This weeks Papertalk Thread Season 2008/9

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Re: This weeks Papertalk Thread Season 2008/9

Postby smithy » Thu Jan 15, 2009 11:50 pm

johntheclaret wrote:btw: you can always rely on the Sun to talk bollocks.

City 175m offer for Kaka. where do they get these stories from.


Was watching setanta news JTC and they were confused by that as well considering all the other papers were quoting £100m, but the s*n in their traditional reporting style bumped it up and added in the £75m that he would receive in wages if the reports are correct.
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Re: This weeks Papertalk Thread Season 2008/9

Postby johntheclaret » Sat Jan 17, 2009 7:50 am

I'm hearing anything from £15m a year to £25m a year to £25m for 5 years smithy.

sun and pinch of salt come to mind :lol:
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Re: This weeks Papertalk Thread Season 2008/9

Postby johntheclaret » Sat Jan 17, 2009 9:41 am

Here's todays chatter

MIRROR
Real Madrid will move for Jermaine Pennant on a short-term deal from Liverpool - before replacing him with Cristiano Ronaldo in the summer.

Milan are "considering" a "colossal" £108million bid from Man City for Kaka.

Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger is set to make a £12million bid for West Ham defender Matthew Upson, with Nicklas Bendtner going in the opposite direction.

Aston Villa are set to make a £14million bid for Tottenham striker Darren Bent.

Reading will let Stephen Hunt join Tottenham for £5million.

Blackburn have been told it will cost them £9million to land Red Bull Salzburg striker Marc Janko.

Italian giants Lazio are lining up a £3.6million move for Rangers striker Kris Boyd.

Crystal Palace are chasing Sheffield United striker Danny Webber.

Fulham boss Roy Hodgson is targeting Nurnberg's Greek striker Angelos Charisteas.

THE SUN
Kaka has given the green light to Manchester City after the club increased their offer to a phenomenal £243million.

Tottenham boss Harry Redknapp has won the race for Wigan's Wilson Palacios following a £14million bid.

Cesc Fabregas has warned moneybags Manchester City: 'Spending £100milion on Kaka will guarantee you nothing'.

Man City boss Mark Hughes insists he is driving the stunning bid to lure Kaka to Eastlands.

Spurs are set to make an improved £16million offer for Sunderland strike star Kenwyne Jones.

Hull have signed Kevin Kilbane from Wigan and Espanyol defender Steve Finnan could follow.

Norwich have lost out in a bid to get Nigel Worthington back as manager.

Jermaine Pennant has snubbed AC Milan by agreeing to join former Arsenal team-mate Tony Adams at Portsmouth.

Luis Boa Morte wants to stay at West Ham after snubbing a £1.5m move to Hull.

Republic of Ireland winger Stephen Hunt has been told he can quit Reading if Spurs boss Harry Redknapp bids £5million.

Stoke midfielder Tom Soares has gone to Championship side Charlton on loan for a month.

Nancy striker Marc-Antoine Fortune is set for his West Brom debut against Middlesbrough after signing on loan for the rest of the season.

DAILY EXPRESS
Kaka will tell Manchester City to shelve their interest in him until the summer.

Man City boss Mark Hughes warned he will pull the plug on deals for Roque Santa Cruz and Craig Bellamy if Blackburn and West Ham do not lower their valuations.

Blackburn are being linked with Salzburg striker Marc Janko, who has scored 30 goals in only 20 games this season.

Benfica striker Ariza Makukula is set to join Bolton on loan.

West Brom boss Tony Mowbray is pessimistic about landing Paris St Germain striker Peguy Luyindula.

Tottenham are set to offer Darren Bent to Sunderland as bait in their bid to sign Kenwyne Jones.

DAILY MAIL
AC Milan paved the way for Kaka to join Manchester City by giving him permission to speak to the club.

Tottenham manager Harry Redknapp was last night locked in talks with Craig Bellamy after West Ham accepted a £12million package for the Wales striker.

Steve Finnan's move to Hull City fell through last night after a medical revealed a deep-seated problem with his left thigh.

Newcastle have been warned off Lucas Neill after West Ham said he was not for sale.

Espanyol say goalkeeper Carlos Kameni has a deal in place to join Manchester City.

DAILY STAR
Kaka is set to tell Manchester City he will sign for them - but not until the summer.

Robinho has revealed Man City have been planning their shock move for Kaka since last summer.

Chelsea are planning to steal Carlos Tevez away from rivals Manchester United at the end of the season.

Former Liverpool midfielder Darren Potter, 24, has joined Sheffield Wednesday on loan from Wolves.

DAILY RECORD
Hearts have informed clubs of winger Andrew Driver's availability - a move that will alert the Old Firm and teams in England.
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Re: This weeks Papertalk Thread Season 2008/9

Postby johntheclaret » Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:37 am

20th Jan

DAILY MIRROR
Kaka has snubbed the chance to join Manchester City in a world record £108million move.

Joe Kinnear has admitted he could walk away from Newcastle in the summer.

Manchester City boss Mark Hughes will offer £15million for Roque Santa Cruz.

Carlton Cole has shrugged off Craig Bellamy’s £12million move to Manchester City.

Didier Drogba will be recalled from exile at Chelsea today.

William Gallas has hinted he could run down his contract at Arsenal.

Chelsea are weighing up a £7million move for Antonio Valencia.

Aston Villa may use Nicky Shorey as bait for Everton’s Leighton Baines.

Wigan, West Brom and Hull are locked in a three-way battle for Danny N’Guessan.

Sheffield United want to sign Manchester City’s Ched Evans for £1million.

Blackburn boss Sam Allardyce is under pressure from Benfica to give them an answer on Marco Zoro, who has been on trial at Ewood.

West Ham manager Gianfranco Zola has targeted Inter Milan striker Mario Balotelli.

Reading boss Steve Coppell has swooped to sign Jay Tabb.

Huddersfield are ready to beat Leeds to the signing of Liam Dickinson.

Gillingham hope to sign Charlton striker Chris Dickson.

Colin Calderwood has joined Newcastle’s coaching staff.

THE SUN
Kaka has rejected a world-record move to Manchester City, admitting: “I did what my heart told me to do.”

Luiz Felipe Scolari will discover today how much Chelsea are willing to back him as he meets club officials to discuss a replacement for the injured Joe Cole.

Shay Given is finally on his way out of Newcastle because of their cash crisis.

Andrei Arshavin is set to complete a £12million move to Arsenal inside 48 hours.

Geremi is demanding Newcastle allow him to join Besiktas.

Blackburn boss Sam Allardyce wants to link up with Abdoulaye Faye again.

Fiorentina strike ace Pablo Daniel Osvaldo is on the verge of joining West Ham.

Portsmouth are after Juventus midfielder Christian Poulsen.

Sheffield United have had a £400,000 bid for Jamie Ward accepted.

Lawrie Sanchez is favourite to become Leyton Orient manager.

Watford have warned more players will leave this month.

Colin Calderwood has joined the Newcastle coaching staff.

Coventry are poised to land Dutch defender Quido Lanzaat.

Nottingham Forest are ready to sign Blackburn’s Mark Bunn.

Charlton striker Chris Dickson is set to sign for Leyton Orient.

DAILY STAR
Manchester City’s world-record bid for Kaka has collapsed.

Tottenham boss Harry Redknapp is ready to make another cash-plus-player offer for Sunderland striker Kenwyne Jones – but Ricky Sbragia isn’t interested.

Newcastle could be forced to cash in on Shay Given.

Carlton Cole insists West Ham won’t lose sleep over Craig Bellamy’s departure.

Walsall are expected to name their new manager this morning.

Colin Calderwood is to join Newcastle’s coaching staff.

Jamie Ward has agreed to join Sheffield United from Chesterfield.

Nottingham Forest boss Billy Davies wants Blackburn goalkeeper Mark Bunn.

DAILY MAIL
Manchester City are facing a crisis after Brazilian superstar Kaka’s proposed £100million transfer from AC Milan collapsed and star striker Robinho walked out of their training camp in Tenerife, alerting Barclays Premier League rivals Chelsea.

Martin Jol is interested in taking Tottenham midfielder Tom Huddlestone to Hamburg as a replacement for the Manchester City-bound Nigel de Jong.

Newcastle may risk the wrath of West Ham with a £2million bid for Lucas Neill.

Didier Drogba’s spell in exile is set to end with a recall for Chelsea’s FA Cup fourth-round tie with Ipswich this weekend.

William Gallas has indicated he will see out his contract at Arsenal.

Jermaine Pennant is due to hold further talks with Portsmouth today.

Fulham boss Roy Hodgson watched Leeds midfielder Fabian Delph on Saturday.

Reading have spent £750,000 on Coventry midfielder Jay Tabb.

Birmingham have made an enquiry about Manchester City defender Nedum Onuoha.

Manchester United are lining up a bid for 16-year-old French ace Yven Moyo.

DAILY EXPRESS
Kaka’s proposed world-record transfer to Manchester City has collapsed amid controversy and acrimony.

Arsenal are prepared to finance their bid for Andrei Arshavin by selling Nicklas Bendtner.

Blackburn boss Sam Allardyce has put a £40million price tag on Roque Santa Cruz.

Hull have abandoned their bid for Steve Finnan. Colin Calderwood has agreed to join the Newcastle coaching staff.

Crystal Palace are willing to listen to offers for Ben Watson.

Gillingham hope to sign Chris Dickson from Charlton.

THE GUARDIAN
Manchester City made a hasty retreat from their world record attempt to sign Kaka last night when the Brazil international informed Milan he had no interest in swapping San Siro for Eastlands.

Joe Kinnear has warned Mike Ashley that Newcastle United are in real peril of relegation and appears prepared to walk away from the increasingly troubled club this summer.

THE TIMES
Manchester City's attempt to complete a world-record £103 million deal for Kaka ended in bitter disappointment last night when the Brazil forward decided to stay at AC Milan.

Luiz Felipe Scolari, the Chelsea manager, will make a third request in as many weeks for funds to strengthen his squad during a series of meetings today and hopes finally to get the money he wants after having his resources stretched by injury.

DAILY TELEGRAPH
Manchester City's new billionaire owners were dealt a huge blow on Monday night when Kaka, the Brazil and AC Milan forward, rejected a record-breaking £107 million transfer to Eastlands.

Portuguese winger Nani's long-term future at Manchester United could be cast into doubt if Sir Alex Ferguson proceeds with a bid for Wigan's Antonio Valencia.

THE INDEPENDENT
Manchester City's audacious pursuit of Kaka is over after both clubs revealed last night that discussions on the prospective £91m deal had been terminated.

Tottenham Hotspur will close the deal today for Wilson Palacios after the Wigan midfielder travelled to London last night.

West Ham United are closing in on a record £10million fee to sign Brescia's German striker Savio Nsereko as they move quickly to bolster their squad following the departure yesterday of Craig Bellamy to Manchester City for £14million, with the club vowing never to sell one of their leading players to Tottenham Hotspur ever again.

DAILY RECORD
Aberdeen boss Jimmy Calderwood has been sounded out over a return to Holland to manage FC Utrecht.

St Johnstone have issued a hands-off warning to Inverness over Derek McInnes.

The sacked Craig Brewster has been accused of training Inverness players so hard they were too tired to win matches.

Hearts are hoping to land Janos Balogh on a £100,000 deal today.

Falkirk hope to complete the signing of Dani Mallo this week.

Hamilton boss Billy Reid made it third time lucky by signing Kenny Deuchar.

Danny Invincibile has signed a new deal with Kilmarnock until 2011.
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Re: This weeks Papertalk Thread Season 2008/9

Postby johntheclaret » Sat Jan 31, 2009 10:36 am

Here's Friday 30th.

DAILY EXPRESS:
Robin van Persie wants guarantees that Arsenal will match his ambition before he commits his future to the club.

Tottenham will offer £10million and Darren Bent to try and tempt Blackburn to sell Roque Santa Cruz.

Spurs boss Harry Redknapp is still keen on Robbie Keane, Stephen Hunt and Stewart Downing.

DAILY MAIL:
Premier League clubs are ready to discuss closing the transfer window for good - a dramatic move that could put England's elite on a collision course with FIFA and UEFA.

Shay Given submitted a written transfer request to Newcastle last night as manager Joe Kinnear was left reeling by a parting shot from Charles N'Zogbia who looks set to join Wigan.

Roy Hodgson made a personal trip to check on Cardiff's Joe Ledley this week amid fears that Fabian Delph will not be allowed to leave Leeds until the summer.

Portsmouth boss Tony Adams is set to step up his attempts to bring Manchester City striker Benjani back to Fratton Park after scrapping plans to sign Real Madrid star Javier Saviola on loan over the Argentinian's fitness.

Manchester City have made a renewed £12million bid for Arsenal's Kolo Toure.

Blackburn manager Sam Allardyce made a £2.8m move for Sunderland striker El-Hadji Diouf last night.

Reading midfielder James Harper will travel to Middlesbrough today for final talks and a medical in an attempt to tie up a £5million deal.

THE SUN:
Furious Liverpool are reporting Tottenham because they feel they have tried to tap up Robbie Keane.

Charles N'Zogbia says he will never play for Joe Kinnear again after being insulted on TV by the Newcastle boss.

David Beckham has been dramatically linked to to a possible buyout of Leyton Orient.

Beckham is locked in crunch talks with his agents over a possible permanent move to AC Milan.

Kevin Nolan will complete his £4.5million switch to crisis club Newcastle on Friday.

Michael Ball found out his Manchester City deal would not be renewed just days after he underwent knee surgery.

Blackburn have knocked back another bid from Manchester City for star striker Roque Santa Cruz.

Sam Allardyce hopes to be reunited with former Bolton star El-Hadji Diouf today.

DAILY STAR:
Manchester City have been warned Shay Given's move to the Eastlands will collapse if they don't pay Newcastle what he's worth.

Newcastle are closing in on their first major signing of the transfer window after agreeing a £4.5million fee with Bolton for midfielder Kevin Nolan.

Joe Kinnear insists Newcastle's move for defender Albin Ebondo is on - despite Toulouse claiming they don't want to sell.

Blackburn boss Sam Allardyce insists Roque Santa Cruz is staying at Ewood Park.

Fulham boss Roy Hodgson has completed a shock loan deal for Derby star Giles Barnes.

Leicester have launched a £250,000 bid to sign Hull defender Wayne Brown.

Reading have taken Ipswich left-back Dan Harding on loan for the rest of the season.

Coventry's Malta striker Michael Mifsud could join Championship strugglers Barnsley in a £300,000 move.

Doncaster have completed the signing of Bristol City strikerr Steve Brooker in a £150,000 deal.

Swansea are set to smash their club transfer record with a £500,000 bid to buy Southampton's Nathan Dyer.

Blackpool have signed Manchester City midfielder Paul Marshall on loan.

Portsmouth have signed Pakistan international midfielder Adnan Ahmed on loan from Tranmere for a month.

Cardiff are set to complete the signing of Motherwell striker Chris Porter for £400,000.

Brighton aim to complete a double swoop for Leeds midfielder Neil Kilkenny and Oldham striker Craig Davies.

Bristol City are giving a trial to Peruvian midfielder Roberto Merino.

DAILY MIRROR:
Blackburn boss Sam Allardyce is eyeing Peter Crouch as a replacement for Roque Santa Cruz.

Shay Given has handed in a transfer request to Newcastle.

Manchester City will make one last bid for Kolo Toure - clearing the way for Arsenal to try and sign Michael Richards.

Newcastle are trying to offload Damien Duff and sign Derby's Kris Commons.

Roy Hodgson wants to bring Derby's Giles Barnes to Fulham on loan with a view to a permanent move.

Wolves are set to sign West Ham's Calum Davenport for £3million.

Blackburn are making a £2.5million move for Sunderland's El-Hadji Diouf.

THE TIMES:
Chelsea and Manchester City will join Real Madrid in the scramble for the services of Carlos Tevez if the Manchester United forward prices himself out of a long-term contract at Old Trafford.

THE GUARDIAN:
Manchester City have made one last attempt to persuade Blackburn Rovers to sell Roque Santa Cruz by submitting an improved £18.5million bid for the Paraguayan striker last night.

DAILY RECORD:
Celtic's move for West Brom full-back Marek Cech has collapsed.

Willo Flood edged closer to his move to Celtic yesterday after undergoing a medical. He should put pen to paper at Parkhead today.
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Re: This weeks Papertalk Thread Season 2008/9

Postby devilsadvocate » Sat Jan 31, 2009 4:32 pm

Becks to buy the O's!!! WOW!!! That's unreal. Question is, will he ever play for them?

I like the Santa Cruz rumor - beats the pants off our offer for Kenwyn Jones.

And Shay Given has finally handed in a transfer request? Why on earth didn't he just move to Spurs in summer when we were willing to pay him a FORTUNE.

Finally, closing the transfer window would be the best thing that's happened to the EPL in a long, long time. January should be about playing football, not monopoly with overpaid prats.
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Re: This weeks Papertalk Thread Season 2008/9

Postby johntheclaret » Mon Feb 02, 2009 12:57 am

devilsadvocate wrote:Becks to buy the O's!!! WOW!!! That's unreal. Question is, will he ever play for them?

I like the Santa Cruz rumor - beats the pants off our offer for Kenwyn Jones.

And Shay Given has finally handed in a transfer request? Why on earth didn't he just move to Spurs in summer when we were willing to pay him a FORTUNE.

Finally, closing the transfer window would be the best thing that's happened to the EPL in a long, long time. January should be about playing football, not monopoly with overpaid prats.


Scrapping the window altogether and having an open market like before would be better than what we have now. This January sales crap just inflates player prices imo.
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Re: This weeks Papertalk Thread Season 2008/9

Postby The Real Number 3 » Tue Feb 03, 2009 10:00 am

From Sky Sports


Monday 2nd February

Reds would take Lennon for Keane - The Sun
Liverpool are prepared to let Robbie Keane return to Tottenham providing Aaron Lennon is included in the deal. Should Spurs let Lennon go to sign Keane?


New exchange mooted for Robinho - The Sun
Manchester City are ready to accept Alex and Didier Drogba as part of a deal which would see Robinho join Chelsea. Who would get the better end of this deal?


Chopra poised for Cardiff - Daily Star
Sunderland striker Michael Chopra is set to rejoin Cardiff City on a permanent basis. Can Chopra fire Cardiff into the Premier League?


Bent waits on Everton - Daily Mirror
Tottenham striker Darren Bent is hoping to secure a move to Everton, but Newcastle and Sunderland are keen on the England international. Will Bent move on?


Rovers consider Kuranyi - Daily Mail
Blackburn Rovers have lined up a move for Schalke striker Kevin Kuranyi if Roque Santa Cruz leaves the club. Would Kuranyi be a good replacement?


Pompey to pounce for Ivanschitz - Daily Mail
Portsmouth are trying to sign Austrian captain Andreas Ivanschitz before the close of the transfer window. What would he add to the squad?


Bhoys ready to end Fletcher bid - Daily Record
Celtic are ready to pull out of the race for Steven Fletcher if Hibernian do not lower their asking price. West Brom are also keen, but where will Fletcher end up?
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Re: This weeks Papertalk Thread Season 2008/9

Postby devilsadvocate » Tue Feb 03, 2009 11:31 am

johntheclaret wrote:Scrapping the window altogether and having an open market like before would be better than what we have now. This January sales crap just inflates player prices imo.


Yup.

Bastards want 25m for Roque SC. 25m!!! Ut'd only paid 30m for Bebatov.
Wilson Palacios - 2008 cost 1m, 2009 cost 15m.
Jermain Defoe - 2008 cost 8m, 2009 cost 13m.

I'm sure there are lots of other examples. I wish we could watch football, not discuss players prices and wage demands in Jan.
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Re: This weeks Papertalk Thread Season 2008/9

Postby johntheclaret » Thu Feb 05, 2009 9:02 am

devilsadvocate wrote:
johntheclaret wrote:Scrapping the window altogether and having an open market like before would be better than what we have now. This January sales crap just inflates player prices imo.


Yup.

Bastards want 25m for Roque SC. 25m!!! Ut'd only paid 30m for Bebatov.
Wilson Palacios - 2008 cost 1m, 2009 cost 15m.
Jermain Defoe - 2008 cost 8m, 2009 cost 13m.

I'm sure there are lots of other examples. I wish we could watch football, not discuss players prices and wage demands in Jan.


The other side of that coin. Keano cost Pool £20m, back at Spurs 6 months later £12m

I guess he is the exception that proves the rule :lol:
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Re: This weeks Papertalk Thread Season 2008/9

Postby devilsadvocate » Fri Feb 06, 2009 4:23 am

OK, here's a piece from the Mail regarding spending on transfers:

The Barclays Premier League clubs' squads cost a staggering £1.65billion to assemble. That's so much money it's difficult to comprehend - and it doesn't even take the players' wages into account.

The gulf between big spenders Chelsea (£200.7million) and the club who have shelled out the least, Hull City (17.4m), is a whopping £183.3m.

The Tigers doubled their record transfer fee by paying Fulham £5m for Jimmy Bullard last month, yet Chelsea casually splurged the equivalent of City's entire squad on Damien Duff in 2003.

The Blues' owner, Roman Abramovich, also reportedly spent £17m on a Lucian Freud painting, Benefits Supervisor Sleeping (plus £30m on Andriy Shevchenko, who had us all sleeping with his lacklustre performances). Worlds apart? Yes, but only eight Premier League places.

There is a significant gap between the spending of Chelsea, Manchester United, Tottenham, Manchester City and Liverpool, whose squads all cost significantly more than £100m, and the rest of the Premier League clubs.

Judging by the league placings of Spurs and Manchester City, spending obviously doesn't always lead to results.

But which clubs have backed up their purchases with solid performances? Here's Sportsmail's guide to the Premier League cash cows.


1. Chelsea - £200.7m
League position: Third
Roman Abramovich's billions brought Chelsea two league titles, an FA Cup, two league cups and oh-so-close in the Champions League within four years.
But Frank Lampard's £11m move from West Ham, the home-grown talent of John Terry and Michael Ballack's free transfer from Bayern Munich seem shrewd buys compared to the proliferation of £15m-plus players driving their Bentleys into Chelsea's training ground.


2. Manchester United - £189.65m
League position: First
Sir Alex Ferguson's success has been built on players like Ryan Giggs and Paul Scholes who learnt their trade at Old Trafford, yet his current squad still cost £189.65m.

The £18.6m United spent on Michael Carrick and the £29.1m for Rio Ferdinand showed Ferguson is prepared to back his instincts, whilst the £12.25m paid to bring Ronaldo to Old Trafford was an absolute steal.


3. Tottenham - £187.2m :oops:
League position: 14th
All the gear and no idea springs to mind, but this figure is skewed by the return of Jermain Defoe and Robbie Keane to White Hart Lane.

Even so, £187.2m represents a significant outlay for a Carling Cup trophy and a relegation battle.

Plus Redknapp is always complaining about the relatively small size of his first team squad.


4. Man City - £166.6m
League position: 10th
Yeah, yeah. Manchester City are in the early stages of a 10-year development plan. But £166.6m?

The jury's still out, but Man City's willingness to pay double figures for standard Premier League players seems a touch naive.



5. Liverpool - £140.6m
League position: Second
Fernando Torres' £22m record transfer fee is the most Liverpool have paid for a player and the Spain striker has been worth every penny.

But there are perhaps too many £10m-plus players in Rafa Benitez's squad who haven't set the world on fire, such as £12m Albert Riera.

Home-grown talents Steven Gerrard and Jamie Carragher remain at the heart of Liverpool's title challenge.



6. Newcastle - £81.6m
League position: 15th
Dennis Wise needs to take a long, hard look at himself if he's still in charge of transfers at St James' Park. More than £80m has got Newcastle absolutely nowhere.


7. Aston Villa - £81.55m
League position: Fourth
The £3.5m Villa paid for Emile Heskey sums up the club's general approach to transfer dealings - solid and unshowy.

Martin O'Neill's young guns represent great value for money as they challenge for a Champions League spot.


8. Arsenal - £74.4m
League position: Fifth
A squad comprising immense young talent would perhaps benefit from a few major signings to boost the club's progress, but this is not the Arsenal way. Debt-free and living by their own means, the Arsenal model is to be admired for its sustainability.


9. Sunderland - £68.5m
League position: 13th
Roy Keane spent a lot of cash as he brought top flight football back to Wearside and Sunderland are not quite showing the value for money to repay Niall Quinn's faith.


10. West Ham - £62.25m
League position: Eighth
The Hammers had a very large squad and Zola has been shrewd in off-loading fringe players on loan deals during the transfer window. West Ham's £62.25m squad seems about right for a club of its size.


11. Everton - £60.25m
League position: Sixth
David Moyes has done a magnificent job of making Everton a competitive Premier League outfit on limited resources.

The club's £60m outlay for consistently good Premier League finishes is highly commendable.


12. Portsmouth - £51.6m
League position: 16th
A £50m squad looked a bargain under Redknapp but seems excessive under Tony Adams, especially when you consider it cost almost double that of Stoke City, with whom Pompey are equal on points in the Premier League.


13. Middlesbrough - £47.4m
League position: 19th
At almost £50m Boro's squad should be strong enough to stay up, but it's not looking good.


14. Fulham - £45.2m
League position: Ninth
Another British manager proving prudent in his wheeler-dealings, Roy Hodgson joins David Moyes in doing well with relatively limited resources.


15. Wigan - £38.3m
League position: Seventh
Steve Bruce snapped up Wilson Palacios for £1m and Wigan made a £13m profit on the player when he moved to Spurs earlier this month, representing outstanding business for the Lancashire club.

The Latics were canny in recouping £3.5m for Emile Heskey and are doing extremely well in the Premier League considering the cost of their squad.


16. Bolton - £34.75m
League position: 12th
£12m on Johann Elmander? Hmmmm. Thus said, Bolton are good value if you compare their outlay with that of Newcastle, Sunderland or Middlesbrough.


17. Blackburn - £34.4m
League position: 18th
Roque Santa Cruz is Blackburn's biggest asset and the club did not cash in on him in the transfer window. Good on them.

The big spending days of Premier League success are gone but, if Sam Allardyce can pull the club out of its current slump, Blackburn should continue to do well on a relatively small budget.


18. West Brom - £32.1m
League position: 20th
With the most expensive squad of the three promoted teams, West Brom will perhaps suffer the heaviest blow if they go straight back down.


19. Stoke - £27m
League position: 17th
A £27m squad has held a £140.6m equivalent (Liverpool) to a 0-0 draw twice in the same season. It may not always be pretty, but Stoke are playing within their means.


20. Hull - £17.4m
League position: 11th
A squad that cost less than £10m before January performed far, far beyond anyone's expectations in the first half of the season. Even if the bubble has burst, Hull City deserve to be proud of themselves. Don't forget, the club nearly went bankrupt 10 years ago.


So clearly embarassed by the amount Spurs have spent on transfers, some Spurs boys have put together the following club by club analysis, which looks at the NET spend by each club, taking into account sales etc. Not sure what period this is done over, but look at AR5ENA1: :shock:

Total Spent (purchases); Sales (Money In); Net figure; Average per season (Avg)

1 Chelsea £219,950,000; £78,300,000; £141,650,000 - (Avg) £28,330,000
2 Liverpool £215,490,000; £86,030,000; £129,460,000 - (Avg) £25,892,000
3 Manchester United £152,350,000; £76,050,000; £76,300,000 - (Avg) £15,260,000
4 Manchester City £121,020,000; £49,900,000; £71,120,000 - (Avg) £14,224,000
5 Sunderland £80,580,000; £9,650,000; £70,930,000 - (Avg) £14,186,000
6 Aston Villa £91,650,000; £21,255,000; £70,395,000 - (Avg) £14,079,000
7 Tottenham £191,800,000; £137,250,000; £54,550,000 - (Avg) £10,910,000
8 Newcastle £116,750,000; £69,400,000; £47,350,000 - (Avg) £9,470,000
9 Portsmouth £67,800,000; £36,010,000; £31,790,000 - (Avg) £6,358,000
10 Middlesborough £62,200,000; £32,500,000; £29,700,000 - (Avg) £5,940,000
12 Everton £80,100,000; £54,200,000; £25,900,000 - (Avg) £5,180,000
11 West Ham £66,145,000; £43,625,000; £22,520,000 - (Avg) £4,504,000
13 Arsenal £83,950,000; £81,720,000; £2,230,000 - (Avg) £446,000
14 Blackburn Rovers £34,100,000; £36,290,000; -£2,190,000 - (Avg)-£438,000
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Re: This weeks Papertalk Thread Season 2008/9

Postby johntheclaret » Sat Feb 07, 2009 9:02 am

Friday 6th Feb chatter.

DAILY MIRROR
Charles N'Zogbia took a farewell swipe at Joe Kinnear by telling Newcastle - you need a new manager.

Tony Adams insists the Portsmouth boo-boys will not force him to quit.

Shay Given has branded Newcastle's treatment of him "disgusting".

Michel Platini has warned English football to clean up its "ridiculous" image or risk being booted out of the Champions League.

Real Madrid are ready to top Manchester United's offer for Carlos Tevez.

Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson will get the green light to sign Luis Antonio Valencia from Wigan.

DAILY STAR
Shay Given yesterday revealed a nightmare end to his Newcastle career almost made him quit football.

Joe Kinnear has stepped up his war of words with Charles N'Zogbia by accusing him of living in a fantasy world. N'Zogbia then launched a scathing attack on his former club by saying they lack leadership.

Steve Coppell has become the latest boss to blast Andrey Arshavin's controversial move to Arsenal.

English clubs could be thrown out of the Champions League for spending more money than they earn.

Leyton Orient have appointed former Colchester boss Geraint Williams as manager of the club.

THE SUN
Tony Adams insists the Portsmouth boo-boys will not force him to quit.

Michel Platini is ready to ban crazy-spending Manchester City from European competitions.

Roque Santa Cruz has vowed to put his Manchester City heartache behind him to help save Blackburn from the drop.

Barcelona are ready to shock Thierry Henry by selling him to a Premier League club in the summer for £12million.
DAILY EXPRESS


Alan Curbishley is the new hot favourite to take over as the next manager of Portsmouth.

Andrey Arshavin has saluted manager Arsene Wenger for supporting him during his convoluted transfer.

DAILY MAIL
Steve Bruce has admitted that Antonio Valencia's exit from Wigan in the summer is inevitable - and Manchester United have first option on the player.

Arsenal are monitoring Lille midfielder Yohan Cabaye.

Wolves will make a new loan bid for Chelsea defender Michael Macienne.

DAILY RECORD
Ian Harte hopes to use a shock move to St Mirren to resurrect his dream of signing for Celtic.

Csaba Laszlo has hit out at Hearts chiefs for failing to land Slovakian defender Pavol ****.

Mark McGhee will sit down for talks with Stephen Hughes and Graeme Smith as he tries to slow the exodus.

Mixu Paatelainen knows Hibs will always be a selling club even though they held on to skipper Rob Jones and Steven Fletcher in the transfer window.

Intereting comments by Platini. He has been against English clubs since his appointment, and takes every opportunity to take a swipe at the EPL. Usually with the same final line "kicked out of Europe".

Typical European attitude toward English clubs. Happened in the 80's when they took the first chance they could after Heysel, to kick English clubs out of Europe. Using Heysel was nothing more than a front and the real reason was that English clubs were just too good.

And now the same thing is happening again. Restrict foreign players or you are out. Manage your fans or you are out. etc etc etc etc.

I mean, WTF does "clean up it's ridiculous image" mean anyway ????

I'll post the European competition winners in the Stats Thread
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Re: This weeks Papertalk Thread Season 2008/9

Postby smithy » Sat Feb 07, 2009 9:28 am

Michel Platini has a deep hatred of all things in ENglish Football, starting when he was playing for Juventus at Heysel.
Every month there seems to be a quote from him saying clean this up, clean that up.
He would just love to ban every English Club from everything and pretend they didn't exist, but does he mention the problems that are far worse in Serie A ???????????? NNNNOOOOOOOO.... he doesn't cause he played there and wants Serie A clubs to go back to dominating.

SOoner he's out the better, I'm sick of him. :evil:
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Re: This weeks Papertalk Thread Season 2008/9

Postby johntheclaret » Sat Feb 07, 2009 9:36 am

smithy wrote:Michel Platini has a deep hatred of all things in ENglish Football, starting when he was playing for Juventus at Heysel.
Every month there seems to be a quote from him saying clean this up, clean that up.
He would just love to ban every English Club from everything and pretend they didn't exist, but does he mention the problems that are far worse in Serie A ???????????? NNNNOOOOOOOO.... he doesn't cause he played there and wants Serie A clubs to go back to dominating.

SOoner he's out the better, I'm sick of him. :evil:


Nor does he mention the crowd problems that still exist in Holland and Turkey (their teams also compete in Europe). NOOOOOOO. and believe me, the Dutch had a much bigger problem with their fans th the English clubs.
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