Gawler Tuesday - Preview from Mal, inc Late MAL!

[rooburger]

have heard a small whisper about the betting syndicate touch up.
a lot of money was involved and the end result was better in nsw then here.
will try and get more info.

[Westsider]

Yeh im curious to hear what happened... not from the fact i even punted in the race, because i didnt (ISAG (I suck at gambling)), just sounds interesting and im nosey

[Groover]

was watching live about 20 secs before jump and ryles got out to 11.70! took 20 outta my pocket and whacked it on as alot of others would have, hence the end result of 3.20

[bayman]

if any corporate bookmaking firm is stupid enough to bet tote odds on meetings with sMALl pools after what has happened in the past then they deserve what they get

[mighty_tiger_79]

now the thing that annoys me, is that I had a free bet $40 to invest, I wanted to use it on THE LATE MAL, unfortunately they didnt have any Greyhound meetings set up to get on, and so i missed out, plus it would have been NSW tote odds!!!!

there are a couple of interesting stories going around

[centreman]

Punters rip $50,000 from bagmen
By Christian Nicolussi

March 11, 2009 12:00am


TWO Sydney punters were yesterday denied a full payout - and threatened with legal action - after they allegedly obtained money deceptively by copying a bets rort made famous by brothel owner Eddie Hayson.

Corporate bookmaker Mark Morrissey refused to pay in full amid suggestions the punters had manipulated the tote pools of the opening greyhound event in Adelaide.

The plunge brought back memories of Hayson's infamous $700,000 sting, which featured the colourful racing identity putting huge money on rival dogs in a bid to inflate the price of the red-hot favourite.

Yesterday, Awesome Ryles started $1.30 on the track at Gawler and with the Victorian TAB, but minutes before the race drifted out to $3.20 with UniTAB and a whopping $9.50 on the NSW TAB.

The punters reportedly won over $50,000 from the tote and Morrissey - a far cry from Hayson's bonanza, but a good return for a genuine odds-on chance.

Under the country's betting rules, corporate bookies must pay out on the middle tote - in this case $3.20.

Exactly $46,896.50 was in the NSW win pool, an amount not seen by South Australia's chief steward Paul Marks in his 13 years in the top job. The win pool for the second race at Gawler was $12,138 while the third race held a paltry $5746.30.

Awesome Ryles jumped from box eight and won by 10 lengths.

His rivals were crunched and started between $4.40 and $4.70, despite one dog, Star Demon, paying $27.40 on the Victorian TAB.

Because of the blatant manipulation, Morrissey refused to settle on the full amount and threatened the Sydney pair with court action.

One punter is believed to be well known in racing circles.

In a betting first, Morrissey said: "We were prepared to pursue this matter in court under the Crimes Act of obtaining money by deception. We thought they were cheating us so they didn't take the matter any further."

The matter was so serious that Tabcorp wrote to the NSW Office of Gaming, Liquor and Racing to investigate the manipulation of money.

Marks said he had never seen so much money invested on the opening event at a midweek Gawler dog meeting.

"The dog deserved to be odds-on. We took a swab of the dog but there seemed to be nothing out of the ordinary," Marks said. "When we realised the size of the win pool we delayed putting up the 'all clear' until we could check with UniTAB that all bets were paid, which they were.

[bayman]

i think morrisey is wrong, if they (corporate bookmakers) are going to bet tote odds (that's cheating of the tote, perhaps frame their own markets) would morrisey have said anything if the dog got beaten ?, i think the punters should be paid & should pursue it rather than the other way round because any of us could back a winner (obviously not with the same amount of money apart from G & mal) & get told you cheated we're not paying


does anyone know which firm this is ?

[centreman]

Bayman,
Mark Morrisey is involved with Betchoice - Bookmaker Colin Tidy (rails in Sydney)

Been told the 2 blokes tried to bet many small bets through different accounts and a few different agencies getting middle tote, meaning bet limits weren't exceeded.
But Plan failed to a degree when money was on too early on uni and there was late bet put on to shorten it. So getting $3.20 killed their profit.

[bayman]

thanks centreman, i was just curious

[Dutchy]

agree Bayman, if they dont like paying out tote prices put up their own markets....simple

[mighty_tiger_79]

well theres another corporate bookie banned