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Re: Carlton Season 2009

Postby Mr66 » Sun Jun 28, 2009 8:27 pm

Adelaide Hawk wrote:
Do the sums, and you'll realise what kind of player he is.


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Re: Carlton Season 2009

Postby Turbo » Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:57 pm

gadj1976 wrote:
Dutchy wrote:I still dont understand why they got rid of Pagan for Ratten :?

Can guarantee you Fev wouldnt be there now for a start


Ask people like Scott Camporeale, Corey McKernan, Hickmott and a few others why they didn't want to continue. That's why Pagan's not there any more.

Also, why wouldn't other clubs be jumping to sign him up if he was still revered.


All those players were finished as was Pagan's career as a coach. He hadn't moved with the time. He was still coaching with a '90's style but it was the beginning of a new decade and a new style of footy with different coaching strategies.

If Fev were on the market there would be 15 teams showing interest bottom line.
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Re: Carlton Season 2009

Postby Turbo » Mon Jun 29, 2009 11:01 pm

Mr66 wrote:
Adelaide Hawk wrote:
Do the sums, and you'll realise what kind of player he is.


The Terrell Owens of the AFL


Hardly the same. Its funny seeing people who don't support the Blues on the Blues forum!!!

Essendon out played the Blues on the weekend but they won't amount to much. People quickly forget that Carlton were only beaten by 9 points against the Saints a week ago and have lost a number of games by less than 10 points this season.

Nothing to worry about, just young players ganing experience and being better for it. All teams go through it. Geelong and Hawthorn did in the last 5 or so years
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Re: Carlton Season 2009

Postby Rik E Boy » Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:34 am

People also quickly forget that Carlton can't beat St Kilda, Geelong, Hawthorn, North Melbourne, Adelaide, Essendon or Sydney but apparently they're coming. If they don't start ending some of these hoodoos it will be the Blue who won't amount to much.

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Re: Carlton Season 2009

Postby Voice » Tue Jun 30, 2009 6:35 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:People also quickly forget that Carlton can't beat St Kilda, Geelong, Hawthorn, North Melbourne, Adelaide, Essendon or Sydney but apparently they're coming. If they don't start ending some of these hoodoos it will be the Blue who won't amount to much.

regards,

REB

This is happening way to much and it's scary but, I TOTALLY :shock: agree with your above post REB.

This year was supposed to be another step up as last year was. Instead there is less pasion for the contest then I seen last year and no improvement in gameplan.

When I kept arguing with you earlier in the year REB, I think I was seeing something that just isn't there atm. Now I find myself agreeing with you about not only what you have to say now, but also those things I was vehemently opposed to earlier in the year.

You can catch me pedalling backwards down your street in the near future ;) .
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Re: Carlton Season 2009

Postby Turbo » Wed Jul 01, 2009 7:41 pm

Voice wrote:
Rik E Boy wrote:People also quickly forget that Carlton can't beat St Kilda, Geelong, Hawthorn, North Melbourne, Adelaide, Essendon or Sydney but apparently they're coming. If they don't start ending some of these hoodoos it will be the Blue who won't amount to much.

regards,

REB

This is happening way to much and it's scary but, I TOTALLY :shock: agree with your above post REB.

This year was supposed to be another step up as last year was. Instead there is less pasion for the contest then I seen last year and no improvement in gameplan.

When I kept arguing with you earlier in the year REB, I think I was seeing something that just isn't there atm. Now I find myself agreeing with you about not only what you have to say now, but also those things I was vehemently opposed to earlier in the year.

You can catch me pedalling backwards down your street in the near future ;) .



you should be used to it being a sturt supporter
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Re: Carlton Season 2009

Postby gadj1976 » Wed Jul 01, 2009 7:44 pm

Voice wrote:
Rik E Boy wrote:People also quickly forget that Carlton can't beat St Kilda, Geelong, Hawthorn, North Melbourne, Adelaide, Essendon or Sydney but apparently they're coming. If they don't start ending some of these hoodoos it will be the Blue who won't amount to much.

regards,

REB

This is happening way to much and it's scary but, I TOTALLY :shock: agree with your above post REB.

This year was supposed to be another step up as last year was. Instead there is less pasion for the contest then I seen last year and no improvement in gameplan.

When I kept arguing with you earlier in the year REB, I think I was seeing something that just isn't there atm. Now I find myself agreeing with you about not only what you have to say now, but also those things I was vehemently opposed to earlier in the year.

You can catch me pedalling backwards down your street in the near future ;) .


My god.....two weeks ago we lost by 9pts to St Kilda, this week we're write offs. Give me a break.
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Re: Carlton Season 2009

Postby Voice » Wed Jul 01, 2009 7:54 pm

gadj1976 wrote:
Voice wrote:
Rik E Boy wrote:People also quickly forget that Carlton can't beat St Kilda, Geelong, Hawthorn, North Melbourne, Adelaide, Essendon or Sydney but apparently they're coming. If they don't start ending some of these hoodoos it will be the Blue who won't amount to much.

regards,

REB

This is happening way to much and it's scary but, I TOTALLY :shock: agree with your above post REB.

This year was supposed to be another step up as last year was. Instead there is less pasion for the contest then I seen last year and no improvement in gameplan.

When I kept arguing with you earlier in the year REB, I think I was seeing something that just isn't there atm. Now I find myself agreeing with you about not only what you have to say now, but also those things I was vehemently opposed to earlier in the year.

You can catch me pedalling backwards down your street in the near future ;) .


My god.....two weeks ago we lost by 9pts to St Kilda, this week we're write offs. Give me a break.

You really see anything we can hang our hat on. Nothing has changed and if anything, we've gotten worse. We can't win a close game to save our lives this year and we haven't beaten anyone important who we couldn't beat last year. Surly after the 7 or 8 years we've had you would want to see year by year improvement. It's not happening!
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Re: Carlton Season 2009

Postby Voice » Wed Jul 01, 2009 7:59 pm

Turbo wrote:
Voice wrote:
Rik E Boy wrote:People also quickly forget that Carlton can't beat St Kilda, Geelong, Hawthorn, North Melbourne, Adelaide, Essendon or Sydney but apparently they're coming. If they don't start ending some of these hoodoos it will be the Blue who won't amount to much.

regards,

REB

This is happening way to much and it's scary but, I TOTALLY :shock: agree with your above post REB.

This year was supposed to be another step up as last year was. Instead there is less pasion for the contest then I seen last year and no improvement in gameplan.

When I kept arguing with you earlier in the year REB, I think I was seeing something that just isn't there atm. Now I find myself agreeing with you about not only what you have to say now, but also those things I was vehemently opposed to earlier in the year.

You can catch me pedalling backwards down your street in the near future ;) .



you should be used to it being a sturt supporter

Easy for someone to say that doesn't have an SANFL team listed that you support :roll:
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Re: Carlton Season 2009

Postby gadj1976 » Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:21 pm

Voice wrote:
gadj1976 wrote:
Voice wrote:
Rik E Boy wrote:People also quickly forget that Carlton can't beat St Kilda, Geelong, Hawthorn, North Melbourne, Adelaide, Essendon or Sydney but apparently they're coming. If they don't start ending some of these hoodoos it will be the Blue who won't amount to much.

regards,

REB

This is happening way to much and it's scary but, I TOTALLY :shock: agree with your above post REB.

This year was supposed to be another step up as last year was. Instead there is less pasion for the contest then I seen last year and no improvement in gameplan.

When I kept arguing with you earlier in the year REB, I think I was seeing something that just isn't there atm. Now I find myself agreeing with you about not only what you have to say now, but also those things I was vehemently opposed to earlier in the year.

You can catch me pedalling backwards down your street in the near future ;) .


My god.....two weeks ago we lost by 9pts to St Kilda, this week we're write offs. Give me a break.

You really see anything we can hang our hat on. Nothing has changed and if anything, we've gotten worse. We can't win a close game to save our lives this year and we haven't beaten anyone important who we couldn't beat last year. Surly after the 7 or 8 years we've had you would want to see year by year improvement. It's not happening!


At least we're getting close this year. I'd take losing 5 or so games under 20 pts rather than getting blown out of the water week in week out like we were under Pagan.

I don't get it Voice, you sagreed with me when I said we have no depth, and struggle with big bodies yet we're supposed to be top 4 and win every close game? Be realistic. Only if everything under the sun went right for us we could even dream of being top 4 this season (given that the top 4 from last season weren't expected to drop much this season). Playing finals is a good possibility and realistically we should be happy to be sitting in the 8 now given those games we've dropped in close ones.

Don't get me wrong, I was pi$$ed last week but let's hope that's a once of, not a return to the bad old days.

To say we've gone nowhere is simply a silly comment. Even if you just look at our percentage - that's a massive improvement on recent years when we tended to get beaten heavily often.

I can hang my hat on quite a few things. However we always tend to focus on the bad. The development of our non-existent backline has been sensational. Hampson, Jacobs, Joseph, Garlett has added depth, remembering we've got a 19yo leading our ruck and no CHF - but hey I'm the first to admit we need more experience and consistency if we're going to catch the likes of the Saints and Geelong. Be patient!
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Re: Carlton Season 2009

Postby stan » Wed Jul 01, 2009 10:11 pm

Joseph is one that might but the hard in and under player the midfield needs. I guess time will tell.
Also that back line needs some work, maybe bring back sos.
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Re: Carlton Season 2009

Postby Dirko » Wed Jul 01, 2009 10:18 pm

stan wrote:Also that back line needs some work, maybe bring back sos.


The backline will be OK.

We haven't had our best back 6 all season with either Jamo, Bower, T-Bird or Waite injured...

More then happy how that's progressing, it's just the midfield and forwards now that need a bit of work.
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Re: Carlton Season 2009

Postby Dirko » Wed Jul 01, 2009 10:31 pm

Carlton will be wearing a Yellow Jumper this week to raise Cancer awareness in association with Lance Armstong and the Livestrong foundation.

Yellow to symbolise Lance's foundation and the Yellow Tour de France leaders jersey.

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Don't mind it, and it's for a good cause....
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Re: Carlton Season 2009

Postby Turbo » Wed Jul 01, 2009 10:46 pm

gadj1976 wrote:
Voice wrote:
Rik E Boy wrote:People also quickly forget that Carlton can't beat St Kilda, Geelong, Hawthorn, North Melbourne, Adelaide, Essendon or Sydney but apparently they're coming. If they don't start ending some of these hoodoos it will be the Blue who won't amount to much.

regards,

REB

This is happening way to much and it's scary but, I TOTALLY :shock: agree with your above post REB.

This year was supposed to be another step up as last year was. Instead there is less pasion for the contest then I seen last year and no improvement in gameplan.

When I kept arguing with you earlier in the year REB, I think I was seeing something that just isn't there atm. Now I find myself agreeing with you about not only what you have to say now, but also those things I was vehemently opposed to earlier in the year.

You can catch me pedalling backwards down your street in the near future ;) .


My god.....two weeks ago we lost by 9pts to St Kilda, this week we're write offs. Give me a break.


I agree, its weak minded people like that who should support another team
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Re: Carlton Season 2009

Postby Turbo » Wed Jul 01, 2009 10:47 pm

Voice wrote:
gadj1976 wrote:
Voice wrote:
Rik E Boy wrote:People also quickly forget that Carlton can't beat St Kilda, Geelong, Hawthorn, North Melbourne, Adelaide, Essendon or Sydney but apparently they're coming. If they don't start ending some of these hoodoos it will be the Blue who won't amount to much.

regards,

REB

This is happening way to much and it's scary but, I TOTALLY :shock: agree with your above post REB.

This year was supposed to be another step up as last year was. Instead there is less pasion for the contest then I seen last year and no improvement in gameplan.

When I kept arguing with you earlier in the year REB, I think I was seeing something that just isn't there atm. Now I find myself agreeing with you about not only what you have to say now, but also those things I was vehemently opposed to earlier in the year.

You can catch me pedalling backwards down your street in the near future ;) .


My god.....two weeks ago we lost by 9pts to St Kilda, this week we're write offs. Give me a break.

You really see anything we can hang our hat on. Nothing has changed and if anything, we've gotten worse. We can't win a close game to save our lives this year and we haven't beaten anyone important who we couldn't beat last year. Surly after the 7 or 8 years we've had you would want to see year by year improvement. It's not happening!


so the bulldogs, collingwood, and brisbanr aren't big scalps???
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Re: Carlton Season 2009

Postby Turbo » Wed Jul 01, 2009 10:50 pm

Voice wrote:
Turbo wrote:
Voice wrote:
Rik E Boy wrote:People also quickly forget that Carlton can't beat St Kilda, Geelong, Hawthorn, North Melbourne, Adelaide, Essendon or Sydney but apparently they're coming. If they don't start ending some of these hoodoos it will be the Blue who won't amount to much.

regards,

REB

This is happening way to much and it's scary but, I TOTALLY :shock: agree with your above post REB.

This year was supposed to be another step up as last year was. Instead there is less pasion for the contest then I seen last year and no improvement in gameplan.

When I kept arguing with you earlier in the year REB, I think I was seeing something that just isn't there atm. Now I find myself agreeing with you about not only what you have to say now, but also those things I was vehemently opposed to earlier in the year.

You can catch me pedalling backwards down your street in the near future ;) .



you should be used to it being a sturt supporter

Easy for someone to say that doesn't have an SANFL team listed that you support :roll:


you assume i support sanfl, i know enough that sturt have been rubbish pretty much for decades except for a couple of seasons recently
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Re: Carlton Season 2009

Postby Voice » Thu Jul 02, 2009 8:17 am

Read my post properly turbo. I said big scalps that we didn't beat last year. All those teams you mentioned we beat last year so your point is redundant.
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Re: Carlton Season 2009

Postby Voice » Thu Jul 02, 2009 8:22 am

And your point regarding Sturt, we've made finals virtually every year since 97, plus a flag in 02 so that would make us far from rubbish for quite a long time now. Keep up mate!
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Re: Carlton Season 2009

Postby Rik E Boy » Thu Jul 02, 2009 8:41 am

Carlton HAVE improved but as yet that improvement has not translated into victories over the sides that the Blues have had trouble beating over the last, well decade really. But it has resulted in improved percentage.

The Blues haven't gone backwards, it's just that they haven't lived up to the pre-season hype. Earlier this year I stated that I didn't 'get' where the hype was coming from and I tipped Carlton to just miss out on the eight but I'm thinking at this stage that Carlton CAN qualify. If they say they are coming and they make the eight they've lived up to part of the promise of February. Surely the top four was never really on?

The problem may be Fev!

regards,

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Re: Carlton Season 2009

Postby Rik E Boy » Thu Jul 02, 2009 8:42 am

Voice wrote:And your point regarding Sturt, we've made finals virtually every year since 97, plus a flag in 02 so that would make us far from rubbish for quite a long time now. Keep up mate!


Maybe Turbs got mixed up with the Legs! :(

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