sure your there BB

[Goat Herder]

Well Churches have told ASCA that there will be no u/21 game against you guys as part of the CUSA cup.

Churches need to lift their game IMO.

Don't worry about U/21 Pidge, try out for the seniors and see how you go.

Sorry but im not good enough. Plus isnt training all the way down south somewhere? It would cost too much in petrol to get there and back. Why cant they have it somewhere central like Para Vista or something?

I don't know where you get your information from regarding the location of training..?!?? Trainings leading up to the Nationals were initially held at Para Vista's training facility and then on turf at Flinders Park CC for the 6-7wks prior to flying out.

Yes, the next CUSA round is on 1/2. I don't think there will be an U21 side from Churches. Have you managed to drum up any other support/teammates Pidge?? Personally, I think we should be trying to refocus on U21 next year and if there is no support for it (as has been in recent times; eg: last year), then the Association is fully vindicated in their decision not to field an U21 side. Can't field a team if it doesn't exist.

As for training leading up to the last CUSA round against ASCA, we hope to finalise things by the ed of the week. Training is open to EVERYONE - including ALL Fitzroy players, contrary to previous uninformed opinions - so please take this back to your Clubs. More information will be available for the next delegate's meeting I guess, whenever that will be. I'd say there'll be 2 trainings prior to the match, so that means training will staert next week. Don't think you're not good enough Pidge. At the end of the day, it's not all about making the final 12. If you do, that's fantastic, if not, well let's just have a look at ya and maybe give you a few things to work on to take you to the next level.

What we want to see is blokes passionate about representing the Association and keen to improve themselves as cricketers. Ability and CHARACTER is what the final selection will be based on, and rest assured that the final side will be the best that we can put on the park from the players who best display those 2 attributes. The CUSA Cup is NOT about everyone who turns up to training getting a game in at least 1 of the matches, as some people would like to think is the case. Our representative side will be the best representation of the players who make themselves available, end of story. We have put some pretty ordinary sides on the park in the past and it's not good enough. I think it's great that more players have embraced the representative side of our Association. Just speak to the boys who toured in Melbourne about the experience and their passion for what they did. It's infectious..

And who knows, if Para Districts beat Adel Turf and CCC&A beat ASCA, there's a slim chance that CCC&A could play the final against SA Country on Adelaide Oval. Now, how SICK would that be?!?? Fully sick maaaate!

Watch this space chaps..

[Goat Herder]

Wheres that bloody goat herder when you need him!

Away doing some hard-earnt bloody fishing, Mr Bored! Geez, anyone would think we get paid for this stuff..

And for the record Mr 'Bouncer, bagged out on big reds yesterday morning at 'Hughes before dawn, biggest fish 11kgs.. Didn't even get a chance to give the 'plastics a crack..

[bored]

Wheres that bloody goat herder when you need him!

Away doing some hard-earnt bloody fishing, Mr Bored! Geez, anyone would think we get paid for this stuff..

And for the record Mr 'Bouncer, bagged out on big reds yesterday morning at 'Hughes before dawn, biggest fish 11kgs..

speak of the devil and he shall appear! bout time you got out on the water again mate

Pidge, BB... we going to see you out at training once its announced????