Mike's Top 50

[Pup]

Wow won a B & F at Richmond....must be a great player

just saying he hasnt proved anythin, well a B n F at any club is a fair achievement IMO.

I think if you re read my post i never said Deledio was over rated, i said he still had points to prove to be listed ahead of players such as Glass and i stand by that so way to take me out of context.

And with your comments on Darren Glass you are well off the mark, to say Scarlett and Rutten are a long way ahead makes me laugh. This is a bloke who was All Australian in 2006 and 2007 and if i am not mistaken WCE knocked the Crows out in the preliminary final in Adelaide so i am not sure what you are talking about Rutten playing in a poor or average side.

I cant recall Rutten ever being a permanent member in a poor side actually and with further tracking down

2008- 5th
2007- 8th
2006- 2nd
2005- 1st

Played less than 10 games in 2003 and 2003. So i am not sure were you are pulling your comparisons from.

[Rik E Boy]

It's only the Eagles fans who are saying that Scarlett isn't a long way ahead of Glass these days Pup.

regards,

REB

[wycbloods]

Scarlett

Daylight

Rutten and Glass

Daylight

The rest.

[dragonsphere]

9 Geelong players and no Enright?

[Groover]

Number 23 is very intersting. really in the top 30 in the AFL?

[McAlmanac]

Number 23 is very intersting. really in the top 30 in the AFL?

Consistently has an influence on games by shutting down stars.

[CoverKing]

Dale Morris is very good player. his last two years have been superb, but i do not think he is that high in the pecking list.
Top 50 yes, number 23 no.

[cyclops]

franklin is no1.

[dash61]

This is Mike Sheahan's Pre Season Top 50.

To avoid argument like we have had in another thread "Player X is better than Player Z".

This is how Mike has picked his top 50. The Pre Season top 50 comprises those i expect to have the greatest impact in the coming season. Selections are based on exposed form coupled with anticipated improvement. This list excludes players under an injury cloud.

1. Gary Ablett
2. Chris Judd
3. Lance Franklin
4. Dean Cox
5. Luke Hodge
6. Brendan Fevola
7. Jonathon Brown
8. Nick Riewoldt
9. Matthew Pavlich
10. Matthew Scarlett

11. Jimmy Bartel
12. Simon Black
13. Adam Cooney
14. Joel Corey
15. Matthew Richardson
16. Brent Harvey
17. Adam Goodes
18. Shaun Burgoyne
19. Daniel Kerr
20. Chad Cornes

21. Darren Glass
22 Jarryd Roughhead
23. Dale Morris
24. Cameron Ling
25. Sam Mitchell
26. Sam Fisher
27. Joel Selwood
28. Brad Sewell
29. Steve Johnson
30. Luke Power

31. Alan Didak
32. Ryan O Keefe
33. Brad Ottens
34. Daniel Bradshaw
35. Paul Chapman
36. Nathan Bock
37. Dane Swan
38. Jarrod McVeigh
39. Scott Pendlebury
40. Simon Goodwin

41. Brett Deledio
42. Ryan Griffen
43. Travis Cloke
44. Brendan Goddard
45. Chance Bateman
46. Drew Petrie
47. Cyril Rioli
48. Kane Cornes
49. Grant Birchall
50. Bryce Gibbs

Interesting List, some things i do not agree with. What is everyone elses thoughts?

If i was on a newly forming AFL club and they offered me 5 players from any of the clubs SELWOOD would be in the TOP 5, He is going to be a very very very special player for a long time to come

[hearts on fire]

23. Dale Morris

Who the hell is that?

[CoverKing]

wow i just noticed how low kane cornes was.
as much as i hate port/the cornes' he is definitely in the top 20 players IMO. he plays his role extremely well n gets plenty of touches. he has done for numerous years and will continue to do so.

surely he is better the cyril rioli, mcveigh, goodwin! even deledio,pendlebury bock swan thats a fair joke IMO

[Pup]

23. Dale Morris

Who the hell is that?

That is the exact thing opposition supporters have been asking for the last three years immediately after he has shut down one of their most dangerous forwards.

Unbelievably under rated player. Is in the top 5 stoppers in the league IMO.

[Pup]

wow i just noticed how low kane cornes was.
as much as i hate port/the cornes' he is definitely in the top 20 players IMO. he plays his role extremely well n gets plenty of touches. he has done for numerous years and will continue to do so.

surely he is better the cyril rioli, mcveigh, goodwin! even deledio,pendlebury bock swan thats a fair joke IMO

Does no damage when the footy is in his hand and that is a negative, when you are capable of getting the footy as much as him you need to have more of an impact.

Does his job very well and your right is better than a couple of players listed in my opinion as well, but if i was to pick my top 25 he would not be in it.

[CoverKing]

wow i just noticed how low kane cornes was.
as much as i hate port/the cornes' he is definitely in the top 20 players IMO. he plays his role extremely well n gets plenty of touches. he has done for numerous years and will continue to do so.

surely he is better the cyril rioli, mcveigh, goodwin! even deledio,pendlebury bock swan thats a fair joke IMO

Does no damage when the footy is in his hand and that is a negative, when you are capable of getting the footy as much as him you need to have more of an impact.

Does his job very well and your right is better than a couple of players listed in my opinion as well, but if i was to pick my top 25 he would not be in it.

fair enough he does kick a helicopter ball but imo he is up there. the beauty of this top 50 he has got everyone speaking like the journo wants

[GWW]

I'm a Port supporter but i wouldn't have K Cornes in the top 20. Kicking is not up with the elite in the comp.

[JK]

wow i just noticed how low kane cornes was.
as much as i hate port/the cornes' he is definitely in the top 20 players IMO. he plays his role extremely well n gets plenty of touches. he has done for numerous years and will continue to do so.

surely he is better the cyril rioli, mcveigh, goodwin! even deledio,pendlebury bock swan thats a fair joke IMO

Does no damage when the footy is in his hand and that is a negative, when you are capable of getting the footy as much as him you need to have more of an impact.

Does his job very well and your right is better than a couple of players listed in my opinion as well, but if i was to pick my top 25 he would not be in it.

Summed up beautifully Pup, great player, but not damaging enough to be in the elite ... His brother has the required x-factor.

[scottiemc]

This is Mike Sheahan's Pre Season Top 50.

To avoid argument like we have had in another thread "Player X is better than Player Z".

This is how Mike has picked his top 50. The Pre Season top 50 comprises those i expect to have the greatest impact in the coming season. Selections are based on exposed form coupled with anticipated improvement. This list excludes players under an injury cloud.

1. Gary Ablett
2. Chris Judd
3. Lance Franklin
4. Dean Cox
5. Luke Hodge
6. Brendan Fevola
7. Jonathon Brown
8. Nick Riewoldt
9. Matthew Pavlich
10. Matthew Scarlett

11. Jimmy Bartel
12. Simon Black
13. Adam Cooney
14. Joel Corey
15. Matthew Richardson
16. Brent Harvey
17. Adam Goodes
18. Shaun Burgoyne
19. Daniel Kerr
20. Chad Cornes

21. Darren Glass
22 Jarryd Roughhead
23. Dale Morris
24. Cameron Ling
25. Sam Mitchell
26. Sam Fisher
27. Joel Selwood
28. Brad Sewell
29. Steve Johnson
30. Luke Power

31. Alan Didak
32. Ryan O Keefe
33. Brad Ottens
34. Daniel Bradshaw
35. Paul Chapman
36. Nathan Bock
37. Dane Swan
38. Jarrod McVeigh
39. Scott Pendlebury
40. Simon Goodwin

41. Brett Deledio
42. Ryan Griffen
43. Travis Cloke
44. Brendan Goddard
45. Chance Bateman
46. Drew Petrie
47. Cyril Rioli
48. Kane Cornes
49. Grant Birchall
50. Bryce Gibbs

Interesting List, some things i do not agree with. What is everyone elses thoughts?

Few things that stick out to me :
- Fev at 6 with 3 better forwards behind him IMO
-Does the brownlow not count for anything;11,12,13 all have won one yet only one player in the top 10 has won one
-Brad Ottens (33) hardly played last year
-Bradshaw???
-Rioli, surely not top 50 yet
- Kane Cornes way too low

[CoverKing]

This is Mike Sheahan's Pre Season Top 50.

To avoid argument like we have had in another thread "Player X is better than Player Z".

This is how Mike has picked his top 50. The Pre Season top 50 comprises those i expect to have the greatest impact in the coming season. Selections are based on exposed form coupled with anticipated improvement. This list excludes players under an injury cloud.

1. Gary Ablett
2. Chris Judd
3. Lance Franklin
4. Dean Cox
5. Luke Hodge
6. Brendan Fevola
7. Jonathon Brown
8. Nick Riewoldt
9. Matthew Pavlich
10. Matthew Scarlett

11. Jimmy Bartel
12. Simon Black
13. Adam Cooney
14. Joel Corey
15. Matthew Richardson
16. Brent Harvey
17. Adam Goodes
18. Shaun Burgoyne
19. Daniel Kerr
20. Chad Cornes

21. Darren Glass
22 Jarryd Roughhead
23. Dale Morris
24. Cameron Ling
25. Sam Mitchell
26. Sam Fisher
27. Joel Selwood
28. Brad Sewell
29. Steve Johnson
30. Luke Power

31. Alan Didak
32. Ryan O Keefe
33. Brad Ottens
34. Daniel Bradshaw
35. Paul Chapman
36. Nathan Bock
37. Dane Swan
38. Jarrod McVeigh
39. Scott Pendlebury
40. Simon Goodwin

41. Brett Deledio
42. Ryan Griffen
43. Travis Cloke
44. Brendan Goddard
45. Chance Bateman
46. Drew Petrie
47. Cyril Rioli
48. Kane Cornes
49. Grant Birchall
50. Bryce Gibbs

Interesting List, some things i do not agree with. What is everyone elses thoughts?

Few things that stick out to me :
- Fev at 6 with 3 better forwards behind him IMO
-Does the brownlow not count for anything;11,12,13 all have won one yet only one player in the top 10 has won one
-Brad Ottens (33) hardly played last year
-Bradshaw???
-Rioli, surely not top 50 yet
- Kane Cornes way too low

and number 17 has won 2!!

[catchisthecry]

I think we can all agree the umpires opinion is not that important!!
How Gary Ablett has not won a Brownlow in the last 2 years is a disgrace IMO.
Cooney is a flashy player, in an even side, which won lots of games last year - I hope everyone cashed in on the umpires votes!

[McAlmanac]

wow i just noticed how low kane cornes was.
as much as i hate port/the cornes' he is definitely in the top 20 players IMO. he plays his role extremely well n gets plenty of touches. he has done for numerous years and will continue to do so.

surely he is better the cyril rioli, mcveigh, goodwin! even deledio,pendlebury bock swan thats a fair joke IMO

Does no damage when the footy is in his hand and that is a negative, when you are capable of getting the footy as much as him you need to have more of an impact.

Does his job very well and your right is better than a couple of players listed in my opinion as well, but if i was to pick my top 25 he would not be in it.

fair enough he does kick a helicopter ball but imo he is up there. the beauty of this top 50 he has got everyone speaking like the journo wants

Comment, Wally May:

If you can't kick, you can't play!