SAAFL Div 5 & 5R (2009)

[Jabber]

Big call though. Top div 6 sides would not get near top D1r sides and there is no shame in that by the way. I sincerely doubt a top div 5 side would beat them either. D4 there is some good sides and that is where I'd say the standard may be matched up the high end of the ladder. Just the sheer pace they move the ball is far greater than the lower divisions which would expose big gaps. No shame however

I umpired a div 2res match last year on anzac day, two reasonable sides, i think both figured in finals. The one thing that i noticed that would be the biggest difference is pace, they were zip-zapping all over the field, quicker than anythign i umpired in div 5, 6, 7 that year.

The skills may be on a level playing field but the pace is what will set the difference, i would assume that a div 1res side would be as quick as a div 2res side.

yes jabber..the pace is the key..you have to remember..a lot of the div 1 res players would be fringe div 1 players..div 1 is a bloody good competition..what happens is clubs get insular to how good/bad they are going..you have to get out and smell the roses..the top teams in div 5 would handle BL and CLG in my opinion..so i dont see how BL could even contemplate beating a div 1 res team..unless the div 1 team was suitably struggling..the pace would cut up BL quickly..saying that, i havent seen BL in action yet but i have seen CLG, but from what i can gather BL are very strong and physical with some wise older heads who use their experience well, and CLG are faster but maybe not so bulky..perhaps a combination of the 2 teams may present a challenge for a struggling div 1 res team?

only oipinions though..just like a******s..everyone has one

I look at plympton at the moment, they've got 2 or 3 blokes at that high level of pace, but that div 2res side had 10 blokes at that level...

[pigdog]

Good to see a handful of the Rosewater B grade finish the game off well - good image for the club to start sniping in the final 10 minutes when the game was done and dusted... that big peanut that decided to break a blokes nose who is about half the size of him desveres to sit out the rest of the season, if not the rest of next season too

Sorry to hear that. Didn`t get to see the game on the weekend(darn work) not the way rosie`s have been playing in recent years. Will have to ask a few question`s, not the way we want to be seen out there in the general footy community. sorry again

[(S)aintbackline]

Congratulations must go to Rosies, played a harder style of footy than us on the weekend. Prime movers used the ball well and got numbers behind the ball. As for WOS a week is a long time in footy and it showed, back among the pack again but looking forward to the next 6 weeks, getting a few guys back and see if we can sneak in.

Was a good game both teams fought back to take the lead in the last quarter with junior jake giving goal of the year a shake from the boundary in front of the Rosewater faithful to hit the lead once again. Impressive debut for young Motlop with a nice little 5 goal haul, looked good. Kells was great in defence. Big Rusty was impressive as well against some tall timber from WOS, they seem to have talls everywhere including the magoos! Good team effort!!

im glad it was scotty and not shaun who kicked it or else we would never hear the end of it

[LaughingKookaburra]

Big call though. Top div 6 sides would not get near top D1r sides and there is no shame in that by the way. I sincerely doubt a top div 5 side would beat them either. D4 there is some good sides and that is where I'd say the standard may be matched up the high end of the ladder. Just the sheer pace they move the ball is far greater than the lower divisions which would expose big gaps. No shame however

I umpired a div 2res match last year on anzac day, two reasonable sides, i think both figured in finals. The one thing that i noticed that would be the biggest difference is pace, they were zip-zapping all over the field, quicker than anythign i umpired in div 5, 6, 7 that year.

The skills may be on a level playing field but the pace is what will set the difference, i would assume that a div 1res side would be as quick as a div 2res side.

yes jabber..the pace is the key..you have to remember..a lot of the div 1 res players would be fringe div 1 players..div 1 is a bloody good competition..what happens is clubs get insular to how good/bad they are going..you have to get out and smell the roses..the top teams in div 5 would handle BL and CLG in my opinion..so i dont see how BL could even contemplate beating a div 1 res team..unless the div 1 team was suitably struggling..the pace would cut up BL quickly..saying that, i havent seen BL in action yet but i have seen CLG, but from what i can gather BL are very strong and physical with some wise older heads who use their experience well, and CLG are faster but maybe not so bulky..perhaps a combination of the 2 teams may present a challenge for a struggling div 1 res team?

only oipinions though..just like a******s..everyone has one

I look at plympton at the moment, they've got 2 or 3 blokes at that high level of pace, but that div 2res side had 10 blokes at that level...

Correct,it zips around and I beleive the skills are a tad better aswell. The real difference is that you do not get as many big dominating key position players, but that is quickly substituted by the quicker movement of the footy. I had my eyes opened bigtime recently when I played elsewhere for a bit due to work and it may not seem to evident on the side lines, but when you get out there it's a different story....

[valleys07]

Congratulations must go to Rosies, played a harder style of footy than us on the weekend. Prime movers used the ball well and got numbers behind the ball. As for WOS a week is a long time in footy and it showed, back among the pack again but looking forward to the next 6 weeks, getting a few guys back and see if we can sneak in.

Was a good game both teams fought back to take the lead in the last quarter with junior jake giving goal of the year a shake from the boundary in front of the Rosewater faithful to hit the lead once again. Impressive debut for young Motlop with a nice little 5 goal haul, looked good. Kells was great in defence. Big Rusty was impressive as well against some tall timber from WOS, they seem to have talls everywhere including the magoos! Good team effort!!

im glad it was scotty and not shaun who kicked it or else we would never hear the end of it

Good to see your in good form heading into this weekend kellsy. Look forward to venturing west this weekend for some good games of footy. Hang round after for a beer?

[The BulldogLover]

Personally, I think Rosewater, Hope Valley & Elizabeth are just making up the numbers this year. They are good sides, but not great sides, and not good enough to challenge for a Div 4 berth.

Rosewater making up the number`s You idiot.

What a stupid comment PIGDOG. I think on our day we can match it with most sides, the thing is when is our day.... You should no Rosewater m8...

[Mr Beefy]

Personally, I think Rosewater, Hope Valley & Elizabeth are just making up the numbers this year. They are good sides, but not great sides, and not good enough to challenge for a Div 4 berth.

Rosewater making up the number`s You idiot.

What a stupid comment PIGDOG. I think on our day we can match it with most sides, the thing is when is our day.... You should no Rosewater m8...

I think pigdog was quoting possum from a few pages back

[The BulldogLover]

Personally, I think Rosewater, Hope Valley & Elizabeth are just making up the numbers this year. They are good sides, but not great sides, and not good enough to challenge for a Div 4 berth.

Rosewater making up the number`s You idiot.

What a stupid comment PIGDOG. I think on our day we can match it with most sides, the thing is when is our day.... You should no Rosewater m8...

I think pigdog was quoting possum from a few pages back

Your rite Mr Beefy, he did ,thats what happens when you read from the back too the front m8. I didnt think pigdog was that SILLY...

[The BulldogLover]

Good to see a handful of the Rosewater B grade finish the game off well - good image for the club to start sniping in the final 10 minutes when the game was done and dusted... that big peanut that decided to break a blokes nose who is about half the size of him desveres to sit out the rest of the season, if not the rest of next season too

Sorry to hear that. Didn`t get to see the game on the weekend(darn work) not the way rosie`s have been playing in recent years. Will have to ask a few question`s, not the way we want to be seen out there in the general footy community. sorry again

Swervyn i totally agree m89 we had a meeting yesterday and it was known that it wasnt tollerated, we have tried to clean our act up over the last few years. The bloke involved new that he stuffed up and was very remorsefull. IF we make the finals, lets hope we put a better display if we meet again. Congratz to the WOS boys you were just too good on the day and fully deserve the win... Well done once again boys...

[woodublieve12]

lol demonseye..its spreading into div 5!!

Tiger Flu?

thats gold!!! poor tiger though!! lol

[unknown source]

Big call though. Top div 6 sides would not get near top D1r sides and there is no shame in that by the way. I sincerely doubt a top div 5 side would beat them either. D4 there is some good sides and that is where I'd say the standard may be matched up the high end of the ladder. Just the sheer pace they move the ball is far greater than the lower divisions which would expose big gaps. No shame however

you can't prove we wouldnt and i can't prove we could so dont see the point in going on about this..

[unknown source]

people will agree and people will dis-agree so dont see the point in carrying on about a topic that will never be proven wrong or proven right..

why don't you organise a game at the end of the year unknown source?

wish i could mate.. maybe a trial game next year..

[mighty hounds]

Big call though. Top div 6 sides would not get near top D1r sides and there is no shame in that by the way. I sincerely doubt a top div 5 side would beat them either. D4 there is some good sides and that is where I'd say the standard may be matched up the high end of the ladder. Just the sheer pace they move the ball is far greater than the lower divisions which would expose big gaps. No shame however

you can't prove we wouldnt and i can't prove we could so dont see the point in going on about this..

why would you bring up such a stupid point anyway....you guys think your world beaters just coz u havent lost a game? pfft typical

[LaughingKookaburra]

It is an opinion but 99% of people who know anything about the SAAFL will laugh at you for bringing it up. Pultney O.S would not beat a good D1r side and if you think you're a better outfit than them you are seriously kidding your self....

[unknown source]

It is an opinion but 99% of people who know anything about the SAAFL will laugh at you for bringing it up. Pultney O.S would not beat a good D1r side and if you think you're a better outfit than them you are seriously kidding your self....

dont think we are better then them.. like i said you can't prove we can't..

[unknown source]

Big call though. Top div 6 sides would not get near top D1r sides and there is no shame in that by the way. I sincerely doubt a top div 5 side would beat them either. D4 there is some good sides and that is where I'd say the standard may be matched up the high end of the ladder. Just the sheer pace they move the ball is far greater than the lower divisions which would expose big gaps. No shame however

you can't prove we wouldnt and i can't prove we could so dont see the point in going on about this..

why would you bring up such a stupid point anyway....you guys think your world beaters just coz u havent lost a game? pfft typical

dont think we are world beaters, never said that, your putting words in my mouth now..

[Bully]

i think IMO that if a div 5 side or div 6 side with all players , no injuries and them same with the div 1 side, i think it might be a little lop sided result. even if it was a trial game were normally coaches like to play players in diff spots.

If there are people going around thinking a div 5 or div 6 side could complete with the likes of Goodwood saints, or salisbury north etc then they are dreaming. These div 1 teams could play SANFL reserves and not get a flogging.

but im just adding to the convo and i know ppl will comment on my opinion and tell me i dont know anything which i may not. Not going to come on here and say my former team plympton, or Pultney, or Brahma Lodge in Div 6 could match it with a Div 1 side because they wouldnt.

[unknown source]

i think IMO that if a div 5 side or div 6 side with all players , no injuries and them same with the div 1 side, i think it might be a little lop sided result. even if it was a trial game were normally coaches like to play players in diff spots.

If there are people going around thinking a div 5 or div 6 side could complete with the likes of Goodwood saints, or salisbury north etc then they are dreaming. These div 1 teams could play SANFL reserves and not get a flogging.

but im just adding to the convo and i know ppl will comment on my opinion and tell me i dont know anything which i may not. Not going to come on here and say my former team plympton, or Pultney, or Brahma Lodge in Div 6 could match it with a Div 1 side because they wouldnt.

i said div 1R mate.. thats your opinion its fine

[TIRED TIGER]

[quote="S Demon"][quote="zedman"]throwing around..none..well placed to a select few..then yeah..a bit, but nothing that fort knox has to worry about..the murphys dont leave much for anyone else LOL

well atm plympton would be faves at 25/10..smithies and bos equal on 4/1..dont think hv or will challenge yet but to early to know..cant see pulteney worrying anyone..rosies would have to improve with elizabeth to be in the finals

assuming kenilworth are in div 5..i think 20/1 is fair atm for the flag..but i know a few things about next year and our team that others dont yet

plympton 25/10
smithfield 4/1
bos 4/1
wos 12/1
rosewater 12/1
hope valley 15/1
elizabeth 15/1
kenilworth 20/1
ingle farm 25/1
pulteney 33/1[/quote]

Here's your odds that you were talking about...[/quote]
gee zedman wished i took some of that 33/1 on pulteney pre season

[TIRED TIGER]

but in fairness apart from smithfield and pos you were pretty accurate so far