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Re: HFL Country Division

Postby hillbilly » Tue May 05, 2009 8:42 pm

Rooster wrote:
hillbilly wrote:Rooster and Cougar......GROW UP!!! :oops: :oops:


settle hillbilly, we're just having a bit of fun. birdwood and kersbrook people are expected to have continual digs at eachother, and now that we don't play eachother anymore we have to do it on here...

and as for birdwood people being a bit different. yes. different from you lot...yes, we can read, write and most of us have completed grade 9. ;)

Understand...carry on :)
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Re: HFL Country Division

Postby bickle » Tue May 05, 2009 10:28 pm

how many points would the top 2-3 clubs have relating to the import rule, compared to the other clubs?
and what percentage of players would make up a team with maxamum points.
just curiuos.
what happens if you play more than your quota, fines, loss of points?
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Re: HFL Country Division

Postby The Sorce » Wed May 06, 2009 10:32 am

What happens if Callington Do Fold in the Next couple of weeks, in regards to %.
What Kersbrook done on the weekend in regards to % is basically like playing 2 games.
If they fold what happens to the teams that haven't played them yet?
(Torrens Valley, Meadows, Echunga) two teams there that may be relying on % come finals time.
Wonder if the HFL will get together and scrap the % those teams have from playing Callington or will they just let it slide.
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Re: HFL Country Division

Postby the dentist » Wed May 06, 2009 6:17 pm

The Sorce wrote:What happens if Callington Do Fold in the Next couple of weeks, in regards to %.
What Kersbrook done on the weekend in regards to % is basically like playing 2 games.
If they fold what happens to the teams that haven't played them yet?
(Torrens Valley, Meadows, Echunga) two teams there that may be relying on % come finals time.
Wonder if the HFL will get together and scrap the % those teams have from playing Callington or will they just let it slide.


common sense and fairness would sugegst that if cally fold before the end of the first round then all teams who have played them will get the standard 10 goal win as would those who no longer play them i believe that this is what will happen as it was recommended by the leauge if some of the under 17 teams folded.

however you cant really tell with the pickles running this comp
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Re: HFL Country Division

Postby aceman » Wed May 06, 2009 8:36 pm

Tooting Bec wrote:give them an ultimatum to stop these exorbitant payments or make them go into div 1 against the big boys might be an option?




Sorry to repeat myself again but if the promotion/relegation system was implimented the HFL would be a far better place.
And as an aside, a few years ago I told the HFL and one of their founding fathers Ian Holton that Cally would eventually become a basket case and they have!
He might be a 'long range' weather forecaster but he was a long way off with this one.
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Re: HFL Country Division

Postby lovetotalkfooty » Wed May 06, 2009 9:34 pm

the dentist wrote:
The Sorce wrote:What happens if Callington Do Fold in the Next couple of weeks, in regards to %.
What Kersbrook done on the weekend in regards to % is basically like playing 2 games.
If they fold what happens to the teams that haven't played them yet?
(Torrens Valley, Meadows, Echunga) two teams there that may be relying on % come finals time.
Wonder if the HFL will get together and scrap the % those teams have from playing Callington or will they just let it slide.


common sense and fairness would sugegst that if cally fold before the end of the first round then all teams who have played them will get the standard 10 goal win as would those who no longer play them i believe that this is what will happen as it was recommended by the leauge if some of the under 17 teams folded.

however you cant really tell with the pickles running this comp


what happens to all the goal kickers from that round? do they get 0 for the round?
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Re: HFL Country Division

Postby daysofourlives » Wed May 06, 2009 10:38 pm

hows things at termiteland?
no doubt the termite is looking forward to his 1st win this weekend. im sure he will be back on the forum next week to let us all know
geez i hope callington dont forfeit or fold cos it will be a long winless season for the termites if they do :lol: :lol:
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Re: HFL Country Division

Postby the dentist » Thu May 07, 2009 11:42 am

lovetotalkfooty wrote:
the dentist wrote:
The Sorce wrote:What happens if Callington Do Fold in the Next couple of weeks, in regards to %.
What Kersbrook done on the weekend in regards to % is basically like playing 2 games.
If they fold what happens to the teams that haven't played them yet?
(Torrens Valley, Meadows, Echunga) two teams there that may be relying on % come finals time.
Wonder if the HFL will get together and scrap the % those teams have from playing Callington or will they just let it slide.


common sense and fairness would sugegst that if cally fold before the end of the first round then all teams who have played them will get the standard 10 goal win as would those who no longer play them i believe that this is what will happen as it was recommended by the leauge if some of the under 17 teams folded.

however you cant really tell with the pickles running this comp


what happens to all the goal kickers from that round? do they get 0 for the round?


stupid question. goals would still count but all past wins against callington would only recieve 10 goal percantage (equal to a forfeit). i think a few country leagues are trialing this out for any win over 10 goals. probably to avoid potential embarrassment. SFL were considering it 2 years ago but shelved the idea
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Re: HFL Country Division

Postby Bat Pad » Thu May 07, 2009 3:11 pm

There is a post on the GSFL website regarding a rumour of Willunga heading into the Southern League and Kangarilla heading to the GSFL next year. Can anyone from Kangy catergorically confirm or deny this rumour? If it is true, where would this leave Country Division with the issues it is having with Callington and Torrens Valley at the moment. Assuming Callington are a definite to leave A grade, and some people want TV out, this would leave a 6 team comp. That would be a bit of a debacle in my opinion. If Kangy were to leave the comp, i think there may be a few other sides wanting to jump ship.
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Re: HFL Country Division

Postby Gervais » Thu May 07, 2009 3:55 pm

Bat Pad wrote:There is a post on the GSFL website regarding a rumour of Willunga heading into the Southern League and Kangarilla heading to the GSFL next year. Can anyone from Kangy catergorically confirm or deny this rumour? If it is true, where would this leave Country Division with the issues it is having with Callington and Torrens Valley at the moment. Assuming Callington are a definite to leave A grade, and some people want TV out, this would leave a 6 team comp. That would be a bit of a debacle in my opinion. If Kangy were to leave the comp, i think there may be a few other sides wanting to jump ship.


I'm not sure why you think TV will be leaving Country Division.

While some posters may want them out (although I'm not sure why - surely there's more than they spend too much), I suspect TV are happy to play Country. If they desired, they could have requested to join Central Division anytime over the past 3 years (the HFL consititution and by-laws allows for this).

In any comp you'll have big teams and small teams, good squads and poor squads. Take Callington out of the discussion, and the Country Divivion is not unlike any other football comp - some weeks the games are close, other weeks there are blowouts.
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Re: HFL Country Division

Postby Bat Pad » Thu May 07, 2009 4:14 pm

Gervais wrote:
Bat Pad wrote:There is a post on the GSFL website regarding a rumour of Willunga heading into the Southern League and Kangarilla heading to the GSFL next year. Can anyone from Kangy catergorically confirm or deny this rumour? If it is true, where would this leave Country Division with the issues it is having with Callington and Torrens Valley at the moment. Assuming Callington are a definite to leave A grade, and some people want TV out, this would leave a 6 team comp. That would be a bit of a debacle in my opinion. If Kangy were to leave the comp, i think there may be a few other sides wanting to jump ship.


I'm not sure why you think TV will be leaving Country Division.

While some posters may want them out (although I'm not sure why - surely there's more than they spend too much), I suspect TV are happy to play Country. If they desired, they could have requested to join Central Division anytime over the past 3 years (the HFL consititution and by-laws allows for this).

In any comp you'll have big teams and small teams, good squads and poor squads. Take Callington out of the discussion, and the Country Divivion is not unlike any other football comp - some weeks the games are close, other weeks there are blowouts.


I think one of the people who wants TV gone may be the one at the top.

Im not talking about the standard of the league either, im just talking about the number of teams. Leagues out bush can have low numbers and still function because the sides in those leagues cant afford to play elsewhere due to the other leagues being so far away. However this is not the case for Hills Country. Why wouldn't Meadows just apply for the GSFL instead of playing in a 6 team comp, all the teams are closer than Kersbrook? Why wouldnt Kerbrook just apply to go in the BLGFL, all the teams are closer than Meadows? Same could be said for Torrens Valley. Obviously the Kangy thing is just a rumour and could end up being garbage. TV will also most probably still be in Hills Country next year. Im just speaking in hypotheticals. 3 years ago Hills Country had 11 teams. Now it has 9, and will surely, only have at most 8 next year (due to Callington). Does not send good omens for it's future.
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Re: HFL Country Division

Postby the big fella » Thu May 07, 2009 4:23 pm

be surprised if kangy want to move..they would be seen as perennial "movers" and would not be popular with HFL..

perhaps they r peed off with TV situation too...
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Re: HFL Country Division

Postby Animus » Thu May 07, 2009 4:28 pm

GSFL works well as a 10 team comp, couldn't see them changing that ever, and i highly doubt willunga would want to leave.

Should bring back the McLaren Flat football club to play hills country :D it is an expanding area and could be a good addition to the league...
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Re: HFL Country Division

Postby Brock Landers » Thu May 07, 2009 5:50 pm

Animus wrote:GSFL works well as a 10 team comp, couldn't see them changing that ever, and i highly doubt willunga would want to leave.

Should bring back the McLaren Flat football club to play hills country :D it is an expanding area and could be a good addition to the league...


I can't see that ever happening. All of the Mclaren Flat people involved in footy are already at Mclaren, Kangy's or Willunga
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Re: HFL Country Division

Postby The Crumber » Thu May 07, 2009 6:38 pm

aceman wrote:
Tooting Bec wrote:give them an ultimatum to stop these exorbitant payments or make them go into div 1 against the big boys might be an option?




Sorry to repeat myself again but if the promotion/relegation system was implimented the HFL would be a far better place.
And as an aside, a few years ago I told the HFL and one of their founding fathers Ian Holton that Cally would eventually become a basket case and they have!
He might be a 'long range' weather forecaster but he was a long way off with this one.


I think the few remaining at Cally from those early days would feel it was worth a shot Aceman. There were many in those early days who supported Ian's vision and maybe didn't do any homework other than loving the game. Reaching the finals in their 4th year was a massive achievment and went towards validating the dream. Hindsight is a wonderful thing mate.

There have been letters in the Courier from long-termers at Cally, and airspace on radio and plenty said in pubs. I still have my boots from those days and they were good days. Maybe it's time for ALL from those days who can still offer something, to stand up? Anyone from those days please PM me. Anyone knowing anyone from the first year, tell them. Then if it still fails, it was meant to, and your prediction will be right Aceman.
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Re: HFL Country Division

Postby Kickittometoo » Thu May 07, 2009 9:16 pm

The Crumber wrote:Kersbrook had kicked nearly 60 goals by 3/4 time and I think it was inappropriate to let the game continue, unless it was Callington's choice. Overkill in footy isn't funny when a club is in so much trouble.

The idea of a C grade only for Callington this year was raised at one of their emergency meetings pre-season, along with some other very valid ideas to keep the club afloat. But only a small minority of members were willing to entertain the idea. At the next meeting, a huge committee was elected which was bigger than their genuine Senior list at the time, but unfortunately the players required to fulfill the plan didn't eventuate.

A 3 Div Comp in HFL is long overdue. One only has to look at some of the demolitions in Div 2 in recent years to see that this MUST happen. Avoiding relegation is great motivation for clubs on the 'borderline' in situations like this and can only be a good thing for the comp.

Re the media infiltrating Callington, I think this should be discussed very, very carefully by all stakeholders at the club before making that decision. I had some good mates playing at Milang when they took up a similar offer years ago and the eventual outcome wasn't pretty. It was motivational for a fortnight, but a few weeks later the club fell into an even bigger hole when the hype wore off. The decision to involve the media at the Panthers was made by a handful of members and regretted soon after. I don't think Cally should get carried away by the offer.


To CRUMBER and all, i have been following the sad United Eagles story for months. I am with you. The above post was the most sensible thing said in all this by a long shot and you are spot on with EVERYTHING u say. You are so right. Crumber i suspect u are like me and to old to do it all again out there, but u gotta have a soft spot for it all, yep they were good days mate. Will PM u.

To CK also we played together mate in those days, good you have gone to such heights, maybe get in touch with the Eagles and extend a hand??
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Re: HFL Country Division

Postby aceman » Thu May 07, 2009 9:46 pm

Gervais wrote:
Bat Pad wrote:There is a post on the GSFL website regarding a rumour of Willunga heading into the Southern League and Kangarilla heading to the GSFL next year. Can anyone from Kangy catergorically confirm or deny this rumour? If it is true, where would this leave Country Division with the issues it is having with Callington and Torrens Valley at the moment. Assuming Callington are a definite to leave A grade, and some people want TV out, this would leave a 6 team comp. That would be a bit of a debacle in my opinion. If Kangy were to leave the comp, i think there may be a few other sides wanting to jump ship.


I'm not sure why you think TV will be leaving Country Division.

While some posters may want them out (although I'm not sure why - surely there's more than they spend too much), I suspect TV are happy to play Country. If they desired, they could have requested to join Central Division anytime over the past 3 years (the HFL consititution and by-laws allows for this).

In any comp you'll have big teams and small teams, good squads and poor squads. Take Callington out of the discussion, and the Country Divivion is not unlike any other football comp - some weeks the games are close, other weeks there are blowouts.



Of course they love playing Country division, it's a lot easier for them than playing against better and stronger opposition and winning more games.
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Re: HFL Country Division

Postby On The Pine » Thu May 07, 2009 9:46 pm

Gervais wrote:
Bat Pad wrote:There is a post on the GSFL website regarding a rumour of Willunga heading into the Southern League and Kangarilla heading to the GSFL next year. Can anyone from Kangy catergorically confirm or deny this rumour? If it is true, where would this leave Country Division with the issues it is having with Callington and Torrens Valley at the moment. Assuming Callington are a definite to leave A grade, and some people want TV out, this would leave a 6 team comp. That would be a bit of a debacle in my opinion. If Kangy were to leave the comp, i think there may be a few other sides wanting to jump ship.


I'm not sure why you think TV will be leaving Country Division.

While some posters may want them out (although I'm not sure why - surely there's more than they spend too much), I suspect TV are happy to play Country. If they desired, they could have requested to join Central Division anytime over the past 3 years (the HFL consititution and by-laws allows for this).

In any comp you'll have big teams and small teams, good squads and poor squads. Take Callington out of the discussion, and the Country Divivion is not unlike any other football comp - some weeks the games are close, other weeks there are blowouts.




Apologies for my lack of knowledge re Hills Country, but it seems TV aren't well liked. Other than the amount they spend, what's the background?
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Re: HFL Country Division

Postby Shortman » Thu May 07, 2009 9:52 pm

On The Pine wrote:
Gervais wrote:
Bat Pad wrote:There is a post on the GSFL website regarding a rumour of Willunga heading into the Southern League and Kangarilla heading to the GSFL next year. Can anyone from Kangy catergorically confirm or deny this rumour? If it is true, where would this leave Country Division with the issues it is having with Callington and Torrens Valley at the moment. Assuming Callington are a definite to leave A grade, and some people want TV out, this would leave a 6 team comp. That would be a bit of a debacle in my opinion. If Kangy were to leave the comp, i think there may be a few other sides wanting to jump ship.


I'm not sure why you think TV will be leaving Country Division.

While some posters may want them out (although I'm not sure why - surely there's more than they spend too much), I suspect TV are happy to play Country. If they desired, they could have requested to join Central Division anytime over the past 3 years (the HFL consititution and by-laws allows for this).

In any comp you'll have big teams and small teams, good squads and poor squads. Take Callington out of the discussion, and the Country Divivion is not unlike any other football comp - some weeks the games are close, other weeks there are blowouts.




Apologies for my lack of knowledge re Hills Country, but it seems TV aren't well liked. Other than the amount they spend, what's the background?


Its not so much the club itself..... its more the "coach". Garry thinks he can bend the rules and buy every player under the sun...... its not a stretch to say if they had a real coach they wouldnt be beaten at all. The way he acts has translated into the club too, they are arrogant, cocky and when things dont go their way, abusive. He's just pushed the local players aside so much that when he leaves id imagine their fall down the ladder will be exceedingly rapid.
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Re: HFL Country Division

Postby aceman » Thu May 07, 2009 10:09 pm

Shortman wrote:
On The Pine wrote:
Gervais wrote:
Bat Pad wrote:There is a post on the GSFL website regarding a rumour of Willunga heading into the Southern League and Kangarilla heading to the GSFL next year. Can anyone from Kangy catergorically confirm or deny this rumour? If it is true, where would this leave Country Division with the issues it is having with Callington and Torrens Valley at the moment. Assuming Callington are a definite to leave A grade, and some people want TV out, this would leave a 6 team comp. That would be a bit of a debacle in my opinion. If Kangy were to leave the comp, i think there may be a few other sides wanting to jump ship.


I'm not sure why you think TV will be leaving Country Division.

While some posters may want them out (although I'm not sure why - surely there's more than they spend too much), I suspect TV are happy to play Country. If they desired, they could have requested to join Central Division anytime over the past 3 years (the HFL consititution and by-laws allows for this).

In any comp you'll have big teams and small teams, good squads and poor squads. Take Callington out of the discussion, and the Country Divivion is not unlike any other football comp - some weeks the games are close, other weeks there are blowouts.




Apologies for my lack of knowledge re Hills Country, but it seems TV aren't well liked. Other than the amount they spend, what's the background?


Its not so much the club itself..... its more the "coach". Garry thinks he can bend the rules and buy every player under the sun...... its not a stretch to say if they had a real coach they wouldnt be beaten at all. The way he acts has translated into the club too, they are arrogant, cocky and when things dont go their way, abusive. He's just pushed the local players aside so much that when he leaves id imagine their fall down the ladder will be exceedingly rapid.


A bit like when he bailed out at Gumeracha eh!
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