HFL Division 2 (Country)

[footy crazy]

I believe Carter is a 1 point player. Big Fella will anybody get near t v this year as I was impressed watching them play.

[the big fella]

2 early to say..but if I had a lazy $ id know where it would go..Tv over brookers then daylight..

perhaps theyll do it for GHs last year and then???
a. the comp will return to where it should be
b Daune will take over???

[boozehound]

Sorry to ask again, just want to know how Roughton, Patman and Quinn went for Maccy? All three played at TTG in div 1 last year....

Quinn was our best player IMHO and Patman was very good and also made best players but unfortunately Roughton pulled out of the game due to a family bereavement so all the best to him and hope he's OK

Ah great to hear. Three good lads there and will be good for the club.

[ORDoubleBlues]

TV side:

D Smith 1point
R battams -retired (???)
M Clayton 5 points
L Slattery 2 points
N McDowell 2 points
J Sitters 1 point
A Cooper 3 points maybe only two depending on how much A's last year at Lofty
J Hill 1 point
C Young 1 point
M carter 1 point
Smitheran 1 point
J Jacques 4 points but maybe only 3 as don't know if he was SANFL league for most of '07
J Trewen 2 points

Very clever of Gh to get all these on the gravy train and still be under 35 points!!! have I missed anyone??

Guess what I'm trying to say is that while points system is a noble idea, unfortunately it plays into the hands of the big spenders as over time 4 pointers become 3 the next year, 2 the year after that and eventually 1 the next year so if you pay them for long enough, they'll only be in 1 pointer's eventually

I think that is the idea to reward players who stay at clubs long term. I would consider players who have played at clubs 3 plus years local eg. Loffler at Uraidla. I think this is Carter's 5th year at Torrens Valley that should be worth decreasing points.

You are certainly right but if you were on what I know some of these guys are on $$$, why would you ever want to leave.
Fair enough that points do decrease but as I said, if you pay the same guys for long enough, this points system actually plays into the hands of the big spenders.

[200 Killer Wasps]

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[jstlookin]

ORDB

u r right..but Battams did play and Trewen played Bs and didnt get in best..is he supposed to be a gun??

I thought I did see him in the best - 4th or 5th from memory.

I wonder if he played B's because they couldn't fit him in the points system.........is that the first HFL club that has had to do that??

Or was it another reason he was playing B's?

ORD, the problem is whether it's the points or the salary cap, GH will still spend that much on players so i don't think the HFL can do a lot about it.

[jstlookin]

re trewen yeah is gun did get into best players hard to get into game when playing down b grade need to be in a,s as soon as possible to settle in at a new club remember. Reakon he will bag a few too

[bobster]

nah im pretty sure kangarilla had to play a few players down in the b's last year... duno how true it was tho... any thoughts on how the ladder might shape up?

[The Sorce]

Tips for this Round
Macclesfield Vs Kersbrook - Kersbrook to start their 2009 campagin off with a 15 goal + win.
Torrens Valley Vs Gumeracha - TV by over 15 goals, Hate to see what they would be like if they get to know how each other play.
Callington Vs Nairne - Nairne to Have their first win of the Season by 20 Goals +
Meadows Vs Kangy - Kangy by 20 Goals.

[Pumba]

Tips for this Round
Macclesfield Vs Kersbrook - Kersbrook to start their 2009 campagin off with a 15 goal + win.
Torrens Valley Vs Gumeracha - TV by over 15 goals, Hate to see what they would be like if they get to know how each other play.
Callington Vs Nairne - Nairne to Have their first win of the Season by 20 Goals +
Meadows Vs Kangy - Kangy by 20 Goals.

wow looks like it will be a close round of footy! surley this is bad for the competition with so many potential blowouts this early in the season?

[The Sorce]

Its just the way Country Footy is all around south australia. There is always going to be teams down the bottom of the ladder (for some reason or another (injuries, loss of players - to money)etc). One year the would be premiers the next 4 down the bottom of the ladder, it has been happening for years and will continue to happen. In the late 90s 2000 Ironbank and Echunga beat every other team by over 20 goals each week, and the only comp was between the two teams. The Top 5, teams will be close some days and blow outs the next. Look at Nairne Last year, Lost the first round to Kangy, Echunga etc by over 10 goals came back in the finals and beat them both.

[Cougar]

Its just the way Country Footy is all around south australia. There is always going to be teams down the bottom of the ladder (for some reason or another (injuries, loss of players - to money)etc). One year the would be premiers the next 4 down the bottom of the ladder, it has been happening for years and will continue to happen. In the late 90s 2000 Ironbank and Echunga beat every other team by over 20 goals each week, and the only comp was between the two teams. The Top 5, teams will be close some days and blow outs the next. Look at Nairne Last year, Lost the first round to Kangy, Echunga etc by over 10 goals came back in the finals and beat them both.

Hmmm. Late 90s Ironbank and Echunga were beating teams by 20 goals each week, and the only comp was between the two teams. Suffering dementia Sorce?

1997 - Kersbrook Top
1998 - Kersbrook Runners Up
1999 - Kersbrook Third

[FlyingHigh]

Its just the way Country Footy is all around south australia. There is always going to be teams down the bottom of the ladder (for some reason or another (injuries, loss of players - to money)etc). One year the would be premiers the next 4 down the bottom of the ladder, it has been happening for years and will continue to happen. In the late 90s 2000 Ironbank and Echunga beat every other team by over 20 goals each week, and the only comp was between the two teams. The Top 5, teams will be close some days and blow outs the next. Look at Nairne Last year, Lost the first round to Kangy, Echunga etc by over 10 goals came back in the finals and beat them both.

Hmmm. Late 90s Ironbank and Echunga were beating teams by 20 goals each week, and the only comp was between the two teams. Suffering dementia Sorce?

1997 - Kersbrook Top
1998 - Kersbrook Runners Up
1999 - Kersbrook Third

Hate to burst your bubble Cougar, but Ironbank and Echunga were both in Div 1 that year. Div 2 only had 7 teams from memory, and while Kersbrook were far ahead of the other teams, it was probably one of the "easier" flags, given the standard that year. IIRC Birdwood were Div 1 in 95, dropped back to div 2 in 96, and were very ordinary in 97. Think that was the year Ken Sheldon played a few games for them.

[The Sorce]

Cant recall what year it was I'm pretty sure it was the year before Ironbank went back to Div 1 again, 2000. But they did beat nearly every team by huge margin. There wasn't any comp it was just Ironbank and Echunga.

[Cougar]

Its just the way Country Footy is all around south australia. There is always going to be teams down the bottom of the ladder (for some reason or another (injuries, loss of players - to money)etc). One year the would be premiers the next 4 down the bottom of the ladder, it has been happening for years and will continue to happen. In the late 90s 2000 Ironbank and Echunga beat every other team by over 20 goals each week, and the only comp was between the two teams. The Top 5, teams will be close some days and blow outs the next. Look at Nairne Last year, Lost the first round to Kangy, Echunga etc by over 10 goals came back in the finals and beat them both.

Hmmm. Late 90s Ironbank and Echunga were beating teams by 20 goals each week, and the only comp was between the two teams. Suffering dementia Sorce?

1997 - Kersbrook Top
1998 - Kersbrook Runners Up
1999 - Kersbrook Third

Hate to burst your bubble Cougar, but Ironbank and Echunga were both in Div 1 that year. Div 2 only had 7 teams from memory, and while Kersbrook were far ahead of the other teams, it was probably one of the "easier" flags, given the standard that year. IIRC Birdwood were Div 1 in 95, dropped back to div 2 in 96, and were very ordinary in 97. Think that was the year Ken Sheldon played a few games for them.

Haven't bursted anyone's bubble FH. Would have considered 97,98,99 as late nineties?? 98 Kersbrook were Minor Premier and 99 Kersbrook were a kick off a GF.

[Cougar]

Cant recall what year it was I'm pretty sure it was the year before Ironbank went back to Div 1 again, 2000. But they did beat nearly every team by huge margin. There wasn't any comp it was just Ironbank and Echunga.

Reckon the great trucking magnet had a cashed up Shane Russell inspired Milang pretty competitive in the year 2000. But it was the Thunderers and the Deez in consecutive GFs in 99/2000 with both winning one each.

[FlyingHigh]

Would have considered 97,98,99 as late nineties??

Yeah, I get your point now that it wasn't just Echunga and Ironbank strong during those years, but they definitely weren't in Div 2 in '97.
Were Kersbrook just a couple of Dave Patey-Johns ribs from going back to back in '98?

[Cougar]

Would have considered 97,98,99 as late nineties??

Yeah, I get your point now that it wasn't just Echunga and Ironbank strong during those years, but they definitely weren't in Div 2 in '97.
Were Kersbrook just a couple of Dave Patey-Johns ribs from going back to back in '98?

Dave Patey-Johns played injured, and Multi Mail Medalist Matt Scott missed pretty well all of the 98 season. 98 GF was a disaster for the Brookers with Ironbank's Stewie Wells dominant up front and current Thunderers coach Gary Campbell running amok in the midfield. McKechnie, who passed away a couple of years ago, was also good for Ironbank that day in 98 too.

[Vision]

How did Ronald Rankine from Modbury to Maccy fair up?

[fruit_box]

Its just the way Country Footy is all around south australia. There is always going to be teams down the bottom of the ladder (for some reason or another (injuries, loss of players - to money)etc). One year the would be premiers the next 4 down the bottom of the ladder, it has been happening for years and will continue to happen. In the late 90s 2000 Ironbank and Echunga beat every other team by over 20 goals each week, and the only comp was between the two teams. The Top 5, teams will be close some days and blow outs the next. Look at Nairne Last year, Lost the first round to Kangy, Echunga etc by over 10 goals came back in the finals and beat them both.

Hmmm. Late 90s Ironbank and Echunga were beating teams by 20 goals each week, and the only comp was between the two teams. Suffering dementia Sorce?

1997 - Kersbrook Top
1998 - Kersbrook Runners Up
1999 - Kersbrook Third

Hate to burst your bubble Cougar, but Ironbank and Echunga were both in Div 1 that year. Div 2 only had 7 teams from memory, and while Kersbrook were far ahead of the other teams, it was probably one of the "easier" flags, given the standard that year. IIRC Birdwood were Div 1 in 95, dropped back to div 2 in 96, and were very ordinary in 97. Think that was the year Ken Sheldon played a few games for them.

Haven't bursted anyone's bubble FH. Would have considered 97,98,99 as late nineties?? 98 Kersbrook were Minor Premier and 99 Kersbrook were a kick off a GF.

I see the point being made here but at the same time i believe the 2008 Country Division A grade grand final was one of the best games of football Ive seen in my whole life.. I still believe country footy has a little bit of heart and soul still in it. Especially when you take into consideration the raw tallent of the James boys Vs the uncapped force of the G.E. Hughes Construction cheque book/payroll